Initiative Q- new payment system, any thoughts?

Initiative Q- new payment system, any thoughts?

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cw2k

383 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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5 fresh invites waiting for anyone who wants them:

https://initiativeq.com/invite/SbBZGby67

They only want a name and email at this stage, no payment required so what's the harm? May as well get in there early if it ever amounts to anything. People wrote off Bitcoin 10 years ago and look how that exploded. You never know!

limpsfield

5,896 posts

255 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Andy20vt said:
People wrote off Bitcoin 10 years ago and look how that exploded.
Many stupid people lost money!

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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limpsfield said:
Andy20vt said:
People wrote off Bitcoin 10 years ago and look how that exploded.
Many stupid people lost money!
But also many people, both stupid and clever made a lot of money. Friend of mine who was an early adopter exited last year with a six figure sum that cost him a few thousand pounds. Equally people piling in late at the start of this year have probably lost over 1/2 their investment.

Condi

17,356 posts

173 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Supersam83 said:
Initiative Q is an attempt by ex-PayPal guys to create a new payment system instead of credit cards that were designed in the 1950s. The system uses its own currency, the Q, and to get people to start using the system once it's ready they are allocating Qs for free to people that sign up now (the amount drops as more people join - so better to join early). Signing up is free and they only ask for your name and an email address. There's nothing to lose but if this payment system becomes a world leading payment method your Qs can be worth a lot. If you missed getting bitcoin seven years ago, you wouldn't want to miss this.

Here is my invite link: https://initiativeq.com/invite/BGQ2HVvhm

This link will stop working once I’m out of invites. Let me know after you registered, because I need to verify you on my end.

6 slots left if anybody wants in...

I'll verify you as soon as you join smile
fk me, have you swallowed the rod as well as the bait??

How much are you being paid to market this crap?

EddieSteadyGo

12,223 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Condi said:
fk me, have you swallowed the rod as well as the bait??

How much are you being paid to market this crap?
I love the way they write the same copy in their posts....

"Initiative Q is an attempt by ex-PayPal guys to create a new payment system instead of credit cards that were designed in the 1950s. The system uses its own currency, the Q...blah blah...free money.... blah blah...get rich quick... blah"


Condi

17,356 posts

173 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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So, to everyone who believes in the marketing material, or has thought about it.....

If 'everyone' is going to be using the payment system, then the Q's must be readily available to everyone - so why would they be expensive? Its in the operators interest to make them as low value as possible, as that means it has low barriers to entry.

If people are going to have to buy these Q's, and their value is going to fluctuate, then what about the risk of the Q's changing in value between buying them, and spending them? If the price of Q's goes down by 10%, then you've lost 10% of your money when you convert back to Pounds.

What are the benefits over credit cards, or PayPal? We have a system which works in nearly every single shop in the UK, costs me nothing, and I can use online to buy things from anywhere in the world. Not only that, but my bank protects me from fraud and will cover my losses in case the goods dont turn up. What more can you ask for?

What differentiates Q from any other of the hundreds of crypto currencies which have been released in the last 5 years?

Behemoth

2,105 posts

133 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Condi said:
What differentiates Q from any other of the hundreds of crypto currencies which have been released in the last 5 years?
It is not a cryptocurrency

EddieSteadyGo

12,223 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Condi said:
What differentiates Q from any other of the hundreds of crypto currencies which have been released in the last 5 years?
Perhaps because it was created by "ex-PayPal guys"....

As you say, the key problem is that the "Q" people deliberately conflate "payment systems" with "currencies".

So they talk about "today's payment systems" being "old and outdated, which means we’re "all bearing unnecessary costs".

So their solution is a create a completely new currency. That they own. Yep... makes perfect sense rolleyes

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Andy20vt said:
5 fresh invites waiting for anyone who wants them:

https://initiativeq.com/invite/SbBZGby67

They only want a name and email at this stage, no payment required so what's the harm? May as well get in there early if it ever amounts to anything. People wrote off Bitcoin 10 years ago and look how that exploded. You never know!
https://initiativeq.com/invite/SbBZGby67

Only 2 x invites left now if anyone wants to go for it? May never come to anything, but then again it might just do. In it to win it I guess?

Condi

17,356 posts

173 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Behemoth said:
Condi said:
What differentiates Q from any other of the hundreds of crypto currencies which have been released in the last 5 years?
It is not a cryptocurrency
Not sure I agree. Its not a blockchain database, but it is basically a virtual-currency.

You need to acquire (buy) Q's.
1 Q has a value, which can go up or down.
You trade/swop these Q's for goods.
Q's then need converting back into Sterling to spend elsewhere.




This is another solution looking for a problem. And someone is hoping to get rich off the back of it.


Behemoth

2,105 posts

133 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Condi said:
Not sure I agree. Its not a blockchain database, but it is basically a virtual-currency.

You need to acquire (buy) Q's.
1 Q has a value, which can go up or down.
You trade/swop these Q's for goods.
Q's then need converting back into Sterling to spend elsewhere.




This is another solution looking for a problem. And someone is hoping to get rich off the back of it.
By definition, cryptocurrency needs to employ cryptography. Usually the cryptography secures the transactions, controls the creation of new units, verifies transfers etc.

This MLM idea is a simple privately controlled token. It's cleverly dressed with familiar buzzwords to take advantage of the bandwagon.

roadsmash

2,623 posts

72 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Condi said:
Behemoth said:
Condi said:
What differentiates Q from any other of the hundreds of crypto currencies which have been released in the last 5 years?
It is not a cryptocurrency
Not sure I agree. Its not a blockchain database, but it is basically a virtual-currency.

