What’s your big gamble? (Volume 2)

What’s your big gamble? (Volume 2)

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Simpo Two

85,853 posts

267 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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vulture1 said:
I met my sister for coffee the other day. we got talking about shares and she mentioned she had been buying cloths from boohoo. I said I had shares in them but wondered if she felt i shouldnt due to their links to slave labour/ poor working conditions.
As she buys stuff from them she can hardly take the moral high ground if you buy shares in them...

Aiminghigh123

2,720 posts

71 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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vulture1 said:
on a sample size of 1 but I met my sister for coffee the other day. we got talking about shares and she mentioned she had been buying cloths from boohoo. I said I had shares in them but wondered if she felt i shouldnt due to their links to slave labour/ poor working conditions.

Interestingly she hadnt heard anything about it and she is a pretty morally centred person. She is 33 as well I considered her above the age of their target customer.

Online cloths sales should do well the only issue is those young that buy them might not have their bar or restaurant job to fund them.
Exactly. News is full of COVID. I reckon sales wise they will still do very well only people looking for news on BOOHOO will find it.

vulture1

12,364 posts

181 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Simpo Two said:
vulture1 said:
I met my sister for coffee the other day. we got talking about shares and she mentioned she had been buying cloths from boohoo. I said I had shares in them but wondered if she felt i shouldnt due to their links to slave labour/ poor working conditions.
As she buys stuff from them she can hardly take the moral high ground if you buy shares in them...
Yeah but she fully admitted there were certain things she needed and couldn't get out to get (she was pregnant so alot of body shape changes)
However it does show how we all have certain levels of morals until something effects us personally.

Informing her of the shares I had in dodgy african gold mines did not go down well though,laugh

JustinF

6,795 posts

205 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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vulture1 said:
JustinF said:
and Amazon, they are going to make a mint towards xmas, target price has been set by some at $3900-$4000
That depends more on the US surely.
true AMZN US sales of $60bn vs international of $25bn

Adam B

27,407 posts

256 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Don’t think the rumoured 4 week lockdown will have anything like the same impact as the first one.

Of course it won’t be good for airlines, cinemas (are any open?), bars and restaurants, probably oil etc but it’s a finite time and there was not too much activity going on anyway.

Plus lots of shares back down to March levels already!

Edited by Adam B on Saturday 31st October 18:50

petemurphy

10,140 posts

185 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Construction still open I kept eyeing costain

vulture1

12,364 posts

181 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Adam B said:
Don’t think the rumoured 4 week lockdown will have anything like the same impact as the first one.

Of course it won’t be good for airlines, cinemas (are any open?), bars and restaurants, probably oil etc but it’s a finite time and there was not too much activity going on anyway.

Plus lots of shares back down to March levels already!

Edited by Adam B on Saturday 31st October 18:50
Exactly the big drops have happened already. Will be some retraction but I suspect the US election will have a bigger effect.

g4ry13

17,214 posts

257 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Weekend FTSE100 market is just under 5500. No idea how representative that actually is when markets start opening up.

Adam B

27,407 posts

256 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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g4ry13 said:
Weekend FTSE100 market is just under 5500. No idea how representative that actually is when markets start opening up.
Futures indicate strong buy - hmmm

https://liveindex.org/ftse-futures/

Skyedriver

18,025 posts

284 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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dingg said:
petemurphy said:
Monday will be fun if he announces lockdown today!
Sounds like a guaranteed certainty.

Hokey cokey government got more u turns than a scalextric track.

And all it achieves is a delay in the inevitable.
Totally agree.
Catastrophic for much of smaller businesses who may never recover in their lifetime. Many closing or going to the wall.
Loads of people dying due to other illnesses being ignored or people not getting the medical attention they deserve. Yes CV19 can be a killer but so can cancer, heart disease, etc. How many people die of "flu" every winter? around 11000 in 2018/9 and around 13000 in 2017/8.
Lot of people suffering undue stress, at a time when mental health is being highlighted as a major problem and a contributor to other illnesses.

It's time to open up not lock down. Those who are "vulnerable" should maybe take care, avoid crowds, isolate. Sad but these people are going to be doing this anyway, meanwhile everyone else can move on in a new subdued kind of normal. And before I'm criticised I am in a group who be classified as vulnerable, not so much as others maybe but vulnerable still.


