Tax on BTL

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So

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224 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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drainbrain said:
Want a fag packet method?

Take the gross achievable rent . R

Multiply by 65% . R x 65%

(note: 65% is for realists. Optimists use 70% and pessimists use 60%)

Subtract the mortgage cost . R x 65% - M

= Gross income for tax purposes.

So R x 65% - M - T = yours to spend.

Over a period of 5-10 years that may be surprisingly accurate.

Edited by drainbrain on Thursday 17th August 16:30
I predict that it will prove inaccurate over the next 5 years, if he holds the property personally.



drainbrain

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Thursday 17th August 2017
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So said:
I predict that it will prove inaccurate over the next 5 years, if he holds the property personally.
Y?

So

26,628 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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drainbrain said:
So said:
I predict that it will prove inaccurate over the next 5 years, if he holds the property personally.
Y?
Due to the mortgage interest relief changes. It buggers up your model.

drainbrain

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Thursday 17th August 2017
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So said:
Due to the mortgage interest relief changes. It buggers up your model.
Nope. It doesn't. The only thing that impacts on the model is a substantial divergence from the 60/65/70% figure.

So

26,628 posts

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Thursday 17th August 2017
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drainbrain said:
So said:
Due to the mortgage interest relief changes. It buggers up your model.
Nope. It doesn't. The only thing that impacts on the model is a substantial divergence from the 60/65/70% figure.
Currently it is R x 65% - M - T = yours to spend.

By 2020 it will be:R x 65% - T + 20%M = yours to spend.

drainbrain

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Thursday 17th August 2017
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the "T" or "M" amounts may change (as may the residual nett) but that doesn't affect the model (because it isn't modelled on "T" and/or "M" figures and the 60/65/70% isn't impacted on by changes to mortgage interest relief).


liner33

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204 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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supercommuter said:
Thanks, very helpful. As you say, I am currently getting more than that in funds.

Maybe in the future!
If you are getting 7% plus from your funds EVERY year then stick with them

So

26,628 posts

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Thursday 17th August 2017
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drainbrain said:
the "T" or "M" amounts may change (as may the residual nett) but that doesn't affect the model (because it isn't modelled on "T" and/or "M" figures and the 60/65/70% isn't impacted on by changes to mortgage interest relief).
Hmmm, not sure I would agree with you. But let's remain friends and agree that the 65% part is very useful indeed. wink

drainbrain

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Thursday 17th August 2017
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So said:
Hmmm, not sure I would agree with you. But let's remain friends and agree that the 65% part is very useful indeed. wink
I think in typical fashion I've tried to reduce something to a basic simplicity and really only succeeded in over-complicating it smile