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Welshbeef said:
So how are you intending on spending tens of thousands on renovating it?
You could get the same mortgage on a better house + unsecured personal loans which is what you'd have to have anyway.
Tens of thousands is a bit of an exaggeration.You could get the same mortgage on a better house + unsecured personal loans which is what you'd have to have anyway.
Going back to my earlier post
S10GTA said:
I probably shouldn't have started this thread. Its too subjective. People don't know the area nor the market round where I live. You've not seen the house, and the pics don't do the house or garden justice. I thank those who've offered their advice and I have take the work aspect on-board. As stated I've put in a silly offer and will see what happens. If it happens it happens, if it doesn't then it doesn't.
If it does I'll start a renovation thread and you can all say "I told you so"
If it does I'll start a renovation thread and you can all say "I told you so"
S10GTA said:
Welshbeef said:
So how are you intending on spending tens of thousands on renovating it?
You could get the same mortgage on a better house + unsecured personal loans which is what you'd have to have anyway.
Tens of thousands is a bit of an exaggeration.You could get the same mortgage on a better house + unsecured personal loans which is what you'd have to have anyway.
Going back to my earlier post
S10GTA said:
I probably shouldn't have started this thread. Its too subjective. People don't know the area nor the market round where I live. You've not seen the house, and the pics don't do the house or garden justice. I thank those who've offered their advice and I have take the work aspect on-board. As stated I've put in a silly offer and will see what happens. If it happens it happens, if it doesn't then it doesn't.
If it does I'll start a renovation thread and you can all say "I told you so"
If it does I'll start a renovation thread and you can all say "I told you so"
New bathroom
Total internal renovation
Sorting out the bathroom
New plumbing
New plastering
Sorting out the garden.
DoubleD said:
I agree, these jobs always cost a lot more than you think. With that list of jobs you are looking at it costing big money.
Plus at the end of the day it is a lesser house than the £290k one smaller Sq M which unless you spend a lot on will never be as big plus it has a Tony garden so no scope to extend. OP get the £290k or similar one instead - remember debt has and never will be as cheap as it is now so lock in a nice 10year fixed deal 2.2% worry free
OP - look at the value of the house (price per square metre) , garden, location. All this stuff about gutting it is rubbish. Houses are expensive these days and it looks dated but perfectly liveable. Provided you or the wife are not obsessed with everything be shiny and new you could easily live it in and gradually redecorate. It's not like it has a damp problem or a leaky roof?
So what if it takes you 10 years to make is modern and perfect. Maybe that's the sacrifice that's needs to be made these days to get the house you want. The question to ask is whether the bits you can't change are the best you can get for your money. It's just a matter of what's on the local market.
So what if it takes you 10 years to make is modern and perfect. Maybe that's the sacrifice that's needs to be made these days to get the house you want. The question to ask is whether the bits you can't change are the best you can get for your money. It's just a matter of what's on the local market.
snowman99 said:
OP - look at the value of the house (price per square metre) , garden, location. All this stuff about gutting it is rubbish. Houses are expensive these days and it looks dated but perfectly liveable. Provided you or the wife are not obsessed with everything be shiny and new you could easily live it in and gradually redecorate. It's not like it has a damp problem or a leaky roof?
So what if it takes you 10 years to make is modern and perfect. Maybe that's the sacrifice that's needs to be made these days to get the house you want. The question to ask is whether the bits you can't change are the best you can get for your money. It's just a matter of what's on the local market.
That's a fair point. So what if it takes you 10 years to make is modern and perfect. Maybe that's the sacrifice that's needs to be made these days to get the house you want. The question to ask is whether the bits you can't change are the best you can get for your money. It's just a matter of what's on the local market.
However I'm wagering they will go for new bathroom and kitchen very soon after moving in. In which case it's the wrong choice IMHO.
Welshbeef said:
snowman99 said:
OP - look at the value of the house (price per square metre) , garden, location. All this stuff about gutting it is rubbish. Houses are expensive these days and it looks dated but perfectly liveable. Provided you or the wife are not obsessed with everything be shiny and new you could easily live it in and gradually redecorate. It's not like it has a damp problem or a leaky roof?
So what if it takes you 10 years to make is modern and perfect. Maybe that's the sacrifice that's needs to be made these days to get the house you want. The question to ask is whether the bits you can't change are the best you can get for your money. It's just a matter of what's on the local market.
That's a fair point. So what if it takes you 10 years to make is modern and perfect. Maybe that's the sacrifice that's needs to be made these days to get the house you want. The question to ask is whether the bits you can't change are the best you can get for your money. It's just a matter of what's on the local market.
However I'm wagering they will go for new bathroom and kitchen very soon after moving in. In which case it's the wrong choice IMHO.
S10GTA said:
The total opposite. I've agreed to make the garden a bit more user friendly but the kitchen can have a bit of paint and maybe some new tiles.
