Share tips thread (Vol 2)

[g4ry13]

jammy-git said:

NelsonM3 said:

bad company said:

I’m glad I got out of CINE at the start of the crisis. I take your point but I’m not brave enough to get back in any time soon. If you feel like taking a punt do it but imo it’s a risky gamble, the company could collapse.

I’ve chucked some throwaway money at it today. I just feel like it’s one of those industries that’ll experience (albeit short) Renaissance this summer as we come out of Covid.

Although the dips this month means I’m currently upside down at the moment on my stocks. So take what I say with a dumper truck of salt ??

Edited by NelsonM3 on Thursday 25th March 21:01

Hmmm. I'm not sure how quickly cinemas are going to bounce back. Are people really going to be rushing out of lockdown to go and sit in front of a big TV for several hours in a dark room with dozens of other people?

This was my thinking when it got into the 80s which is why I sold them. I just don't see many new films being made and by the way things are going we're a long way from packed cinemas.

Nevertheless, I was kicking myself when it crept over £1.20.

[Shnozz]

The big risk I see is if cinema loses its first to screen advantage which it had historically. Looks like the tide is turning on that and then will film buffs still be so keen if they can screen at home the same day as cinemas?

[p1stonhead]

Shnozz said:

The big risk I see is if cinema loses its first to screen advantage which it had historically. Looks like the tide is turning on that and then will film buffs still be so keen if they can screen at home the same day as cinemas?

I think once pandemic is over the movies being released online etc will stop. It can’t make studios as much money as cinemas surely?

Personally for me though, in the age of £50 cinema trips vs a 4K 75inch tv at home I’ll be saving the money.

A good home setup gives at least 90% of the cinema experience these days IMO. It’s not like the old days with a 20 inch rear projection tv vs the cinema.

[bad company]

p1stonhead said:

Shnozz said:

The big risk I see is if cinema loses its first to screen advantage which it had historically. Looks like the tide is turning on that and then will film buffs still be so keen if they can screen at home the same day as cinemas?

I think once pandemic is over the movies being released online etc will stop. It can’t make studios as much money as cinemas surely?

Personally for me though, in the age of £50 cinema trips vs a 4K 75inch tv at home I’ll be saving the money.

A good home setup gives at least 90% of the cinema experience these days IMO. It’s not like the old days with a 20 inch rear projection tv vs the cinema.

There’s the risk, I understand that some new releases have gone to streaming first rather than cinema, that could continue.

Having said that predictions of the demise of cinemas have been made for years and so far always proven wrong.

[p1stonhead]

bad company said:

p1stonhead said:

Shnozz said:

The big risk I see is if cinema loses its first to screen advantage which it had historically. Looks like the tide is turning on that and then will film buffs still be so keen if they can screen at home the same day as cinemas?

I think once pandemic is over the movies being released online etc will stop. It can’t make studios as much money as cinemas surely?

Personally for me though, in the age of £50 cinema trips vs a 4K 75inch tv at home I’ll be saving the money.

A good home setup gives at least 90% of the cinema experience these days IMO. It’s not like the old days with a 20 inch rear projection tv vs the cinema.

There’s the risk, I understand that some new releases have gone to streaming first rather than cinema, that could continue.

Having said that predictions of the demise of cinemas have been made for years and so far always proven wrong.

Don’t get me wrong I do love the cinema. My local is an Everyman with the nice sofas and stuff but it’s really really expensive nowadays. Think it’s £13-14 per ticket, plus drinks and snacks and you can easily do £50 for a couple. That’s a hell of a lot for anyone even cinema fans.

Compared to 4K films at home with a few quid of snacks, it’s going to be that 90% of the time for me.

[bad company]

p1stonhead said:

bad company said:

p1stonhead said:

Shnozz said:

The big risk I see is if cinema loses its first to screen advantage which it had historically. Looks like the tide is turning on that and then will film buffs still be so keen if they can screen at home the same day as cinemas?

I think once pandemic is over the movies being released online etc will stop. It can’t make studios as much money as cinemas surely?

Personally for me though, in the age of £50 cinema trips vs a 4K 75inch tv at home I’ll be saving the money.

A good home setup gives at least 90% of the cinema experience these days IMO. It’s not like the old days with a 20 inch rear projection tv vs the cinema.

There’s the risk, I understand that some new releases have gone to streaming first rather than cinema, that could continue.

Having said that predictions of the demise of cinemas have been made for years and so far always proven wrong.

Don’t get me wrong I do love the cinema. My local is an Everyman with the nice sofas and stuff but it’s really really expensive nowadays. Think it’s £13-14 per ticket, plus drinks and snacks and you can easily do £50 for a couple. That’s a hell of a lot for anyone even cinema fans.

Compared to 4K films at home with a few quid of snacks, it’s going to be that 90% of the time for me.

It costs over £50 for my single ticket to watch a Premiership football match but I still can’t wait to get back to the stadium rather than watching on tv.

