Partner has £60-70k to invest- what to do?

Partner has £60-70k to invest- what to do?

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Fastchas

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2,663 posts

123 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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My GF's parents both died last year and after selling the estate she got about £140K. She lives in a 50/50 shared ownership with no mortgage, paying rent to the housing association. Her first move was to buy up the remaining 50% which she did for about £85k but now needs some advice on what to do with the remainder for a while.
Obviously, bank rates aren't great but what about ISA's? Are they the best thing to do or would you suggest other ventures?
I suggested the normal - E30 M3/Intergrale/Z3C but she was having none of it... biggrin

Edited by Fastchas on Monday 6th March 20:11

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

102 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Use it as a deposit on another property and let that out?

Fastchas

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2,663 posts

123 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Shakermaker said:
Use it as a deposit on another property and let that out?
That has been my suggestion but I don't think she wants the hassle. I can't think of a better return than buy a property and let someone else's rent money purchase it for you!

coopedup

3,741 posts

141 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Put some in Premium Bonds?

ozzuk

1,192 posts

129 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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It really depends on attitude to risk and how quick you want returns/access to money. I'd probably put some in a shares ISA and trade, and also put a chunk in an SIPP and trade - the government will add 20-40% onto any SIPP investment depending on what tax she pays, not many investments will match that!

Property...I think the boat has largely passed on this, still possible but not as straightforward.


anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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If this was me, I wouldnt buy any property, it's a right hassle and unless you get it right the profit is minimal and depends on capital growth of the property.

If she invests in a unit trust it can spread the risk across the markets, and be set up as an ISA feeder so she can use her max ISA allowance for the next few years, whilst taking advantage of the markets. So as long as she doesnt take anything out until it's all transferred to ISAs it in effect becomes a totally tax free investment.

I did this when I came into a lump sum (I also bought a buy-2-let).

So far the buy-2-let hasnt shown an income profit, although the capital investment has grown by about 20%.

The remainder went into a market based Unit Trust, currently 60% has transferred into the ISAs, but overall the investment has grown by about 50%.

As long as you get a decent adviser I'd always suggest attacking the markets in this way.

This advice is of course worth exactly what youve paid for it


xjay1337

15,966 posts

120 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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I would absolutely put it into property. It's not really a lot of hassle -

Or tell her to buy a special edition Porsche or BMW.


Ari

19,363 posts

217 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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ozzuk said:
Property...I think the boat has largely passed on this, still possible but not as straightforward.
As the saying has it, once you can see the bandwagon - it's too late to jump aboard.

ReaperCushions

6,159 posts

186 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Binary trading... there is a thread on here somewhere about people making 30k a month!!

Infact, use this promo code '100MUGGEDOFF', and I'll give you some training on the secrets

Fastchas

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2,663 posts

123 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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keirik said:
If this was me, I wouldnt buy any property, it's a right hassle and unless you get it right the profit is minimal and depends on capital growth of the property.

If she invests in a unit trust it can spread the risk across the markets, and be set up as an ISA feeder so she can use her max ISA allowance for the next few years, whilst taking advantage of the markets. So as long as she doesnt take anything out until it's all transferred to ISAs it in effect becomes a totally tax free investment.

I did this when I came into a lump sum (I also bought a buy-2-let).

So far the buy-2-let hasnt shown an income profit, although the capital investment has grown by about 20%.

The remainder went into a market based Unit Trust, currently 60% has transferred into the ISAs, but overall the investment has grown by about 50%.

As long as you get a decent adviser I'd always suggest attacking the markets in this way.

This advice is of course worth exactly what youve paid for it
I have some Unit Trusts for my pension. I'm sure they've gone from £45k to £57k in 3 years...

Craikeybaby

10,471 posts

227 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Personally, I wouldn't bother with a buy to let, as I don't want the hassle/illiquidity, not to mention the 3% extra stamp duty. I would maximise my ISA for this financial year this month, then same again for next year next month.

Edited by Craikeybaby on Tuesday 7th March 21:09

Damp Logs

749 posts

136 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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If she doesn't need the capital immediately try peer to peer lending - depending on risk attitude

Try Archover.

We have two buy to let flats and they are relatively hassle free, but no great shakes as far as returns go.


S10GTA

12,784 posts

169 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Buy a watch wink

Ian350

316 posts

180 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Fastchas said:
keirik said:
If this was me, I wouldnt buy any property, it's a right hassle and unless you get it right the profit is minimal and depends on capital growth of the property.

If she invests in a unit trust it can spread the risk across the markets, and be set up as an ISA feeder so she can use her max ISA allowance for the next few years, whilst taking advantage of the markets. So as long as she doesnt take anything out until it's all transferred to ISAs it in effect becomes a totally tax free investment.

I did this when I came into a lump sum (I also bought a buy-2-let).

So far the buy-2-let hasnt shown an income profit, although the capital investment has grown by about 20%.

The remainder went into a market based Unit Trust, currently 60% has transferred into the ISAs, but overall the investment has grown by about 50%.

As long as you get a decent adviser I'd always suggest attacking the markets in this way.

This advice is of course worth exactly what youve paid for it
I have some Unit Trusts for my pension. I'm sure they've gone from £45k to £57k in 3 years...
Completely agree with this. The tax breaks can't be ignored.

Ari

19,363 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Craikeybaby said:
Personally, I wouldn't bother with a buy to let, as I don't want the hassle/illiquidity, not to mention the 3% extra stamp duty. I would maximise my ISA for this financial year this month, then same again for next year next month.
ISAs are pretty pointless these days for this sort of amount. On £60K you'd make about £300/year interest - you can earn £1,000 interest these days without paying tax.

Even higher rate tax payers get £500 of interest tax free, you wouldn't get anywhere near that in a year.

Craikeybaby

10,471 posts

227 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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I should have specified S&S ISA, I tend to ignore ash ISAs, as like you say, they are pretty much pointless at the moment.

Kwackersaki

1,394 posts

230 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Craikeybaby said:
Personally, I wouldn't bother with a buy to let, as I don't want the hassle/illiquidity, not to mention the 3% extra stamp duty. I would maximise my ISA for this financial year this month, then same again for next year next month.

Edited by Craikeybaby on Tuesday 7th March 21:09
I think it depends on how much you're having to borrow for the buy to let. We were going to sell our un-mortgaged property to buy a new place as we were put off by the extra stamp duty. Our advisor told it to think long term as the extra few grand we would pay, was nothing when you look at it over 10 or 20 years.

We have been lucky so far as we got some excellent tenants and clear a decent amount a month after tax. Had we a mortgage on it, with the new rules it would have been a lot less.

The problem is you always hear of the bad tenants, as it makes good tv, but millions of homes are rented every year with no issue.

Ginge R

4,761 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Craikeybaby said:
I should have specified S&S ISA, I tend to ignore ash ISAs, as like you say, they are pretty much pointless at the moment.
Given the annual dividend allowance dropped yesterday, and bearing in mind the 17/18 ISA allowance is £20,000, I imagine we'll see renewed interest in them.

(Nice to have a pension lite budget for a change)

AllTorque

2,646 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Ari said:
ISAs are pretty pointless these days for this sort of amount. On £60K you'd make about £300/year interest
You're not doing very well if you're only gettiing 0.5% interest - Santander gives three times that on £20k

Craikeybaby

10,471 posts

227 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Is that on a cash ISA? Or one of their current accounts?

I've moved my medium term savings out of a cash ISA and into a normal savings account as the rates available are better. Even better rates are available on certain current accounts, if you can play by their rules.