You need to acquire (buy) Q's.
1 Q has a value, which can go up or down.
You trade/swop these Q's for goods.
Q's then need converting back into Sterling to spend elsewhere.




This is another solution looking for a problem. And someone is hoping to get rich off the back of it.
Yeah I’d keep Googling if I were you.

He’s right, you’re wrong, it’s not a cryptocurrency.

I love your’s and Eddie’s attempts at saving the planet, by stopping “idiots” such as us from joining up to a free experiment that is being made readily available to everyone.

I know your type, it’s evident from your posts; you’re too stubborn to step out of your comfort zone to try something new, but instead of wishing others the best of luck, you try to grind people down and encourage them to stay in a little bubble along with you.

Don’t be jealous that others are willing to give something a try by joining a very low risk experiment

Stop stressing yourself out about what strangers are doing on the internet.

Clearly no one is listening to your expert advice, and are joining up, so just bugger off?

Oh and save the lame reply about how I’m wrong and you’re right, because I’m not going to listen. WE DO NOT CARE if this experiment doesn’t take off, we are just signing up to see what happens.

Here’s some advice, put a little note in your calendar for 2-3 years’ time with a link to this thread and come back and ask us how it went.

Camelot1971

2,708 posts

168 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Condi said:
So, to everyone who believes in the marketing material, or has thought about it.....

If 'everyone' is going to be using the payment system, then the Q's must be readily available to everyone - so why would they be expensive? Its in the operators interest to make them as low value as possible, as that means it has low barriers to entry.

If people are going to have to buy these Q's, and their value is going to fluctuate, then what about the risk of the Q's changing in value between buying them, and spending them? If the price of Q's goes down by 10%, then you've lost 10% of your money when you convert back to Pounds.

What are the benefits over credit cards, or PayPal? We have a system which works in nearly every single shop in the UK, costs me nothing, and I can use online to buy things from anywhere in the world. Not only that, but my bank protects me from fraud and will cover my losses in case the goods dont turn up. What more can you ask for?

What differentiates Q from any other of the hundreds of crypto currencies which have been released in the last 5 years?
This. What's the benefit if I want to use this currency to buy my shopping? I can't see what "problem" it is trying to solve. Even if I want to buy $US I can just use my Revolut card.

EddieSteadyGo

12,223 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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roadsmash said:
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Clearly no one is listening to your expert advice, and are joining up, so just bugger off?
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Look roadsmash, you are clearly a bit gullible. But you seem happy with your decisions, so it's no skin off my nose.

Just because I've posted something you don't like, my suggestion is just relax rather than getting all pseudo-aggressive. After all, you have been a member of the forum relatively speaking for 5 minutes, so if you don't like my posts, I'm afraid it is tough smile

roadsmash

2,623 posts

72 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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EddieSteadyGo said:
roadsmash said:
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Clearly no one is listening to your expert advice, and are joining up, so just bugger off?
...
Look roadsmash, you are clearly a bit gullible. But you seem happy with your decisions, so it's no skin off my nose.

Just because I've posted something you don't like, my suggestion is just relax rather than getting all pseudo-aggressive. After all, you have been a member of the forum relatively speaking for 5 minutes, so if you don't like my posts, I'm afraid it is tough smile
Sorry as mentioned previously will not be taking your expert online scam advice.

Have you managed to read all the catalogues yet?

EddieSteadyGo

12,223 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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roadsmash said:
Sorry as mentioned previously will not be taking your expert online scam advice.

Have you managed to read all the catalogues yet?
Oh dear. Please learn some comprehension skills as I've already explained that point to you. Persist with it if you will, but it makes you look a little slow.

In terms of this "initiative", I'm very clear - you won't make any money, ever, from it. And on a point I think we agree on, we can review in 2-3 years to see who was right smile

roadsmash

2,623 posts

72 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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EddieSteadyGo said:
roadsmash said:
Sorry as mentioned previously will not be taking your expert online scam advice.

Have you managed to read all the catalogues yet?
Oh dear. Please learn some comprehensive skills as I've already explained that point to you. Persist with it if you will, but it makes you look a little slow.

In terms of this "initiative", I'm very clear - you won't make any money, ever, from it. And on a point I think we agree on, we can review in 2-3 years to see who was right smile
Do you mean comprehension skills?

Getting your words in a twist, buying an 85” TV on eBay and receiving a few magazines, and refusing to sign up to a free payment system because the founder might steal your password!!!

Intelligent bloke!

You have lost the plot.

Sigh!

roadsmash

2,623 posts

72 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Oh and he’s gone back and edited it quickly!!!!

Bottled it!

Supersam83

658 posts

147 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Condi said:
Supersam83 said:
Initiative Q is an attempt by ex-PayPal guys to create a new payment system instead of credit cards that were designed in the 1950s. The system uses its own currency, the Q, and to get people to start using the system once it's ready they are allocating Qs for free to people that sign up now (the amount drops as more people join - so better to join early). Signing up is free and they only ask for your name and an email address. There's nothing to lose but if this payment system becomes a world leading payment method your Qs can be worth a lot. If you missed getting bitcoin seven years ago, you wouldn't want to miss this.

Here is my invite link: https://initiativeq.com/invite/BGQ2HVvhm

This link will stop working once I’m out of invites. Let me know after you registered, because I need to verify you on my end.

6 slots left if anybody wants in...

I'll verify you as soon as you join smile
fk me, have you swallowed the rod as well as the bait??

How much are you being paid to market this crap?
4 slots left now... biggrin

https://initiativeq.com/invite/BGQ2HVvhm

Us pistonhead members must have a high percentage of the Q’s pre allocated already biggrin