My Garage / Shed build thread

My Garage / Shed build thread

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Zarco

18,003 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Great job. This is definitely a barn rather than shed.

Looks like a lovely spot too.

Lefty

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16,195 posts

203 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Zarco said:
Great job. This is definitely a barn rather than shed.

Looks like a lovely spot too.
Thanks, yeah I refer to it as my BarN - got a fridge, sofa, Perfect draft machine beside the fire.

Quite rural. We’ re a few hundred metres off an unclassified road, nearest village is 3 or 4 miles away and we can’t see another house from ours. Very peaceful. Lots of snow in winter (often drifts 6-8ft) and can get pretty cold (-23 the lowest it’s been on the 17 years we’ve been here) but we love it.

Lots of local pubs closed during lockdown and never reopened so many of the farmers started taking it turns to have beers in their barns each week, it grew arms and legs and what started out as few tins sitting in hay bales became proper furniture and pool tables and real bars and hifi and dart boards etc etc. all good fun and very sociable.

This is a shed and workshop first and foremost, functional rather than pretty but with a fire for warmth and a few concessions towards after-work comforts. Like the beer machine and sofa. smile


geeks

9,241 posts

140 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Lefty said:
geeks said:
I have shed envy and car envy at the same time!

Especially that Rallye I had an S1 in Black with some bits bolted to it and I still miss it to this day!
Thanks, I love the little pug. Never driven an S1 but they’re meant to be fabulous. Never seen a black one! This one of ours is a virtually stock s2, pug spot group n exhaust and a Quaife quick rack. No power steering, no frills, just a proper fun drivers car. Bodywork a bit tatty but it’s not rusty so that’s as good as you can hope for I think smile
Similar I haven't driven an S2 but the S1 really was a great hot hatch, one of the unsung greats to me. Had an XSI as well (also in Black) just superb little things, would have another in a heartbeat but the money the pick one up now is daft.

Mind if I ask if you needed planning for this? Have permission from the wife for a new garage and I have just about enough room for something similar.

Lefty

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16,195 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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geeks said:
Similar I haven't driven an S2 but the S1 really was a great hot hatch, one of the unsung greats to me. Had an XSI as well (also in Black) just superb little things, would have another in a heartbeat but the money the pick one up now is daft.

Mind if I ask if you needed planning for this? Have permission from the wife for a new garage and I have just about enough room for something similar.
We're in Scotland and the rules are maybe slightly different. If you have agricultural land an agricultural shed falls under permitted development. You have to submit a form with some sketches showing what you're gonna build and where and they get a month (I think) to say no otherwise you can crack on. It's called Planning Notification rather than Planning Permission and makes life a lot easier. Still things to consider like distance to boundaries and drainage and stuff but generally very few ever get knocked back in our 'shire.

Just checked, you can build up to 1000m2 and max height of 12m as long as you have more than 0.4Ha of land. It has to be >25m from a road.

Edited by Lefty on Wednesday 7th June 07:35

RC1807

12,599 posts

169 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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That's quite the shh... I mean, barn!

Lefty said:
Just checked, you can build up to 1000m2 and max height of 12m as long as you have more than 0.4Ha of land. It has to be >25m from a road.
Bloody hell! yikes

geeks

9,241 posts

140 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Lefty said:
geeks said:
Similar I haven't driven an S2 but the S1 really was a great hot hatch, one of the unsung greats to me. Had an XSI as well (also in Black) just superb little things, would have another in a heartbeat but the money the pick one up now is daft.

Mind if I ask if you needed planning for this? Have permission from the wife for a new garage and I have just about enough room for something similar.
We're in Scotland and the rules are maybe slightly different. If you have agricultural land an agricultural shed falls under permitted development. You have to submit a form with some sketches showing what you're gonna build and where and they get a month (I think) to say no otherwise you can crack on. It's called Planning Notification rather than Planning Permission and makes life a lot easier. Still things to consider like distance to boundaries and drainage and stuff but generally very few ever get knocked back in our 'shire.

