Humane rat catcher

[Evanivitch]

ChrisnChris said:

I'm pretty sure it is illegal to release vermin into the wild.

It must be illegal to release vermin on someone else's land.

On the first point, it's not illegal to release vermin. The exception being non-native species which would include tree rats (grey squirrels) and black rats.

[MX5_Nuts]

We had rats in our garden a few months back and this trap with something tasty as bait placed near a hole they popped out off caught quite a few. We released them a couple miles away down the road in woodland as being baby rats they were too cute to kill

[ChrisnChris]

Evanivitch said:

ChrisnChris said:

I'm pretty sure it is illegal to release vermin into the wild.

It must be illegal to release vermin on someone else's land.

On the first point, it's not illegal to release vermin. The exception being non-native species which would include tree rats (grey squirrels) and black rats.

I didn't think any rat was native. I, and I guess the NNSS, stand corrected. Or have I misunderstood?

http://www.nonnativespecies.org//factsheet/factshe...

http://www.nonnativespecies.org/factsheet/factshee...

What about my second point?

[PositronicRay]

I'm not going to kill the thing, don't question my motives, it just ain't gonna happen. As releasing on arable farmland is out, I'm guessing I won't be popular @ the local nature reserve, then it'll have to be common land.

[anonymous-user]

You're not going to help anyone by doing it that way

[Willy Nilly]

They may well stay where they are if they have plenty to eat, but you had better make sure they have no reason to visit you house or any way of getting in if they do. Should they visit, I am quite sure your thoughts on being humane will change rather rapidly.

[Denis O]

Read a James Herbert novel and then go out and blow the feckers to bits.

They're rats FFS and deserve to be dead.

[ChemicalChaos]

They are pretty vicious fkers. We had a proper rat trap in our shed, one got caught by its hind leg and proceeded to knaw the leg off to escape.

If you are still serious about keeping them alive however, Rentokil do a very good humane tunnel trap where a battery powered door closes behind the rat once inside.

[Evanivitch]

ChrisnChris said:

Evanivitch said:

ChrisnChris said:

I'm pretty sure it is illegal to release vermin into the wild.

It must be illegal to release vermin on someone else's land.

On the first point, it's not illegal to release vermin. The exception being non-native species which would include tree rats (grey squirrels) and black rats.

I didn't think any rat was native. I, and I guess the NNSS, stand corrected. Or have I misunderstood?

http://www.nonnativespecies.org//factsheet/factshe...

http://www.nonnativespecies.org/factsheet/factshee...

What about my second point?

Countryside act 1981 states that whilst Brown rats are non-native, they are considered "ordinarily resident".

On your second point, there isn't a wilderness in the UK to my knowledge. So the idea of releasing on someone else's property is a different issue entirely. You can argue Scotland but it's a bit of a trek.

Edited by Evanivitch on Sunday 4th September 18:02

[steveo3002]

make em a little house and keep em indoors

[ChrisnChris]

Evanivitch said:

On your second point, there isn't a wilderness in the UK to my knowledge. So the idea of releasing on someone else's property is a different issue entirely. You can argue Scotland but it's a bit of a trek.

Edited by Evanivitch on Sunday 4th September 18:02

It maybe a different issue for you, but I raised the point. You haven't even tried to answer the point, just dodged it, are you a politician?

I didn't mention "a wilderness"

[dudleybloke]

Eat them. Its good protein.

[Evanivitch]

ChrisnChris said:

It maybe a different issue for you, but I raised the point. You haven't even tried to answer the point, just dodged it, are you a politician?

I didn't mention "a wilderness"

Sorry, I'll use shorter words.

Wilderness is generally used to describe areas that are uninhabited (no one lives there) and uncultivated (no one uses the land for farming (cows, sheep), mineral extraction (coal, oil, dirt) or leisure (play time)). To do the above is generally necessary to maintain property rights over an area (dibs).

So your point that about releasing rats on someone else's land is moot in the UK, because all land is owned by someone; Private, public, crown (queeny) or charitable.

Edited by Evanivitch on Sunday 4th September 19:24

[darren f]

As others have said, get rid of the food source (it will be stored grain, chickens, bird food etc., bird tables, leftovers in compost bins or rubbish bins or the like). Without doing this you will have a continual problem. And as for 'humanely removing' them, seriously, these are disease carrying vermin wherever they are. Get them killed- the only good rat is a dead rat.

[darren f]

As others have said, get rid of the food source (it will be stored grain, chickens, bird food etc., bird tables, leftovers in compost bins or rubbish bins or the like). Without doing this you will have a continual problem. And as for 'humanely removing' them, seriously, these are disease carrying vermin wherever they are. Get them killed- the only good rat is a dead rat.

[ChrisnChris]

Evanivitch said:

all land is owned by someone; Private, public, crown (queeny) or charitable.

Edited by Evanivitch on Sunday 4th September 19:24

Exactly, thank you.

[Murph7355]

PositronicRay said:

I'm not going to kill the thing, don't question my motives, it just ain't gonna happen. As releasing on arable farmland is out, I'm guessing I won't be popular @ the local nature reserve, then it'll have to be common land.

So you don't want the problem, but are happy to give it to someone else...

[All that jazz]

PositronicRay said:

I'm not going to kill the thing, don't question my motives, it just ain't gonna happen. As releasing on arable farmland is out, I'm guessing I won't be popular @ the local nature reserve, then it'll have to be common land.

So you're just going to move your problem onto someone else. How utterly selfish. Do the right thing and kill them. They are vermin, not fluffy rabbits.

[Sheets Tabuer]

I watched a gull and a rat have a fight over a mcdonalds bag the other day, the gull would fly down to grab the bag and the rat would jump at it bouncing off the gulls chest, mental things

Rat poison everywhere, pretty sure it doesn't work.

[ssray]

if you find its the compost heap, keep it very damp and turn it occasionally, they don`t like change it will spook them