To sort that garden properly will cost thousands massive excavations and then retaining wall. Or are you happy with a nice slope in the back garden - actually make that an unusable slope in the back garden. Seriously I don't get why you are defending it so much - it seems like whatever anyone says about it in a detrimental way it's ..... It's kind of ignored.
If you've properly made the choice then fair enough but seriously take some pointers from others here - they have been through the mill themselves and also crucially are also Potential buyers for this place from you... In which case not 1 has said love the garden / can see the potential of it. Instead they see ££ to get it fixed and big hassle so unles you do it, which it sounds like your going to cut everything back hard and then think the jobs done when infact that hasn't even started the job.
snowman99 said:
OP - look at the value of the house (price per square metre) , garden, location. All this stuff about gutting it is rubbish. Houses are expensive these days and it looks dated but perfectly liveable. Provided you or the wife are not obsessed with everything be shiny and new you could easily live it in and gradually redecorate. It's not like it has a damp problem or a leaky roof?
So what if it takes you 10 years to make is modern and perfect. Maybe that's the sacrifice that's needs to be made these days to get the house you want. The question to ask is whether the bits you can't change are the best you can get for your money. It's just a matter of what's on the local market.
This is the approach we took with our current place. It needed modernising as it still had the original mid 80s bathroom and kitchen but it all works (and still does). At the time it ticked all the boxes we were looking for and its a 'big' (for the area) 3 bed on larger than normal plot.So what if it takes you 10 years to make is modern and perfect. Maybe that's the sacrifice that's needs to be made these days to get the house you want. The question to ask is whether the bits you can't change are the best you can get for your money. It's just a matter of what's on the local market.
When I actually get my finger out I will do the kitchens, bathrooms, etc but there is no rush. They sell really easily as well due to the location and the fact that they rarely come up for sale.
Here it is here: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatc...
S10GTA said:
That looks like a 2 bed that has had a crazy extension added on to create a car port and bedroom 1. Very odd.KTF said:
S10GTA said:
That looks like a 2 bed that has had a crazy extension added on to create a car port and bedroom 1. Very odd.Has a flat usable garden which the owner has put down Astro turf for year round usage.
They left the £65 Tesco garden table and chairs in the photo which appears they have used as some sort of focal point.
The car port is unusual and needs to be converted into a Garage.
I'd still say this is materially preferable to be OPs house.
S10GTA said:
Tens of thousands is a bit of an exaggeration.
I do this for a living, and it's really not. If you can do a lot of the work yourself, and doing the absolute bare minimum, you'll be looking at £10k-£20k. And that doesn't include the garden. Don't kid yourself that your Mrs will be content with the kitchen/bathroom/garden/fireplace as you potter in the garage - it's just not going to happen. Be prepared to either give up your evenings & weekends for the next few years or get busy with the chequebook.
Welshbeef said:
So how are you intending on spending tens of thousands on renovating it?
You could get the same mortgage on a better house + unsecured personal loans which is what you'd have to have anyway.
Over the course of a few years I'd guess using savings made after the house purchase.You could get the same mortgage on a better house + unsecured personal loans which is what you'd have to have anyway.
It's not difficult to come to that conclusion is it?
CAPP0 said:
Notwithstanding that my early advice to the OP was a No, Welshbeef's immense personal affront at the OP's personal choice of how and where he wants to live and spend his own money is jolly amusing.
Yes. Maybe they should post details of their own gin palace for comparison.hornetrider said:
Welshbeef said:
I'd still say this is materially preferable to be OPs house.
Difficult to add any sort of value to an already extended house, plus its a bit fugly and estate-y. No offence, just in comparison to the OP house.KTF said:
hornetrider said:
Welshbeef said:
I'd still say this is materially preferable to be OPs house.
Difficult to add any sort of value to an already extended house, plus its a bit fugly and estate-y. No offence, just in comparison to the OP house.IMO, it doesn't pay to compromise on items which have the potential to be prohibitively expensive to alter if you're considering to be in the property long term.
Personally, and as long as they were functional, I could live with a dated kitchen, bathroom and other areas until such time as I could afford (or had the inclination) to have them refurbed.
The garden in the Dibden property would probably be my biggest concern though, especially if I enjoyed being outside and had a young family to keep occupied.
If the OP or the kid(s) are not outdoor sorts, then it would be less of an issue. However, the slope on the garden makes most of it look entirely unusable which, if it were me moving in there, I'd find extremely frustrating, probably from the outset.
Personally, and as long as they were functional, I could live with a dated kitchen, bathroom and other areas until such time as I could afford (or had the inclination) to have them refurbed.
The garden in the Dibden property would probably be my biggest concern though, especially if I enjoyed being outside and had a young family to keep occupied.
If the OP or the kid(s) are not outdoor sorts, then it would be less of an issue. However, the slope on the garden makes most of it look entirely unusable which, if it were me moving in there, I'd find extremely frustrating, probably from the outset.
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