[g4ry13]

p1stonhead said:

bad company said:

p1stonhead said:

Shnozz said:

The big risk I see is if cinema loses its first to screen advantage which it had historically. Looks like the tide is turning on that and then will film buffs still be so keen if they can screen at home the same day as cinemas?

I think once pandemic is over the movies being released online etc will stop. It can’t make studios as much money as cinemas surely?

Personally for me though, in the age of £50 cinema trips vs a 4K 75inch tv at home I’ll be saving the money.

A good home setup gives at least 90% of the cinema experience these days IMO. It’s not like the old days with a 20 inch rear projection tv vs the cinema.

There’s the risk, I understand that some new releases have gone to streaming first rather than cinema, that could continue.

Having said that predictions of the demise of cinemas have been made for years and so far always proven wrong.

Don’t get me wrong I do love the cinema. My local is an Everyman with the nice sofas and stuff but it’s really really expensive nowadays. Think it’s £13-14 per ticket, plus drinks and snacks and you can easily do £50 for a couple. That’s a hell of a lot for anyone even cinema fans.

Compared to 4K films at home with a few quid of snacks, it’s going to be that 90% of the time for me.

It just doesn't compare to the cinema experience where you have someone's head in the way, feet all over the back of your chair rustling sweet packets / popcorn and someone in front of you playing with their phone, or even taking a call.

[p1stonhead]

bad company said:

p1stonhead said:

bad company said:

p1stonhead said:

Shnozz said:

The big risk I see is if cinema loses its first to screen advantage which it had historically. Looks like the tide is turning on that and then will film buffs still be so keen if they can screen at home the same day as cinemas?

I think once pandemic is over the movies being released online etc will stop. It can’t make studios as much money as cinemas surely?

Personally for me though, in the age of £50 cinema trips vs a 4K 75inch tv at home I’ll be saving the money.

A good home setup gives at least 90% of the cinema experience these days IMO. It’s not like the old days with a 20 inch rear projection tv vs the cinema.

There’s the risk, I understand that some new releases have gone to streaming first rather than cinema, that could continue.

Having said that predictions of the demise of cinemas have been made for years and so far always proven wrong.

Don’t get me wrong I do love the cinema. My local is an Everyman with the nice sofas and stuff but it’s really really expensive nowadays. Think it’s £13-14 per ticket, plus drinks and snacks and you can easily do £50 for a couple. That’s a hell of a lot for anyone even cinema fans.

Compared to 4K films at home with a few quid of snacks, it’s going to be that 90% of the time for me.

It costs over £50 for my single ticket to watch a Premiership football match but I still can’t wait to get back to the stadium rather than watching on tv.

Not quite the same though. The cinema isn’t somewhere you go for banter with your friends or a crowd atmosphere. An empty cinema is basically the dream which you can nearly get at home.

[bad company]

p1stonhead said:

bad company said:

p1stonhead said:

bad company said:

p1stonhead said:

Shnozz said:

The big risk I see is if cinema loses its first to screen advantage which it had historically. Looks like the tide is turning on that and then will film buffs still be so keen if they can screen at home the same day as cinemas?

I think once pandemic is over the movies being released online etc will stop. It can’t make studios as much money as cinemas surely?

Personally for me though, in the age of £50 cinema trips vs a 4K 75inch tv at home I’ll be saving the money.

A good home setup gives at least 90% of the cinema experience these days IMO. It’s not like the old days with a 20 inch rear projection tv vs the cinema.

There’s the risk, I understand that some new releases have gone to streaming first rather than cinema, that could continue.

Having said that predictions of the demise of cinemas have been made for years and so far always proven wrong.

Don’t get me wrong I do love the cinema. My local is an Everyman with the nice sofas and stuff but it’s really really expensive nowadays. Think it’s £13-14 per ticket, plus drinks and snacks and you can easily do £50 for a couple. That’s a hell of a lot for anyone even cinema fans.

Compared to 4K films at home with a few quid of snacks, it’s going to be that 90% of the time for me.

It costs over £50 for my single ticket to watch a Premiership football match but I still can’t wait to get back to the stadium rather than watching on tv.

Not quite the same though. The cinema isn’t somewhere you go for banter with your friends or a crowd atmosphere. An empty cinema is basically the dream which you can nearly get at home.

I agree about the experience though I’ve not been to a cinema for over 20 years. CINE was a great share for me over a few years, I’m not brave enough to buy into it again now though.

[anonymous-user]

I found myself going to the Cinema more in the 2 years previous to the pandemic than at any time in my life.
They were a lot of modern locations to go to, plus brand new IMAX, well worth the money to me.

[bad company]

jsf said:

I found myself going to the Cinema more in the 2 years previous to the pandemic than at any time in my life.
They were a lot of modern locations to go to, plus brand new IMAX, well worth the money to me.

That’s why CINE was a very good share prior to Covid, I had good growth and a very decent dividend. Will it recover? Who knows but I’m staying out for the foreseeable future.

[millen]

I find it can help to turn these questions on their head. So, if we didn't have cinemas, but had modern tech, would anyone bother to invent the concept of the cinema? Thought not..... So that to my mind makes it a dying industry.

