Tenant broken boiler, refusing me access to check it

Tenant broken boiler, refusing me access to check it

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TheBinarySheep

Original Poster:

1,185 posts

53 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Turn7 said:
Alternative accomodation ?

Fill yer boots bh and dont let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.....
Yes, I was going to reply "Let me know if you need a reference", but my wife warned me off doing so.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,161 posts

102 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
More random replies...

"we have never contacted you with any issues we have ever had and fixed them ourselfs and we were willing to sort rent arrears and stay here but at this present moment as you a being very pushy just to gain access to the property and are making me feel very uncomfortable as a tenant we might have to b looking for alternative accommodation "

"and we will not change our mind for you to come amd try fix the boiler you have 24hours to fix it by law by a gas safety enginerr you are not corgi registered and certainly not touching any part of my boiler"

"we will arrange for a proper gas engineer and will pay for the repair "

My reply to the last email.

"Thanks for letting me know".
"are making me feel very uncomfortable as a tenant we might have to b looking for alternative accommodation "

Tell the chav skank to crack on.

you are not corgi registered and certainly not touching any part of my boiler"

My. MY?? If the chance ever arises shove that boiler sideways up her sweaty minge, which has likely seen more pricks than the Queen Vic dartboard ranting

DoubleD

22,154 posts

110 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
Yes, I was going to reply "Let me know if you need a reference", but my wife warned me off doing so.
keep your replies brief and stick to the facts.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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DoubleD said:
TheBinarySheep said:
Yes, I was going to reply "Let me know if you need a reference", but my wife warned me off doing so.
keep your replies brief and stick to the facts.
This ^^^^^

TheBinarySheep

Original Poster:

1,185 posts

53 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Can I give the tenant 48 hours notice to inspect the property and let myself in? Some websites say no, others say yes.

ST12AT

539 posts

169 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Just let her know that if it is HER boiler in HER house then SHE can pay for the call out and there really is no reason to be contacting the unpaid third party laugh

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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mw88

1,457 posts

113 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
More random replies...

"we have never contacted you with any issues we have ever had and fixed them ourselfs and we were willing to sort rent arrears and stay here but at this present moment as you a being very pushy just to gain access to the property and are making me feel very uncomfortable as a tenant we might have to b looking for alternative accommodation "

"and we will not change our mind for you to come amd try fix the boiler you have 24hours to fix it by law by a gas safety enginerr you are not corgi registered and certainly not touching any part of my boiler"

"we will arrange for a proper gas engineer and will pay for the repair "

My reply to the last email.

"Thanks for letting me know".
Hope you're prepared for the next message saying because she's paid £xx to fix the boiler she won't be paying the arrears laugh

ambuletz

10,835 posts

183 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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It all seems a little strange for her to get so stressed about you visiting the house.

Tidying up & getting it fixed for free by the landlord VS you not cleaning up and having someone else do it at your expense.


For the sake of afew hundred quid what's she got to hide?

Carbon Sasquatch

4,736 posts

66 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Don't get smart - just refer to the contract until you become boring.

Don't worry that you ,might look like you're being awkward - I'm not even sure who you are worried might think that.

Your replies should just state that the contract is clear. you need to inspect and will then arrange whatever needs to be done to resolve the issue. No one is authorised to do any work on your property without your express approval.

Do not listen to anyone telling you otherwise - don't let her deal with it - and be clear with her she is not to.

Don't worry about 48 hours notice etc etc - ball is ion her court. Until you inspect, she will get cold. It's dead simple - but don't say that.

Just say things like as per the contract.... you would like to stick to the terms of the contract, you see no reason to deviate from the contract, you are ready and willing to fulfil your contractual obligations etc.

No-one requires you to be nice, obliging, caring etc. - you just need to do what the contract says. The more you deviate from the contract, the more you open yourself up to other problems. For example - have the electric heaters you would like to provide been tested and certified ?

Just do the absolute minimum that the contract states - nothing more or she's taking you for a mug.

Jakg

3,502 posts

170 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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FWIW said:
320d is all you need said:
You have every right to attend the property at any point when you have given notice to do so. I'm sure that is standard term in any tenancy agreement.
Just because it’s in an agreement, doesn’t make it law/binding.
Just a +1 on this.
For the duration of the tenancy, it's the tenants home. Not the landlords.
The tenant is allowed "quiet enjoyment" of the property. That means they can live there, without being disturbed by the landlord for non-essential things, such as inspections, or showing future tenants around.
Of course, a landlord may decide such a tenant is an inconvenience and want to the end the tenancy, but they have no mechanism of forcing it in the meantime.

The tenant sounds like they know their rental onions (although not how to type). Be careful with PH armchair lawyering.
Booking an inspection of the property, and then using the threat of failing to repair the boiler to force it, would go very badly for the OP.

Obviously, some initial diagnosis of the boiler is totally reasonable. But it's important not to confuse the two, like the tenant is clearly trying to do.
And of course, if the tenant is being evasive I'm sure it's easy to want to merge the two from the landlords POV, too.

FWIW

3,099 posts

99 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
My reply to the last email.

"Thanks for letting me know".
Perfect.

98elise

27,012 posts

163 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
Turn7 said:
Alternative accomodation ?

Fill yer boots bh and dont let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.....
Yes, I was going to reply "Let me know if you need a reference", but my wife warned me off doing so.
Don't. Just be polite and professional at all times. Ignore all the threats etc and just concentrate on the facts.

You have offered to attend and fix, and possibly call an engineer. She has declined and will be paying it herself.

None of her threats or attempts to blackmail you have worked. Be very satisfied with that. She will be spitting feathers now that she has lost this battle smile

carreauchompeur

17,876 posts

206 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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This woman is the problem with modern Britain in a perfect nutshell.

ambuletz

10,835 posts

183 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Carbon Sasquatch said:
Don't get smart - just refer to the contract until you become boring.

Just do the absolute minimum that the contract states - nothing more or she's taking you for a mug.
agreed. she's not very clever. she's sending out a ton of messages, not really thinking it through and being quite irrational and is making too much of a fuss over inspecting a boiler in advance. the old saying 'empty vessel makes the most noise' applies here.

Sir Bagalot

6,544 posts

183 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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CharlesElliott said:
Your tenant clearly doesn't understand that you *are* allowed access to the property. Even without a broken boiler.
Only with a court order

Turn7

23,776 posts

223 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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carreauchompeur said:
This woman is the problem with modern Britain in a perfect nutshell.
yep.

FWIW

3,099 posts

99 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Sir Bagalot said:
CharlesElliott said:
Your tenant clearly doesn't understand that you *are* allowed access to the property. Even without a broken boiler.
Only with a court order
It depresses me ( slightly) how many hobby landlords think they have right of access ‘because the agreement says so’.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

236 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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What sort of language is that? Is her grammar really that bad or is her first language not English?

t400ble

1,804 posts

123 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
The bad run of tenants is because the area is an absolute poo hole and has gone right downhill in the last few years. The houses are old colliery/pit houses that no-one with a job wants to live in.
Where?