Worth dumping cash into pension before 40% rate dropped ?

Worth dumping cash into pension before 40% rate dropped ?

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PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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swerni said:
Is the tapering of contributions on hold as well?
Not that I am aware of.

JonV8V

7,261 posts

126 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
swerni said:
Is the tapering of contributions on hold as well?
Not that I am aware of.
Are we actually aware of anything for certain? If anyone is more in the know then what is actually happening?

I understood there were a few potential changes, the reduction of allowances (Ie 40k down to 10k if you earn over 110k) and changed to potential relief (I think one suggestion was moving to fixed rate). I'm sitting here and all I can gather is there is a leak saying some of the leaked pension changes might not happen. Nothing like facts to work from!

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Tapering down of the annual allowance was part of last years budget and nothing to do with this years speculation.

He might lower the income limit for it in this years budget of course.

JonV8V

7,261 posts

126 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Tapering down of the annual allowance was part of last years budget and nothing to do with this years speculation.

He might lower the income limit for it in this years budget of course.
Just to be clear - are you referring to the 50k limit on annual contributions becoming 40k etc or the 'earn over 110k and we start taking even more away down to 10k max contribution' (the numbers might not be bang on but hopefully the principal is understood).

My employer has only just written to me on the subject as it screws up all sorts of things like matched contributions and so on which made e think it is related to this years changes.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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JonV8V said:
the 'earn over 110k and we start taking even more away down to 10k max contribution'.

This.

JonV8V

7,261 posts

126 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
JonV8V said:
the 'earn over 110k and we start taking even more away down to 10k max contribution'.

This.
Thanks

So those earning 100k can stick 40k in but those earning 200k who might be able to afford sticking 40k in can only stick 10k in and get any form of tax relief.

Thats hardly an incentive for higher earners to stick any more into a pension.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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JonV8V said:
Thanks

So those earning 100k can stick 40k in but those earning 200k who might be able to afford sticking 40k in can only stick 10k in and get any form of tax relief.

Thats hardly an incentive for higher earners to stick any more into a pension.
It's not meant as an incentive.

It's mean as a restriction of tax relief.

One in place it's an easy move for a Chancellor to reduce the income level at which tapering is applied. A lot of people use pension contributions to reduce income to below £100,000 because the effective tax rate for income £100,000 - £120,000 is 60%.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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swerni said:
I thought the tapering started at £150k and at £210k and beyond the contribution was a max of £10k
Yes, in effect.

But because the £150,000 is an 'artificial' amount it can affect anyone earning more than £110,000 actual income.

Ginge R

4,761 posts

221 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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The danger of using an arbitrary figure of £150,000 reminds me. The technical definition of "Adjusted Income" is the important thing to bear in mind here - it doesn't relate *just* to salary.

The total amount of income for the tax year on which you are subject to appraisal includes "salary, bonus, profits from self-employment, benefits in kind, pension income (including uncrystallised funds pension lump sums), income from property, savings, dividends and taxable lump sum death benefits (post 5 April 2016)".

Property income etc, anyone?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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What was is they said about the 2006 pensions legislation?

Oh yes, pensions simplification ....

rolleyes

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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I'm going to wait and see on March 16th.

More votes are won by "giving to the masses" than votes are lost by "taking from the few".

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Is there any word on the 25% tax free which was under threat? (unclear if it would affect existing schemes anyway..)

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 5th March 14:51

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Was it ever really under threat though?

Jockman

17,917 posts

162 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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No

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Ok thanks! I'm 55 so weighing up the options..