Share tips thread (Vol 2)

Share tips thread (Vol 2)

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Poisson96

2,098 posts

133 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Angpozzuto said:
Guys I'm some opinions, I've been tinkering with trading 212 for a couple of weeks and have had some decent gains but how long should I stay in? Do you guys have a rule of thumb on when it's time to take the money and run?
Depends, do you wish to take a short term win and hope the market suffers or are you willing to try and hold until it returns to almost pre- CoViD levels?

bad company

18,841 posts

268 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Angpozzuto said:
Guys I'm some opinions, I've been tinkering with trading 212 for a couple of weeks and have had some decent gains but how long should I stay in? Do you guys have a rule of thumb on when it's time to take the money and run?
I’m afraid the answer is like when you reach the end of the piece of string.

Angpozzuto

973 posts

111 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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bad company said:
I’m afraid the answer is like when you reach the end of the piece of string.
I figured that was the answer I was going to get, I was hoping someone clever on here would have a great way of getting out at the best time

bad company

18,841 posts

268 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Angpozzuto said:
bad company said:
I’m afraid the answer is like when you reach the end of the piece of string.
I figured that was the answer I was going to get, I was hoping someone clever on here would have a great way of getting out at the best time
One tip I’ve followed when I’ve made a serious killing on a share is to sell enough to recover the outlay. That way you’re only gambling with your profit.

If I knew all the answers I’d be sitting in Grand Bahama right now rather than Essex.

tescorank

2,009 posts

233 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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I deep into carnival, when they went 4000 to 650 they could only go bust or up...I'm thinking 5 years for this to blow over so I'll either be on or a cruise or box or both!

https://www.fool.co.uk/investing/2020/06/05/could-...

LimaDelta

6,600 posts

220 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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tescorank said:
I deep into carnival, when they went 4000 to 650 they could only go bust or up...I'm thinking 5 years for this to blow over so I'll either be on or a cruise or box or both!

https://www.fool.co.uk/investing/2020/06/05/could-...
I've just about doubled my money on CCL now. My 2p is that once people can travel again, they will. Their main costs by far are fuel which is cheaper than ever right now, and the majority of the crew are on a very low salary and rely on commission and tips, so no huge salary bill while they are laid-up. A lot of people (particularly older folk) will perhaps be more aware of the time lost over CV19 and be keen to make the most of what they have left. The cruise ships have been no worse a place to be than anywhere else. Despite the general perception, it is possible to social distance on a cruise ship, even with 3000+ pax. You'd be surprised how quiet they can seem (source- 8 years as crew).

Poisson96

2,098 posts

133 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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I'm in on Carnival, 65% up in a month or so. Still think it's got room to climb if you're happy to sit and wait. I doubt they'll go under (useful if you're on said boat)

delta0

2,367 posts

108 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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I haven’t used my Halifax share dealing account for a while but tried to login today to transfer some funds in and I get the message “ Unfortunately this service is unavailable at the moment.” Anyone else getting this? Just wanted to make sure the account was working ok before I trade on Monday.

Meeten-5dulx

2,633 posts

58 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Angpozzuto said:
bad company said:
I’m afraid the answer is like when you reach the end of the piece of string.
I figured that was the answer I was going to get, I was hoping someone clever on here would have a great way of getting out at the best time
Have you made enough on your trades?
Ther is no set number or percentage which screams “eject”
It depends on the shares, the price, the market sentiment and your appetite for risk. None of which can be modelled simultaneously.

If you like the thrill of short term punts , use your gains to continue. If you are looking for a steady, more structured portfolio, Monday is the time to stop.

Either way, good luck. We are in unusual times so bravo for making a quick buck. Chalk it down to experience... its not going to be around forever.

troika

1,878 posts

153 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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bmwmike said:
Why are folks selling up? US unemployment dropping, sterling flying.
The US jobs figures are nonsense. People are not back at work and won’t be.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/28/how-businesses-and...

bad company

18,841 posts

268 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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delta0 said:
I haven’t used my Halifax share dealing account for a while but tried to login today to transfer some funds in and I get the message “ Unfortunately this service is unavailable at the moment.” Anyone else getting this? Just wanted to make sure the account was working ok before I trade on Monday.
Halifax is working just fine for me this evening.

Funny username

1,496 posts

177 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Poisson96 said:
I'm in on Carnival, 65% up in a month or so. Still think it's got room to climb if you're happy to sit and wait. I doubt they'll go under (useful if you're on said boat)
I bought £1500 at 596, as a punt!

I've never 2x bagged on a a FTSE share, and genuinely think it'll 3x bag.

Hobo

5,781 posts

248 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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I also bought Carnival, but also plenty of others in a similar position (ie FTSE companies that lost over 50% of thier over between the 18th Feb & 16th March).

My basis was they cant all be allowed to go to the wall for obvious reasons, and at present the financial backing to these types of companies is massive.

As such, whilst they 'may' not get back to previous highs, many will certainly recover. And have.

tescorank

2,009 posts

233 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Funny username said:
I bought £1500 at 596, as a punt!

I've never 2x bagged on a a FTSE share, and genuinely think it'll 3x bag.
You could have eventually 7x but may take 4-5 years and of course as a shareholder you get a free 250 USD drinks package on any cruise you take.

Edited by tescorank on Sunday 7th June 10:08

bad company

18,841 posts

268 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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tescorank said:
You could have eventually 7x but may take 4-5 years and of course as a shareholder you get a free 250 USD drinks package on any cruise you take.

Edited by tescorank on Sunday 7th June 10:08
It’s not a drinks package. If you hold 100 Carnival shares you get a $250 credit to spend on whatever you want. We cruise with Seabourn which is part of the Carnival group and the drinks are all inclusive.

