Robot mowers

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jodypress

1,931 posts

276 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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h0b0 said:
Semmelweiss said:
Would a multimeter set on continuity work? Remove the two ends from the base station and connect each end to the multimeter.
It only confirms there is a break. I bought a detector for a few dollars from amazon. You can also use an AM radio but I di not have one around. With the detector my 7 year old kid can find the break in minutes.
So Worx support have got back to me with the following.

"if there is a continuity fault within the boundary wire this won't always get picked up by an AM radio or wire detector, sometimes the wires are touching enough to give off a signal but not strong enough for the Landroid to pick up."
But no suggestion on how to actually fix it.

Only solution I can think of is rip up the old wire and use new.

jodypress

1,931 posts

276 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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jodypress said:
h0b0 said:
Semmelweiss said:
Would a multimeter set on continuity work? Remove the two ends from the base station and connect each end to the multimeter.
It only confirms there is a break. I bought a detector for a few dollars from amazon. You can also use an AM radio but I di not have one around. With the detector my 7 year old kid can find the break in minutes.
So Worx support have got back to me with the following.

"if there is a continuity fault within the boundary wire this won't always get picked up by an AM radio or wire detector, sometimes the wires are touching enough to give off a signal but not strong enough for the Landroid to pick up."
But no suggestion on how to actually fix it.

Only solution I can think of is rip up the old wire and use new.
Just to add, had another response from Worx (great support btw)

"Unfortunately, after a number of years the boundary wire can lose its signal when communicating with the Landroid in certain areas of the lawn, going off the information you have given me, re-laying the boundary wire is the only solution to this error."

So i guess this is something that needs factoring in every few eyars or so frown

AndyC_123

1,127 posts

156 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Hi

New place has 900m2 lawn and apparently takes 3 hours with the existing push mower.

Would anyone point me towards the right robot for this area please? How difficult is the perimeter wire to install?

Cheers

irish boy

3,549 posts

238 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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What’s everyone paying for install approx? Around 3000 sq meters.

Caddyshack

11,044 posts

208 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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irish boy said:
What’s everyone paying for install approx? Around 3000 sq meters.
It is a very easy DIY job

Fishlegs

3,007 posts

141 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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jodypress said:
Just to add, had another response from Worx (great support btw)

"Unfortunately, after a number of years the boundary wire can lose its signal when communicating with the Landroid in certain areas of the lawn, going off the information you have given me, re-laying the boundary wire is the only solution to this error."

So i guess this is something that needs factoring in every few eyars or so frown
I think I'm going to do the same (Worx as well)

I've got a small section of wire it doesn't seem to be able to see, yet continuity is fine. I don't think it's a coincidence that it's a section I've messed about with many times, changing the shape of the edge. I think hammering pegs in and yanking the wire back up repeatedly has created exactly this sort of error.

I've got some major landscaping booked for autumn where the wire will need to come up anyway. My plan is fresh wire after that, and no pegs/mallet this time, but pre-cut the channel and lay it more gently.

Mr Pointy

11,381 posts

161 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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AndyC_123 said:
Hi

New place has 900m2 lawn and apparently takes 3 hours with the existing push mower.

Would anyone point me towards the right robot for this area please? How difficult is the perimeter wire to install?
There are loads of videos on YT showing how to install the wire:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=insta...

I particularly like the one which suggests using a recip saw to cut the slot.

jodypress

1,931 posts

276 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Fishlegs said:
I think I'm going to do the same (Worx as well)

I've got a small section of wire it doesn't seem to be able to see, yet continuity is fine. I don't think it's a coincidence that it's a section I've messed about with many times, changing the shape of the edge. I think hammering pegs in and yanking the wire back up repeatedly has created exactly this sort of error.

I've got some major landscaping booked for autumn where the wire will need to come up anyway. My plan is fresh wire after that, and no pegs/mallet this time, but pre-cut the channel and lay it more gently.
Interesting you're going for no pegs. I've had no issues for a couple of years and only after winter hibernation did I get them. I guess boundary wires aren't study enough to be in the ground for many years???

h0b0

7,761 posts

198 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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jodypress said:
Fishlegs said:
I think I'm going to do the same (Worx as well)

I've got a small section of wire it doesn't seem to be able to see, yet continuity is fine. I don't think it's a coincidence that it's a section I've messed about with many times, changing the shape of the edge. I think hammering pegs in and yanking the wire back up repeatedly has created exactly this sort of error.

I've got some major landscaping booked for autumn where the wire will need to come up anyway. My plan is fresh wire after that, and no pegs/mallet this time, but pre-cut the channel and lay it more gently.
Interesting you're going for no pegs. I've had no issues for a couple of years and only after winter hibernation did I get them. I guess boundary wires aren't study enough to be in the ground for many years???
I’m surprise Worx have said their cable can deteriorate. If that is the case, I’d be looking at a thicker wire as they should be readily available. I’m in the US where invisible dog fences are quite common and available in various gauges.