[bad company]

millen said:

I find it can help to turn these questions on their head. So, if we didn't have cinemas, but had modern tech, would anyone bother to invent the concept of the cinema? Thought not..... So that to my mind makes it a dying industry.

If someone invented football, rugby or boxing now they’d be banned. Are those sports dying industries?

[Simpo Two]

bad company said:

millen said:

I find it can help to turn these questions on their head. So, if we didn't have cinemas, but had modern tech, would anyone bother to invent the concept of the cinema? Thought not..... So that to my mind makes it a dying industry.

If someone invented football, rugby or boxing now they’d be banned. Are those sports dying industries?

And alcohol.

[p1stonhead]

millen said:

I find it can help to turn these questions on their head. So, if we didn't have cinemas, but had modern tech, would anyone bother to invent the concept of the cinema? Thought not..... So that to my mind makes it a dying industry.

They would if they struck a deal to get films 3-4 months before everyone else.

[jammy-git]

millen said:

I find it can help to turn these questions on their head. So, if we didn't have cinemas, but had modern tech, would anyone bother to invent the concept of the cinema? Thought not..... So that to my mind makes it a dying industry.

Not everyone has a state of the art home cinema system. Even if they do, some people (myself included) enjoy the added atmosphere that going to a (nice) cinema brings. For the right film I love going to my local Curzon cinema.

[HighwayStar]

p1stonhead said:

bad company said:

p1stonhead said:

Shnozz said:

The big risk I see is if cinema loses its first to screen advantage which it had historically. Looks like the tide is turning on that and then will film buffs still be so keen if they can screen at home the same day as cinemas?

I think once pandemic is over the movies being released online etc will stop. It can’t make studios as much money as cinemas surely?

Personally for me though, in the age of £50 cinema trips vs a 4K 75inch tv at home I’ll be saving the money.

A good home setup gives at least 90% of the cinema experience these days IMO. It’s not like the old days with a 20 inch rear projection tv vs the cinema.

There’s the risk, I understand that some new releases have gone to streaming first rather than cinema, that could continue.

Having said that predictions of the demise of cinemas have been made for years and so far always proven wrong.

Don’t get me wrong I do love the cinema. My local is an Everyman with the nice sofas and stuff but it’s really really expensive nowadays. Think it’s £13-14 per ticket, plus drinks and snacks and you can easily do £50 for a couple. That’s a hell of a lot for anyone even cinema fans.

Compared to 4K films at home with a few quid of snacks, it’s going to be that 90% of the time for me.

£50 for a couple is possible if you’re an occasional cinema goer but... I have a Cineworld card, £18/month and I could see as many films any amount of films for that price. For IMAX 3D screens an extra £4 or so. I can book guest tickets at a discount to the standard price. The card also gets you 10% off food and drinks and 25% at a few restaurants.
I have a surround sound set up at home but I prefer seeing a movie at the cinema. If, IF, the world gets back to some sort of normality with films being made as before then cinema will recover. Movies straight to a streaming platform is not what the studios want. If the new norm is social distancing then cinema is surely done.

[bad company]

Simpo Two said:

bad company said:

millen said:

I find it can help to turn these questions on their head. So, if we didn't have cinemas, but had modern tech, would anyone bother to invent the concept of the cinema? Thought not..... So that to my mind makes it a dying industry.

If someone invented football, rugby or boxing now they’d be banned. Are those sports dying industries?

And alcohol.

Not to mention cigarettes. Tobacco shares are the only ones I won’t buy on moral grounds.

[vulture1]

bad company said:

Simpo Two said:

bad company said:

millen said:

I find it can help to turn these questions on their head. So, if we didn't have cinemas, but had modern tech, would anyone bother to invent the concept of the cinema? Thought not..... So that to my mind makes it a dying industry.

If someone invented football, rugby or boxing now they’d be banned. Are those sports dying industries?

And alcohol.

Not to mention cigarettes. Tobacco shares are the only ones I won’t buy on moral grounds.

I have no morals in stock buying if it makes money. If a company said they ground up live babies to increase the effeciency of coal power stations and it worked i'd buy it.

However I realise morals can affect a stock price.

[bad company]

vulture1 said:

bad company said:

Simpo Two said:

bad company said:

millen said:

I find it can help to turn these questions on their head. So, if we didn't have cinemas, but had modern tech, would anyone bother to invent the concept of the cinema? Thought not..... So that to my mind makes it a dying industry.

If someone invented football, rugby or boxing now they’d be banned. Are those sports dying industries?

And alcohol.

Not to mention cigarettes. Tobacco shares are the only ones I won’t buy on moral grounds.

I have no morals in stock buying if it makes money. If a company said they ground up live babies to increase the effeciency of coal power stations and it worked i'd buy it.

However I realise morals can affect a stock price.

I hold BAE, Diageo and some other ‘sin stocks’, so no saint. I just won’t do tobacco since my father died of cancer.