Hobo

5,781 posts

248 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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If people are interested in shares of large companies which still have a decent way to recovery then the below is a list of companies, thier ticker reference, and the amount they have to go up from closing price on Friday 5th June 2020, to get back to thier (pre Covid drop) price of the 18th February 2020;

Capita, CPI, 224.34%
Carnival, CCL, 117.67%
Provident Financial, PFG, 108.46%
Jet2, DTG, 93.11%
Cineworld, CINE, 91.63%
Rolls Royce, RR, 89.66%
Easyjet, EZJ, 67.41%
Boeing, BOE, 63.74%
Lloyds, LLOY, 60.02%
General Electric, GEC, 59.95%
Barratts, BDEV, 58.2%
Micro Focus, MCRO, 52.62%
Martsons, 52.01%
Taylor Wimpey, TW., 43.68%
WPP, WPP, 39.02%
Barclays, BARC, 36.67%
Royal Shell, RDSB, 35.82%
AIG, AIG, 34.79%
Citi Group, C, 31.8%
Live Nation Entertainment, LYV, 30.14%
Persimmon, PSN, 27.83%
BP, BP, 27.25%
Cracker Barrel Old Co, CBRL, 25.81%
Service Corp, SCI, 23.57%
JP Morgan, JPM, 21.95%
Smiths Group, SMIN, 20.84%
Allianz, ALV, 20.03%

Most of these have significantly already recovered, but as you can see some still have a chunk yet to 'possibly' do. I tried to stick to large companies i didnt think would fail, and those that paid decent divident pre Covid, so the option to buy cheap and make decent returns long term. They are all generally companies whose share price has tended to steadily increase over the past 5 years.

DomBertone

121 posts

166 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Thanks for those, I might have to have a closer look at Marstons drink

fellatthefirst

587 posts

157 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Hobo said:
If people are interested in shares of large companies which still have a decent way to recovery then the below is a list of companies, thier ticker reference, and the amount they have to go up from closing price on Friday 5th June 2020, to get back to thier (pre Covid drop) price of the 18th February 2020;

Capita, CPI, 224.34%
Carnival, CCL, 117.67%
Provident Financial, PFG, 108.46%
Jet2, DTG, 93.11%
Cineworld, CINE, 91.63%
Rolls Royce, RR, 89.66%
Easyjet, EZJ, 67.41%
Boeing, BOE, 63.74%
Lloyds, LLOY, 60.02%
General Electric, GEC, 59.95%
Barratts, BDEV, 58.2%
Micro Focus, MCRO, 52.62%
Martsons, 52.01%
Taylor Wimpey, TW., 43.68%
WPP, WPP, 39.02%
Barclays, BARC, 36.67%
Royal Shell, RDSB, 35.82%
AIG, AIG, 34.79%
Citi Group, C, 31.8%
Live Nation Entertainment, LYV, 30.14%
Persimmon, PSN, 27.83%
BP, BP, 27.25%
Cracker Barrel Old Co, CBRL, 25.81%
Service Corp, SCI, 23.57%
JP Morgan, JPM, 21.95%
Smiths Group, SMIN, 20.84%
Allianz, ALV, 20.03%

Most of these have significantly already recovered, but as you can see some still have a chunk yet to 'possibly' do. I tried to stick to large companies i didnt think would fail, and those that paid decent divident pre Covid, so the option to buy cheap and make decent returns long term. They are all generally companies whose share price has tended to steadily increase over the past 5 years.
Thanks for that information! Very helpful...i already have a few of those and have made some great returns in the last couple of weeks. Definitely great for long term holds without leverage.

K12beano

20,854 posts

277 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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fellatthefirst said:
Hobo said:
If people are interested in shares of large companies which still have a decent way to recovery then the below is a list of companies, thier ticker reference, and the amount they have to go up from closing price on Friday 5th June 2020, to get back to thier (pre Covid drop) price of the 18th February 2020;

Capita, CPI, 224.34%
Carnival, CCL, 117.67%
Provident Financial, PFG, 108.46%
Jet2, DTG, 93.11%
Cineworld, CINE, 91.63%
Rolls Royce, RR, 89.66%
Easyjet, EZJ, 67.41%
Boeing, BOE, 63.74%
Lloyds, LLOY, 60.02%
General Electric, GEC, 59.95%
Barratts, BDEV, 58.2%
Micro Focus, MCRO, 52.62%
Martsons, 52.01%
Taylor Wimpey, TW., 43.68%
WPP, WPP, 39.02%
Barclays, BARC, 36.67%
Royal Shell, RDSB, 35.82%
AIG, AIG, 34.79%
Citi Group, C, 31.8%
Live Nation Entertainment, LYV, 30.14%
Persimmon, PSN, 27.83%
BP, BP, 27.25%
Cracker Barrel Old Co, CBRL, 25.81%
Service Corp, SCI, 23.57%
JP Morgan, JPM, 21.95%
Smiths Group, SMIN, 20.84%
Allianz, ALV, 20.03%

Most of these have significantly already recovered, but as you can see some still have a chunk yet to 'possibly' do. I tried to stick to large companies i didnt think would fail, and those that paid decent divident pre Covid, so the option to buy cheap and make decent returns long term. They are all generally companies whose share price has tended to steadily increase over the past 5 years.
Thanks for that information! Very helpful...i already have a few of those and have made some great returns in the last couple of weeks. Definitely great for long term holds without leverage.
Picked out one of those already...RDSB....

....but...wow!....look at Crapita!!!! eek

Luke.

11,038 posts

252 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Capita must be worth a punt surely?