Aiminghigh123

2,720 posts

71 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Adam B said:
Don’t think the rumoured 4 week lockdown will have anything like the same impact as the first one.

Of course it won’t be good for airlines, cinemas (are any open?), bars and restaurants, probably oil etc but it’s a finite time and there was not too much activity going on anyway.

Plus lots of shares back down to March levels already!

Edited by Adam B on Saturday 31st October 18:50
I reckon could be some rises actually with furlough scheme being extended. Markets already at March/lockdown 1 level.

US going to have an impact. Might have a rally from mid Nov to end of the year.

Simpo Two

85,853 posts

267 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Adam B said:
g4ry13 said:
Weekend FTSE100 market is just under 5500. No idea how representative that actually is when markets start opening up.
Futures indicate strong buy - hmmm

https://liveindex.org/ftse-futures/
The embuggerment is that even if I did want to assign more cash reserve to the FTSE, by the time the order goes through around midday tomorrow any bounce will have happened.... haven't figured out how to solve that yet...

Skyedriver said:
It's time to open up not lock down
You're right in that it will only delay the inevitable (unless a vaccine is found) BUT it will stop the hospitals overloading. IIRC they will be crammed in another fortnight, and then unable to cope with all the normal stuff.

Edited by Simpo Two on Saturday 31st October 19:44

Adam B

27,407 posts

256 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Skyedriver said:
It's time to open up not lock down. Those who are "vulnerable" should maybe take care, avoid crowds, isolate. Sad but these people are going to be doing this anyway, meanwhile everyone else can move on in a new subdued kind of normal. And before I'm criticised I am in a group who be classified as vulnerable, not so much as others maybe but vulnerable still.
I am starting to think the same. Isolate the elderly, however tough that may be. Everyone else cracks on, with masks and distancing rules, keep the table rules at bars and restaurants.

But no one will have the political courage to do that as it could cause another say 10k deaths and people aren’t measuring the lives that could be saved from other illnesses, unemployment, depression, suicide etc

Anyway probably a discussion for the NPE forum

Edited by Adam B on Saturday 31st October 19:53

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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g4ry13 said:
I'm hoping for the very slim chance we actually go up on Monday.

vulture1

12,364 posts

181 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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MikeStroud said:
g4ry13 said:
I'm hoping for the very slim chance we actually go up on Monday.
Might be right, pubs restaurants share price is already trashed. they may all go down as well as travel nut overall I think it will rise

Simpo Two

85,853 posts

267 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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vulture1 said:
they may all go down as well as travel nut overall I think it will rise
Run that by me again?

g4ry13

17,214 posts

257 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Adam B said:
g4ry13 said:
Weekend FTSE100 market is just under 5500. No idea how representative that actually is when markets start opening up.
Futures indicate strong buy - hmmm

https://liveindex.org/ftse-futures/
First time i've seen that. But IG weekend market is down.

vulture1

12,364 posts

181 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Simpo Two said:
vulture1 said:
they may all go down as well as travel nut overall I think it will rise
Run that by me again?
errrr , lol. nut = but
and i meant pubs restaurants and travel stocks will fall. However overall the on the ftse most other shares will rise.

dingg

4,022 posts

221 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Skyedriver said:
It's time to open up not lock down. Those who are "vulnerable" should maybe take care, avoid crowds, isolate. Sad but these people are going to be doing this anyway, meanwhile everyone else can move on in a new subdued kind of normal. And before I'm criticised I am in a group who be classified as vulnerable, not so much as others maybe but vulnerable still.
100% bang on but Boris doesn't have the balls to do what's needed, he's proven himself to be an oaf.

Karmer and Labour isn't an option at the moment

I thought USA was fked we're in an equally ste position....

petemurphy

10,140 posts

185 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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anyone access to the times?

re AA

An aggressive US hedge fund could seek to join a takeover of the AA, the beleaguered car breakdown service.

Davidson Kempner, which has a 15% stake in the AA, is understood to have hired the investment bank Moelis to advise on options as talks drag on between the debt-laden company and two private equity suitors, Warburg Pincus and TowerBrook.

dont have access to the rest but will buy the paper later. sounds good - is that a takeover competitor or some nasty fund that will want it for a sp of 2p?


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