Just checked, you can build up to 1000m2 and max height of 12m as long as you have more than 0.4Ha of land. It has to be >25m from a road.

Edited by Lefty on Wednesday 7th June 07:35
Yeah the rules in Englandshire are different. Have checked and I can build something this big but I will need building regs inspection (awaits Equus to turn up and correct me smile ) and I only have half an acre so about half the amount for the 0.4 hectare rule. I may still go the PP route as I’d like to take down the “carport” as the same time and rebuild The garage and and that, food for thought.

What’s your next project then?

Lefty

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16,195 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Car-wise?

Finish the TVR
Finish the mk2 escort (away for paint now)
Start the series Landy restoration
Buy more stheaps (never owned a v12 and I’d like to)


Building-wise:

Possible carport on the side of this shed
Eventually build another shed for storage and use this one purely as a workshop
Buy more land (it’s cheap up here!)
Wind turbine
Wife wants a new kitchen so might need to do that

Antony Moxey

8,172 posts

220 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Lefty said:
Building-wise:
Games shed so the kids can have a pool table?

Lefty

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16,195 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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3.6te full-height scissor lift installed by GEMCO today:





Just single phase but it’s pretty solid and not too slow, about 40s for full rise.

I went and looked at a Chinese one for sale brand new from a local company and it was a horrible, shaky thing with thin pressed steel frame and skinny rams. I really don’t fancy working under a car on a lift I don’t trust.

AJLintern

4,209 posts

264 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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That's a great garage workshop and excellent value for money! smile

gifdy

2,073 posts

242 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Great shed ! That's also a lot of Perfect draft kegs you got there - you can get money back you know smile

Your profile says 'Whisky-shire' - is that Moray ?

Lefty

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16,195 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Not far, we’re actually in Aberdeenshire but about 20 distilleries within a half hour drive though.

I only keep the unique kegs, the duplicates all go back for the £5 deposit. I just thought that they looked nice but they’re also a handy reminder as to what I’ve had and what I haven’t smile

Lefty

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16,195 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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AJLintern said:
That's a great garage workshop and excellent value for money! smile
Thanks a lot. Yes, like I said it’s functional not pretty. But I’m under £200/m2 for the actual building which was my target.

A mate of mine has a shed similar size and spent the best part of £7k on that swisstrax flooring which, admittedly, does look lovely but I’d much rather spend that kind of money on car bits.

Maybe I should have painted the walls, maybe I still will but it’s a pain in the butt painting concrete blocks and I’m guaranteed to make a mess of my nice concrete.

AJLintern

4,209 posts

264 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Are you going seal the floor to stop the dust? I'm still yet to decide which flooring to use in my garage, possibly some sort of commercial vinyl on a roll. I quite like the idea of ceramic tiles but pretty expensive and labour intensive to fit.

Lefty

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16,195 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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I went over it four times with a power float and it’s not that dusty at all - so far. I think it’ll be ok.

I did contemplate porcelain tiles but I was worried about them being slippy and, again, probably looking at £5-7k.

Earthdweller

13,657 posts

127 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Very impressive lefty the master of understatement “my garage/shed” had me thinking of you with a screwdriver and a B&Q flat pack

smile

Lefty

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16,195 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Where I live we don’t really call agricultural buildings barns. If it’s made of stone it’s a Steading. If it’s made of steel it’s a shed. It could be 200m x 50m and will still be a shed. smile

Sandy59

2,706 posts

212 months

Thursday 8th June 2023
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Nice job and great space thumbup
Tidy looking International tractor as well, a 574 maybe ??

Lefty

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16,195 posts

203 months

Thursday 8th June 2023
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Sandy59 said:
Nice job and great space thumbup
Tidy looking International tractor as well, a 574 maybe ??
Almost, 674 wink

mickk

29,001 posts

243 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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Off topic but what happened to the Cerb engine, looks like it's been standing for a while.