Change of roof material.
Discussion
Early 70s mid terraced house with very shallow roof, currently has roman concrete tiles on, had them all removed and new felts, batten, vents fitted around 12 years ago, but recently noticed water ingression on the lowest part of the roof so could be coming in from god knows where, the roof is pent from back to front, rear being 2 storey front being single storey.
My question is do I need to have planning permission to remove the concrete and fit Marley Eternit fibre cement tiles ?
As the neighbours are also concrete I will obviously need to install 2 dry verges between each property.
Any info would be grateful.
My question is do I need to have planning permission to remove the concrete and fit Marley Eternit fibre cement tiles ?
As the neighbours are also concrete I will obviously need to install 2 dry verges between each property.
Any info would be grateful.
badboyburt said:
Thank you for the info, it will be lighter but the current roof is red in colour and the eternits are black/grey so colour would be an issue.
I doubt it but depends on the location and impact of the change. I hate to say it but without more detail the way forward is to go and see the Duty Planning Officer with a sample and photos of the house and get a view. Just pray you don't get the 21 yo geography student - the default will be 'apply' - try to get a proper Planning Officer.
Or post more photos etc of the house here.
badboyburt said:
Early 70s mid terraced house with very shallow roof, currently has roman concrete tiles on, had them all removed and new felts, batten, vents fitted around 12 years ago, but recently noticed water ingression on the lowest part of the roof so could be coming in from god knows where,
Have you checked the eaves felt ? If they didn't fit a 5U or eaves tray, it's possible it's rotted out by now. There shouldn't be anything wrong with a Roman after 12 years.An Eternit fibre cement will sit lower than adjacent roofs and look absolutely dire.
roofer said:
Have you checked the eaves felt ? If they didn't fit a 5U or eaves tray, it's possible it's rotted out by now. There shouldn't be anything wrong with a Roman after 12 years.
An Eternit fibre cement will sit lower than adjacent roofs and look absolutely dire.
Apologies the romans were set aside and refitted. An Eternit fibre cement will sit lower than adjacent roofs and look absolutely dire.
Felt was a breathable one and an eave support tray was fitted.
Would cross battening not help with the sitting lower issue.
V6 I will make some enquiries in the new year with the local authority, namely Basildon Council and I will also post some pictures on here tomorrow for reference.
Thanks for the info.
te though. We have not long finished a 5 year contract doing Basildons roofing stock, shame, could have sorted you some salvage !
Ooooh that's a very low pitch for Eternits! And that change in slope - ouch. What pitch is it in degrees and which Eternits are you proposing? If the are the flat or riven 'slate' type you may need a rethink they are 27.5 degree min absolute top whack and that's with double sarking.
Edited by V6Pushfit on Sunday 20th December 21:08
V6Pushfit said:
Ooooh that's a very low pitch for Eternits! And that change in slope - ouch. What pitch is it in degrees and which Eternits are you proposing? If the are the flat or riven 'slate' type you may need a rethink they are 27.5 degree min absolute top whack and that's with double sarking.
As what v6 push fit says ,Marley used to do a tile called delta which was ok on lower pitch roofs but I've been out of the trade for ages now , I doubt they would be any better than what you already have , try cleaning it down of all moss then copper or similar on the ridge to discourage moss and lichen growth Edited by V6Pushfit on Sunday 20th December 21:08
V6Pushfit said:
Looking at the photos again, a change in material is going to make the roofs look quite messy. I'm leaning towards suggesting a strip and relay onto double felt, it's also going to be cheaper.
Thanks for the advice gents, I am getting water ingression where the upper roof meets the top of the skylight and then the lower roof leaks somewhere but pours out internally above the window you see at the front, currently has a few bowls collecting the water. Looking at it again the 2nd row of tiles looks wonky kind of laying back slightly and it doesn't look like there is enough felt over the eaves tray, they fitted new fascia which I think might be slightly taller than the one removed which seems to be kicking up the bottom few rows.
Its doing my head in if im honest lol
Looking at the eternits again they wouldn't be suitable for this roof so it looks like I will have to have it stripped again and double felted like you say V6, then refit the tiles and hope it works.
What would I be looking at to carry that out, just ballpark figures.
It'll be quick enough to get a quote, there have been some roofers as above ^. Nice job for a roofer.
You've got some quite dodgy details on those roofs so it would be good to get things right this time.
Re the dodgy tiles - you've got a very large eaves on the lower pitch ? (by the side photo) - has the eave sagged?
You've got some quite dodgy details on those roofs so it would be good to get things right this time.
Re the dodgy tiles - you've got a very large eaves on the lower pitch ? (by the side photo) - has the eave sagged?
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