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twinturboz

1,278 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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marky1 said:
Just for anyone that was following this, has moved back a bit, could take the equivalent of 100 ticks in FTSE.

Trade entry Short S&P at 1871.5, Long FTSE 6498.5

S&P now 1852, FTSE 6520.
Interesting trade, what's your target to close the short on S&P?

marky1

1,047 posts

198 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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twinturboz said:
Interesting trade, what's your target to close the short on S&P?
I'm out, it was a spread between the two markets so I exited both at same time.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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I have a vested interest but will mention this anyway.

I hace had 3 people who I know ask me if I know anything about QFI in the last week.

One of them knows some of those involved.

All of them are very excited about the prospects for the next 3 months and the coming year.

No hard facts, only the the mutterings you can all find on line to go on, but it is odd that this happened in the last week when no one has spoken to me about the company at all other than in this topic until then.

twinturboz

1,278 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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marky1 said:
I'm out, it was a spread between the two markets so I exited both at same time.
Cool, was going to say from my experience usually the two roughly correlate in the same direction but haven't looked into it with enough detail to see if theres a pattern thats tradable like you mentioned.

Having a short on the S&P 500 might not be the worst idea right now, Im looking for confirmation before I get short though, it's in a place where could bounce or fall much lower imo.

marky1

1,047 posts

198 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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twinturboz said:
Cool, was going to say from my experience usually the two roughly correlate in the same direction but haven't looked into it with enough detail to see if theres a pattern thats tradable like you mentioned.

Having a short on the S&P 500 might not be the worst idea right now, Im looking for confirmation before I get short though, it's in a place where could bounce or fall much lower imo.
You can get quite significant divergence at times. If it's short term divergence, retraces are interesting. The way I chart it(on futures contracts) using equalised tick values it moved from -550 to -1000 over 20 trading days. The average yearly range charting the same way is probably circ 1000 ticks. These things are a punt as you know but obviously there are ways to vastly improve the odds in your favour, especially if you can be patient on the entry.

trashbat

6,007 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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CRND might be interesting today. Just been given some money, which historically has meant silly increases. No guarantees though.

DSLiverpool

14,836 posts

204 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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I think today the brokers have realised its nearly month end and quarter end and year end and we will see a boom climb this week, it was possibly a artificial drop created to make some extra value? I am convinced its all rigged as patterns normally show - cynical? yes 100% but I would appreciate a climb for the next few days.

Condi

17,417 posts

173 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
I think today the brokers have realised its nearly month end and quarter end and year end and we will see a boom climb this week, it was possibly a artificial drop created to make some extra value? I am convinced its all rigged as patterns normally show - cynical? yes 100% but I would appreciate a climb for the next few days.
So they would sell positions, either at a profit or loss, only to buy those positions back and then have to sell them again to square up before year end? Even if they didnt close them, they've still exited then re-entered their positions to create an appearance of extra value?

That makes no sense, you'll lose on the bid/offer spread and also on the brokerage fees.

CRB14

1,493 posts

154 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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Some big movements this morning.

I added some LLOY shares at 75p (5% down so far) and RSA are down a hefty 11%.

Skyedriver

18,097 posts

284 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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Couldn't take anymore pain
Offloaded
TAN
ALO
MARL

yesterday

2 of them up today.....

K12beano

20,854 posts

277 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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CRB14 said:
....RSA are down a hefty 11%.
They're getting to be more volatile than AIM shares! hehe

Last time they took a dive I managed to catch some and made £100 on the bounce back. I might not try that trick too many times.....sooner or later it won't work!!!!

K12beano

20,854 posts

277 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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PS - strong week for Inmarsat (even if their publicity is basically for the wrong reasons frown )

CRB14

1,493 posts

154 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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K12beano said:
hey're getting to be more volatile than AIM shares! hehe

Last time they took a dive I managed to catch some and made £100 on the bounce back. I might not try that trick too many times.....sooner or later it won't work!!!!
I bought in when they crashed a last time and made a very quick 16% or so.

I've been toying with the idea of trading RSA and RMG on the rises and falls. Risky though.

twinturboz

1,278 posts

180 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
I think today the brokers have realised its nearly month end and quarter end and year end and we will see a boom climb this week, it was possibly a artificial drop created to make some extra value? I am convinced its all rigged as patterns normally show - cynical? yes 100% but I would appreciate a climb for the next few days.
If were just talking pure theories then I'll take the opposite view, the rise from the Jan/Feb lows was engineered to get the smart money out of the market, and if anything the market is being help up till the end of the quarter. But opinions don't count for anything in the markets, so we will just have to see.

Not really following what's going on with the Uk market but on the US side the indicies are not following the individual stocks that were leading the market previously. When the leading stocks start to buckle while the rest of the market continues marching up its usually a warning sign that the latter stages of the rally are close.

vescaegg

25,849 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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QPP had a nice little lift this afternoon. Halved my losses on it thank you very much hehe

andrewh

458 posts

261 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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Topped up (qpp) just before the bounce, good article in the investors chronicle, hopefully left the 33-34 days for good.

Shnozz

27,639 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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andrewh said:
Topped up (qpp) just before the bounce, good article in the investors chronicle, hopefully left the 33-34 days for good.
Have you got a link? Google throws up the last IC article on 4th Feb so I assume you are talking more recent.

whoami

13,151 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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Shnozz said:
Have you got a link? Google throws up the last IC article on 4th Feb so I assume you are talking more recent.
This one?

https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/2014/03/27/sh...

CRB14

1,493 posts

154 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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vescaegg said:
QPP had a nice little lift this afternoon. Halved my losses on it thank you very much hehe
I feel tomorrow will be even better. A few of my shares had a 3pm rally. I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning now.

vescaegg

25,849 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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CRB14 said:
I feel tomorrow will be even better. A few of my shares had a 3pm rally. I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning now.
Me too now. The last week or so was a bit confusing! Out of interest what's your average price paid? Unfortunately I was late to the party and its. 37.7 so still a way to go for me.
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