FTSE100 tracker

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i4got

5,665 posts

80 months

Saturday 28th March 2020
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bhstewie said:
tescorank said:
can you give me better examples, Singapore trackers for instance ?
A global tracker?

I believe we're about 6% of the global economy before this lot kicked off.
VWRL is a reasonable global tracker but do your own research.

BobToc

1,783 posts

119 months

Saturday 28th March 2020
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bhstewie said:
I don't really understand why people go massively heavy on FTSE 100 trackers when there's a whole world out there confused
Completely agree, FTSE 100 has disproportionate concentration in oil & gas, metals and mining and financials. We've just seen the effects of that.

Chris Type R

8,071 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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My portfolio is hovering around break-even today.

Simpo Two

85,833 posts

267 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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bhstewie said:
I don't really understand why people go massively heavy on FTSE 100 trackers when there's a whole world out there confused
I think people view the UK as somehow safer than trusting money overseas. It's also the only figure mentioned on mainstream media which is what most people see. There should be much more financial coverage on the news.

bitchstewie

51,987 posts

212 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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Simpo Two said:
bhstewie said:
I don't really understand why people go massively heavy on FTSE 100 trackers when there's a whole world out there confused
I think people view the UK as somehow safer than trusting money overseas. It's also the only figure mentioned on mainstream media which is what most people see. There should be much more financial coverage on the news.
Maybe.

Odd though as you'd think that if you put a list of FTSE100 and world tracker holdings in front of most people they'd recognise more global brands in the world tracker so it seems odd for it to be a trust thing.

I suspect you're right to a large degree though.

Ari

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19,356 posts

217 months

Saturday 18th April 2020
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Starting to gently ease back up, but still a long way into the red:

You contributed and withdrew £20,355.00
Your investments returned you −£2,520.00
You ended up with £17,835.00
Your rate of return is -22.19%

jonah35

3,940 posts

159 months

Saturday 18th April 2020
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Ari said:
Starting to gently ease back up, but still a long way into the red:

You contributed and withdrew £20,355.00
Your investments returned you ?£2,520.00
You ended up with £17,835.00
Your rate of return is -22.19%
Keep on with the monthlies and think long term

Ari

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19,356 posts

217 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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jonah35 said:
Keep on with the monthlies and think long term
Doing precisely that plus dropping in the odd extra chunk whilst it's cheaper (not to be confused with 'cheap', no one knows).

bitchstewie

51,987 posts

212 months

Sunday 26th April 2020
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HOW THE MAGIC MONEY TREE WORKS

It's quite funny because in spite of having a decent percentage of my "wealth" in Government bonds and TIPS I've always struggled to get my head around how how Government debt and money works.

Simple enough for me to just about understand.

Ari

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19,356 posts

217 months

Wednesday 29th April 2020
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Ari said:
Your investments returned you -£4,192.95

Your rate of return is -37.46%

Well that's... spectacular! boxedin
Your investments returned you −£1,997.29

Your rate of return is -17.51%

Well, that's a little less scary!

daddy cool

4,005 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th April 2020
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Yeah, mine have started picking up too, phew!
And since the new tax year started ive been ploughing some of this years ISA allowance in, and that's already made some decent gains.

Chris Type R

8,071 posts

251 months

Wednesday 29th April 2020
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I was in the fortunate position to be able to add a bit of money to my portfolio during the dip. Despite averaging down my Vanguard fund holding, my pre-covid holdings are still -3.15% down (bought July 2019). By adding a FTSE tracker (which is how I found this thread) and some other FTSE 100/250 shares I'm 3.53% up overall now.

At one point I think I was £3.5k down, so feeling relieved. OP, I'm sure you'll go 'green' soon.

Mezger

372 posts

108 months

Wednesday 29th April 2020
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I see the FTSE 100 is now yielding approx 5.8%, how so, if Banks etc are not paying their dividend? Is it just the higher dividend yield % from the energy majors which make up a large part of the Index?

Ari

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19,356 posts

217 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Almost reduced to £1,000 down

You contributed and withdrew £20,855.00
Your investments returned you −£1,194.20
You ended up with £19,660.80

Your rate of return is -10.24%

Still thinking long term...

Chris Type R

8,071 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Getting there OP.

daddy cool

4,005 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Damn bro, i'd have thought you'd be back to zero by now, as ive eeked back into positive in the last couple of weeks. Overall 3% up, but I have 12 different funds, of which 2 are doing terribly, 6 are almost back to zero, and 4 are doing brilliantly (one of which is my China fund, funnily enough...)

Whats really helped is that since the new financial year ive been buying up stock (so far £8,100 invested since april) and that's worth £8,700 now, so that's helping to offset the losses.

Do think its more luck than judgement, but im no worse off than if i'd just put the money in a basic savings acct, and its still picking up.

Gixer968CS

609 posts

90 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Ari said:
Almost reduced to £1,000 down

You contributed and withdrew £20,855.00
Your investments returned you ?£1,194.20
You ended up with £19,660.80

Your rate of return is -10.24%

Still thinking long term...
Keep investing monthly, you benefit from volatility. It's your friend as you buy fewer shares when the price is high and more when the price is low, thereby lowering the average cost of your shares. Pound Cost Averaging.

Also it's about time not timing. Over the last 30 years a £1000 investment in the FTSE All Share would have returned you £19,000+. But, if you had missed the best performing 30 days, yes 30 days in 30 years, then you would have received only £7,500. So, keep investing monthly and never try to time the market - i.e. pick the best time to enter or leave. Just put your money in and leave it long term!

GT03ROB

13,386 posts

223 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Gixer968CS said:
Also it's about time not timing. Over the last 30 years a £1000 investment in the FTSE All Share would have returned you £19,000+. But, if you had missed the best performing 30 days, yes 30 days in 30 years, then you would have received only £7,500. So, keep investing monthly and never try to time the market - i.e. pick the best time to enter or leave. Just put your money in and leave it long term!
There is a lot in that, but I think its also important to keep an eye on your selections, trim your dogs from time to time.

Chris Type R

8,071 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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daddy cool said:
Do think its more luck than judgement, but im no worse off than if i'd just put the money in a basic savings acct, and its still picking up.
If it's money in to a SIPP and you're a higher rate tax payer it's a hell of a lot better than a savings account. I doubt that'll last long once the Covid bill has to be paid.

Mezger

372 posts

108 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Gixer968CS said:
Keep investing monthly, you benefit from volatility. It's your friend as you buy fewer shares when the price is high and more when the price is low, thereby lowering the average cost of your shares. Pound Cost Averaging.

Also it's about time not timing. Over the last 30 years a £1000 investment in the FTSE All Share would have returned you £19,000+. But, if you had missed the best performing 30 days, yes 30 days in 30 years, then you would have received only £7,500. So, keep investing monthly and never try to time the market - i.e. pick the best time to enter or leave. Just put your money in and leave it long term!
This!