Also, I know you are both replacing, but it is worth noting that I am sure my detector could find the damage. I’ve had a similar situation where I got what appeared to be continuous response all around the loop. It didn’t make sense. When I scanned again, there was a dip in tone at one point with strong response a meter either side. That was where the damage was.

irish boy

3,549 posts

238 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Caddyshack said:
irish boy said:
What’s everyone paying for install approx? Around 3000 sq meters.
It is a very easy DIY job
Going round pinning 800 meters of boundary wire plus another 2-300 of guide wire, I guess it depends if it’s a good use of time depending what a professional would charge using a machine…

Zoon

6,731 posts

123 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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davek_964 said:
Condi said:
What benefit is there to an 'intelligent' one? The random ones seem to do a very good job from what Ive seen.
In reality, perhaps none. But it seems the random ones don't know where they've cut and hence have to run for many hours to cover the same area - that can't help the battery life, and I would prefer it was running for half an hour than half the day.

Since I went the German route, the intelligent Bosch has cost about the same as the dumb Flymo - which was significantly cheaper than most brands anyway - so for me, there would have to be a big advantage to the non intelligent one to make it worth the same money.
My 1200R has run for 2 hours a day for the last five years.

Jeremy-75qq8

1,047 posts

94 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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Bought a flymo 1200r.

Install was relatively painless. Shame they damn thing is bright orange given I can see it. May have to buy some wrap to tone it down. Maybe Someone sells nice coats for them.

Surprised that for a 100sqm lawn it need to run for 4.5 hours a day!

It is very very quiet which is good news

ThunderSpook

3,640 posts

213 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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You bought a Flymo and you’re shocked that it’s orange?

Zoon

6,731 posts

123 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Jeremy-75qq8 said:
Bought a flymo 1200r.

Install was relatively painless. Shame they damn thing is bright orange given I can see it. May have to buy some wrap to tone it down. Maybe Someone sells nice coats for them.

Surprised that for a 100sqm lawn it need to run for 4.5 hours a day!

It is very very quiet which is good news
It won't run for 4.5 hours, half of that will be recharging.

Caddyshack

11,044 posts

208 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Zoon said:
Jeremy-75qq8 said:
Bought a flymo 1200r.

Install was relatively painless. Shame they damn thing is bright orange given I can see it. May have to buy some wrap to tone it down. Maybe Someone sells nice coats for them.

Surprised that for a 100sqm lawn it need to run for 4.5 hours a day!

It is very very quiet which is good news
It won't run for 4.5 hours, half of that will be recharging.
Now mine is over 2 yrs old it seems to conk out and not make it back to recharge...not sure if I should wait and upgrade to something better or replace the battery. It defo would not run for more than 2 hours.

Zoon

6,731 posts

123 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Caddyshack said:
Zoon said:
Jeremy-75qq8 said:
Bought a flymo 1200r.

Install was relatively painless. Shame they damn thing is bright orange given I can see it. May have to buy some wrap to tone it down. Maybe Someone sells nice coats for them.

Surprised that for a 100sqm lawn it need to run for 4.5 hours a day!

It is very very quiet which is good news
It won't run for 4.5 hours, half of that will be recharging.
Now mine is over 2 yrs old it seems to conk out and not make it back to recharge...not sure if I should wait and upgrade to something better or replace the battery. It defo would not run for more than 2 hours.
On mine it's roughly an hour running 2.5 hours charging and another hour running.
Have you cleaned the charging contacts with sandpaper?
Sometimes they get dirty and won't charge properly.

snobetter

1,164 posts

148 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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irish boy said:
Caddyshack said:
irish boy said:
What’s everyone paying for install approx? Around 3000 sq meters.
It is a very easy DIY job
Going round pinning 800 meters of boundary wire plus another 2-300 of guide wire, I guess it depends if it’s a good use of time depending what a professional would charge using a machine…
"Free" installation https://www.autocut.co.uk/

worldwidewebs

2,382 posts

252 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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AndyC_123 said:
Hi

New place has 900m2 lawn and apparently takes 3 hours with the existing push mower.

Would anyone point me towards the right robot for this area please? How difficult is the perimeter wire to install?

Cheers
A Husqvarna. We've had Worx and Husqvarna and the Husky wins hands down

Installing the wire is easy enough - just roll it out and peg it down

ozzuk

1,191 posts

129 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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My Lawnmaster L10 arrived yesterday, wired in last night and running today between shows. Loving it so far, it is relatively subtle (mostly black, some orange) and very quiet. Seems to be cutting well, installation and set was dead easy. Lawn is probably around 250SQ meters. It's actually really fun to watch, the dogs lost interest quickly, great purchase for day 1!

bennno

11,870 posts

271 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Jeremy-75qq8 said:
Bought a flymo 1200r.

Install was relatively painless. Shame they damn thing is bright orange given I can see it. May have to buy some wrap to tone it down. Maybe Someone sells nice coats for them.

Surprised that for a 100sqm lawn it need to run for 4.5 hours a day!

It is very very quiet which is good news
Mines going all day and night, that said I’m asking it to do 900m2