Pendragon Shares under 1 1/2p! How will this play out?

Pendragon Shares under 1 1/2p! How will this play out?

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sniff diesel

13,107 posts

214 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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Roop said:
Some bloody cheap new cars outside too. £16k for a brand new non-poverty spec Mondeo. Amazing value.
Is it?

LHDisbest

17,001 posts

189 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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sniff diesel said:
Roop said:
Some bloody cheap new cars outside too. £16k for a brand new non-poverty spec Mondeo. Amazing value.
Is it?
£16.5k was buying 2.0 TDCI Zetec Mondeo a couple of months ago. Not sure where they are at now.

750turbo

6,164 posts

226 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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The groups that have the money, or at least access to the money, will be sitting around ready to pounce, sadly that's the motor trade. They will then be able to see through the downturn, and will be fighting fit in 6/9/12/15/18/21/24.. etc months time. (Please make it sooner rather than later though.)

Roop

6,012 posts

286 months

Saturday 20th December 2008
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sniff diesel said:
Roop said:
Some bloody cheap new cars outside too. £16k for a brand new non-poverty spec Mondeo. Amazing value.
Is it?
I thought so. Looked like a lot of car for your money. Don't know the spec but it was an estate one sat on the big wheels, brand new unregistered.

PPPPPP

1,140 posts

233 months

Saturday 20th December 2008
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750turbo said:
The groups that have the money, or at least access to the money, will be sitting around ready to pounce, sadly that's the motor trade. They will then be able to see through the downturn, and will be fighting fit in 6/9/12/15/18/21/24.. etc months time. (Please make it sooner rather than later though.)
This is what a Banker thinks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7793035.stm

herewego

8,814 posts

215 months

Saturday 20th December 2008
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It's a case of when it rains it pours I suppose. Hard to adjust to a downturn in buyers, but impossible when the remaining buyers expect you to slash prices as well. They shouldn't have debts though should they, I mean they've had ten prosperous years to build up a cash pile.

u13rr1

527 posts

203 months

Saturday 20th December 2008
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Roop said:
sniff diesel said:
Roop said:
Some bloody cheap new cars outside too. £16k for a brand new non-poverty spec Mondeo. Amazing value.
Is it?
I thought so. Looked like a lot of car for your money. Don't know the spec but it was an estate one sat on the big wheels, brand new unregistered.
"Amazing value" to the insane people who buy brand new, particularly volume stuff. £16k buys you just about any used car you would ever want. For example for £16k you can get a good, late E39 M5 with warranty.

ffelan

637 posts

255 months

Saturday 20th December 2008
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u13rr1 said:
"Amazing value" to the insane people who buy brand new, particularly volume stuff. £16k buys you just about any used car you would ever want. For example for £16k you can get a good, late E39 M5 with warranty.
in your opinion


Roop

6,012 posts

286 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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u13rr1 said:
Roop said:
sniff diesel said:
Roop said:
Some bloody cheap new cars outside too. £16k for a brand new non-poverty spec Mondeo. Amazing value.
Is it?
I thought so. Looked like a lot of car for your money. Don't know the spec but it was an estate one sat on the big wheels, brand new unregistered.
"Amazing value" to the insane people who buy brand new, particularly volume stuff. £16k buys you just about any used car you would ever want. For example for £16k you can get a good, late E39 M5 with warranty.
Quite, and in this context my old Sierra represents appalling value for money. The point I was making was that the Mondeo seemed like a lot for your money if you're in the market for a new car.

POORCARDEALER

8,528 posts

243 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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There was huge volumes of shares traded towards close of play Friday which makes me wonder if someone knows something we dont.

Mikey_W

4,984 posts

228 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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POORCARDEALER said:
There was huge volumes of shares traded towards close of play Friday which makes me wonder if someone knows something we dont.
YHM...

markmullen

15,877 posts

236 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Well I've taken a small punt on Pendragon, a risky one I know but worth a try at Christmas

LHDisbest

17,001 posts

189 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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markmullen said:
Well I've taken a small punt on Pendragon, a risky one I know but worth a try at Christmas
Do i need to make some calls? Is there something a-happening? smile

haroon_19

4 posts

188 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Anyone heard anything new? Thinking of taking a risk and buying a few shares, what does everyone think?

jamiebae

6,245 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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haroon_19 said:
Anyone heard anything new? Thinking of taking a risk and buying a few shares, what does everyone think?
I think the share price is being propped up by people 'taking a punt' but really unless the economic situation changes very quickly there's no way forward for the business without it going into administration and losing some of the debt.

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

244 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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cccscotland said:
haworthlloyd1 said:
good question but i'm sure you already know the answer wink
Ish. If the banks let them go, then there will be even more carnage. But, will the banks let this happen? Are there any suitors who may rescue bits of it? If it did happen, how quickly would the cars get sent off to auction?

I'm tempted to buy a DB9, but I note that Stratstones have 30 of them. If these get sent to auction in the next 6 months I suspect I'd regret it if I'd bought one now!
Wait for the shops to start closing down and windows on the high street being boarded up, wait for the 06 lease cars to appear on the market, wait for a few more obvious indicators and then buy your car for sub £30k.

The market is being propped up by the last of the big spenders who's cash and credit lines are not going to be replaced. Those with real money (ie money they have saved from working;)) are already sitting tight. All these beautiful, asperational cars have much further to go because the demand for them over the last 8 years has been artificially high due to cheap finance and a very bouyant employment market. Both of which have changed, but the impact hasn't even begun to filter through fully.

Firms like Stratstones are the classic weak points. Originally, a very well run Mayfair outlet, servicing a small group of cash buyers they have expanded the brand across the UK using cheap finance and bloated sales from people who's only wealth was from equity release and credit cards. Massive contraction is needed in order to survive, but they should have done this by now, so you kind of have to think that their main route to downsizing is likely to be via the administrators frown

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

244 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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haroon_19 said:
Anyone heard anything new? Thinking of taking a risk and buying a few shares, what does everyone think?
Try and sell some firstbiggrin

Phone you broker and ask them to get a quote for selling a modest block. I doubt he will even bother calling the market before informing you that there are no buyers.

spaximus

4,246 posts

255 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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From my understanding they are being proped up by the banks who pendragon are into big time, If the banks call time they will get sod all back as the stock value both new and used is well down, the parts business is now not so rosey as Ford are distributing direct and another part of the business is in computers to dealerships and no one is buying them. I wouldn't touch them at all.

erolb

506 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Talking to an ex-employee he said a lot of the Pendragon employees in the company share scheme are livid as they are contracted to buy X amount of shares and are having to pay around 70p per share, rather than the ultra-low rate that they are now.

But then again he is a car sales man and could be pulling my p-lonker.

That is all.

northandy

3,496 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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LHDisbest said:
evenflow said:
LHDisbest said:
I've got 2000 PDG.L shares. Now worth bugger all. irked
£28 biggrin
Thanks. grumpy

Makes me feel so much better.

Which is better gas mark 5 or 6 when you put your head in the oven?wink
Not quite, then theres yer dealing fee of a £10 (ish)...

Make that £18