Crypto Currency Thread (Vol.2)

Crypto Currency Thread (Vol.2)

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moonigan

2,146 posts

243 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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PH4555 said:
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LOL. Made my first ever Crypto purchase 2 days ago 1400 VET @ $0.17 and topped up with another 700 when it hit $0.21. I'd like to say I did some research, but it was a pure punt after reading your post. I've been following this and the previous thread from the start and have nearly jumped in a couple of times. Thanks for the kick!

PH4555

746 posts

54 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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moonigan said:
LOL. Made my first ever Crypto purchase 2 days ago 1400 VET @ $0.17 and topped up with another 700 when it hit $0.21. I'd like to say I did some research, but it was a pure punt after reading your post. I've been following this and the previous thread from the start and have nearly jumped in a couple of times. Thanks for the kick!
Christ! Don't listen to me, I've been saying ETH is going to zero for the past couple of months hehe . Even Dogecoin has more use than ETH right now hehe .

EFH189

1,287 posts

43 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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For my sins I just chucked £1k across DOGE, VET and CHZ.

What could possibly go wrong...

fourstardan

4,514 posts

146 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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I bought 1000VET last week and just taken original stake to get some pickled onion monster munch for the trip to the moon biggrin

Question on CGT though, if I've started selling into GBP does this mean I've not got upto the limit until I need to declare it? (I pay full rate on income tax already).

x5x3

2,424 posts

255 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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fourstardan said:
Question on CGT though, if I've started selling into GBP does this mean I've not got upto the limit until I need to declare it? (I pay full rate on income tax already).
Every trade you do, i.e. GBP to VET and every pair swap you do (e.g. VET to USDC etc) count as a CGT event so you need to keep careful records of amounts and dates. Everyone has a CGT personal allowance (£12,300 again this tax year) which is the amount of profit you are allowed to make before you need to report the gain on your annual tax return and potentially pay tax.

Here is the link for full details - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tax-on-...


Bloxxcreative

526 posts

47 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Made a little on DOGE. Lost a bit of it on XRP. Rolling the dice on TRX and TRIO. Ahh memories of 2017.

fourstardan

4,514 posts

146 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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x5x3 said:
Every trade you do, i.e. GBP to VET and every pair swap you do (e.g. VET to USDC etc) count as a CGT event so you need to keep careful records of amounts and dates. Everyone has a CGT personal allowance (£12,300 again this tax year) which is the amount of profit you are allowed to make before you need to report the gain on your annual tax return and potentially pay tax.

Here is the link for full details - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tax-on-...
Thanks...if I make 12k I'll be satisfied lol

Greshamst

2,098 posts

122 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Whoever tipped SIA earlier in the week... thanks wink

fourstardan

4,514 posts

146 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Greshamst said:
Whoever tipped SIA earlier in the week... thanks wink
Does seem like a good option, probably too late now.

g4ry13

17,315 posts

257 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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fourstardan said:
Greshamst said:
Whoever tipped SIA earlier in the week... thanks wink
Does seem like a good option, probably too late now.
I was looking at that last night - didn't realise Kraken had it on the exchange. Looked rather toppy and scary to buy now!

I sold some more DASH last night and put a little into Filecoin. QTUM is still doing well - i may get some more if it dips.

g4ry13

17,315 posts

257 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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jammy-git said:
g4ry13 said:
jammy-git said:
The Spruce Goose said:
1k GDP of Doge bought at Xmas 2020 is worth 130k now... less than 4 months that must be a record.
Will it ever hit $1? Or $10? Or $100....
A $1 DOGE would put it at a $130 billion market cap. The supply of coins is growing too so that market cap would be higher if it maintained $1.

$10 DOGE = $1 trillion market cap. The same as what Bitcoin is sitting at currently.

I would say that it's very fanciful thinking that it will even get to $10. Maybe i'm very wrong but I feel common sense would kick in at some point.
Why does the market cap matter?
Market cap = supply x price

It's basic supply and demand economics.

When the supply of coins is increasing, the price of the coin should go down to meet it. As a result, you need demand (buying) to be greater than the effects of the increasing supply just to maintain the price level.

When there is a large market cap, it will require more money to move the market (either up or down). Whereas a market which is much smaller in size can be easier to move around.

One of the issues with DOGE is that there is a large supply of them and they are growing at an unpredictable rate. It's going to take a lot of money in future to maintain price at silly levels.




Greshamst

2,098 posts

122 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
Yep, there's a lot of red today.


Where are you getting that heat map from?

TheBinarySheep

1,185 posts

53 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Greshamst said:
Where are you getting that heat map from?
https://coin360.com/

DeanR32

1,840 posts

185 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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For you guys using Binance, I'm finding it complicated to pull my peanuts out of a market. Would I be better to trade coins for BNB to move money around, then trade it back into another coin?

TheBinarySheep

1,185 posts

53 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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DeanR32 said:
For you guys using Binance, I'm finding it complicated to pull my peanuts out of a market. Would I be better to trade coins for BNB to move money around, then trade it back into another coin?
I've only been doing this for a couple of weeks, but I trade my coins for USDT (Tether), and then buy new coins with that.

g4ry13

17,315 posts

257 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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DOT eek

Glad I bought a few extra over the week. This is the time when I look at a giant spike and think I could sell and buy back lower. In the past i've messed up doing it and maybe it's easier to hold.

I'm still staking all of my DOT so getting something in return for holding through the volatility.

Litecoin is getting close to pre-Charlie Lee dump levels.


jammy-git

29,778 posts

214 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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g4ry13 said:
jammy-git said:
g4ry13 said:
jammy-git said:
The Spruce Goose said:
1k GDP of Doge bought at Xmas 2020 is worth 130k now... less than 4 months that must be a record.
Will it ever hit $1? Or $10? Or $100....
A $1 DOGE would put it at a $130 billion market cap. The supply of coins is growing too so that market cap would be higher if it maintained $1.

$10 DOGE = $1 trillion market cap. The same as what Bitcoin is sitting at currently.

I would say that it's very fanciful thinking that it will even get to $10. Maybe i'm very wrong but I feel common sense would kick in at some point.
Why does the market cap matter?
Market cap = supply x price

It's basic supply and demand economics.

When the supply of coins is increasing, the price of the coin should go down to meet it. As a result, you need demand (buying) to be greater than the effects of the increasing supply just to maintain the price level.

When there is a large market cap, it will require more money to move the market (either up or down). Whereas a market which is much smaller in size can be easier to move around.

One of the issues with DOGE is that there is a large supply of them and they are growing at an unpredictable rate. It's going to take a lot of money in future to maintain price at silly levels.
I feel like you're applying stock market economics to crypto, which I don't think works.

With the stock market, the market cap is (or used to be) a reasonable representation of the company value - it's profits, prospects, assets, employees, etc. With most of the crypto coins, they are essentially valueless, they serve very little function and have no use case. They have value ONLY because someone is willing to pay X amount for them, in the hope that they will rise in value in the future.

This means the market cap of crypto is a function of the last sale price. You say that when a market cap is large it takes more to move the price, but that's the tail wagging the dog.

To go back to the original point, the market cap has no effect on limiting the price increase or decrease of a coin. If more and more people start to think a $1 DOGE is possible they'll be willing to pay $0.7 for them. If enough people think $10 is possible, they'll be wiling to pay $7. The value of any crypto is driven entirely by sentiment, and it will be until there is an actual real world use for any of them.

essayer

9,139 posts

196 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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What’s the score with these Discord “pump” groups?

“Next pump announced 9pm GMT April 21st”

Tell people one thing to boost the coin having already stocked up on it previously?

e.g. https://discord.gg/S4N2xjJc67

PH4555

746 posts

54 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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essayer said:
What’s the score with these Discord “pump” groups?

“Next pump announced 9pm GMT April 21st”

Tell people one thing to boost the coin having already stocked up on it previously?

e.g. https://discord.gg/S4N2xjJc67
It's been going on since the dawn of time. Hence why you don't buy big green dildos (candles) on the trading view unless you enjoy losing all your money. hehe

fourstardan

4,514 posts

146 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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PH4555 said:
It's been going on since the dawn of time. Hence why you don't buy big green dildos (candles) on the trading view unless you enjoy losing all your money. hehe
Saw a load of tweets about this and joined the group.