Sloping garden, what to do with it, help please

Sloping garden, what to do with it, help please

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Silvanus

5,423 posts

25 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Adenauer said:
Silvanus said:
With regards to plants/shrubs, it depends on what effect you want to achieve.

You could go with native plants or go for something more formal, or something in-between.

What sort of hight do you want them to grow? Do you want a small hedge along the border?

There are a huge variety of possible planting options. Exactly the sort of job I like doing.
I'm really not fussed as long as I don't have to maintain it biggrin

I also don't think we'd need a hedge at the top, it's too high to see over and we live in a little private road with 5 houses in total, we don't actually use the front garden at all.
I'd eco Evanivitch.

Although I'm not sure where you are. I'd suggest native wildflowers with possibly a couple of native fruit bearing shrubs like rowen, whitebeam or holly. This would require some basic maintenance a few times per year.

Another good option would be a bank of mixed heather's with a few other woody herbs like tyme, rosemary and lavender etc even things like blueberry or winterberry mixed in. A few shrubs like juniper and other small native conifers would work well with this option. Heather banks look amazing when in flower and are pretty low maintenance.

I do think a low native hedge along to road boundary at the bottom of the bank could look nice too and help add some structure. A boundary of rocks/low dry stone wall would look good.

I also agree with avoiding plants like cotoneaster, cherry laurel and some rhododendrons, as these can prove to be a problem, if not for you but others around you.


Adenauer

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18,585 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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EmailAddress said:
FTFY



Dankeschön smile

Adenauer

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18,585 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Silvanus said:
I'd eco Evanivitch.

Although I'm not sure where you are. I'd suggest native wildflowers with possibly a couple of native fruit bearing shrubs like rowen, whitebeam or holly. This would require some basic maintenance a few times per year.

Another good option would be a bank of mixed heather's with a few other woody herbs like tyme, rosemary and lavender etc even things like blueberry or winterberry mixed in. A few shrubs like juniper and other small native conifers would work well with this option. Heather banks look amazing when in flower and are pretty low maintenance.

I do think a low native hedge along to road boundary at the bottom of the bank could look nice too and help add some structure. A boundary of rocks/low dry stone wall would look good.

I also agree with avoiding plants like cotoneaster, cherry laurel and some rhododendrons, as these can prove to be a problem, if not for you but others around you.

Now that looks wonderful.

We live right next door to the Nürburgring, so if any of you are actually gardeners and fancy being put up for a few days whilst you sort out my hang and make it look like that, drop me a PM. biggrin

Adenauer

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18,585 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Silvanus, just showed Mrs Adenauer your picture and she said....





dudleybloke

19,986 posts

188 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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paulwirral

3,184 posts

137 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Pic 2 with the stepped terracing is the way to go . If you’re brave enough hire yourself a mini digger and form the two levels yourself as well as digging out a foundation trench , you could even order or mix your own concrete depending on how brave you are or hard your hands are . You’ll only need a couple of brick layers after that to put the block work up so there should be a healthy saving .
Before you dismiss this idea I built this entire development by myself in France , house and landscaping on a sloping plot like your garden .
I scored by using the stone I dug out to face the terrace with so saved on removing waste . It’s really not that difficult once you’ve got your head around it . I did it and I’m just a daft builder .

Silvanus

5,423 posts

25 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Adenauer said:
Silvanus said:
I'd eco Evanivitch.

Although I'm not sure where you are. I'd suggest native wildflowers with possibly a couple of native fruit bearing shrubs like rowen, whitebeam or holly. This would require some basic maintenance a few times per year.

Another good option would be a bank of mixed heather's with a few other woody herbs like tyme, rosemary and lavender etc even things like blueberry or winterberry mixed in. A few shrubs like juniper and other small native conifers would work well with this option. Heather banks look amazing when in flower and are pretty low maintenance.

I do think a low native hedge along to road boundary at the bottom of the bank could look nice too and help add some structure. A boundary of rocks/low dry stone wall would look good.

I also agree with avoiding plants like cotoneaster, cherry laurel and some rhododendrons, as these can prove to be a problem, if not for you but others around you.

Now that looks wonderful.

We live right next door to the Nürburgring, so if any of you are actually gardeners and fancy being put up for a few days whilst you sort out my hang and make it look like that, drop me a PM. biggrin
I wish I could, if it wasn't for a few unforeseen things going on at the moment, I'd have well up for a trip.

Adenauer

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18,585 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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paulwirral said:
Pic 2 with the stepped terracing is the way to go . If you’re brave enough hire yourself a mini digger and form the two levels yourself as well as digging out a foundation trench , you could even order or mix your own concrete depending on how brave you are or hard your hands are . You’ll only need a couple of brick layers after that to put the block work up so there should be a healthy saving .
Before you dismiss this idea I built this entire development by myself in France , house and landscaping on a sloping plot like your garden .
I scored by using the stone I dug out to face the terrace with so saved on removing waste . It’s really not that difficult once you’ve got your head around it . I did it and I’m just a daft builder .
That looks fabulous. My manual labor skills just about extend to changing Mrs A's summer wheels to winter wheels on her car, there isn't a chance in hell that I'd come even close to managing anything like that. I sit on my arse all day in my office, just looking at that makes my back ache biggrin

Adenauer

Original Poster:

18,585 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Silvanus said:
Adenauer said:
Silvanus said:
I'd eco Evanivitch.

Although I'm not sure where you are. I'd suggest native wildflowers with possibly a couple of native fruit bearing shrubs like rowen, whitebeam or holly. This would require some basic maintenance a few times per year.

Another good option would be a bank of mixed heather's with a few other woody herbs like tyme, rosemary and lavender etc even things like blueberry or winterberry mixed in. A few shrubs like juniper and other small native conifers would work well with this option. Heather banks look amazing when in flower and are pretty low maintenance.

I do think a low native hedge along to road boundary at the bottom of the bank could look nice too and help add some structure. A boundary of rocks/low dry stone wall would look good.

I also agree with avoiding plants like cotoneaster, cherry laurel and some rhododendrons, as these can prove to be a problem, if not for you but others around you.

Now that looks wonderful.

We live right next door to the Nürburgring, so if any of you are actually gardeners and fancy being put up for a few days whilst you sort out my hang and make it look like that, drop me a PM. biggrin
I wish I could, if it wasn't for a few unforeseen things going on at the moment, I'd have well up for a trip.
I've just sent out three enquiries showing what we have, and what we want ^^that.

I can feel the Germans sharpening their expensive pencils as we speak.

OutInTheShed

7,967 posts

28 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Adenauer said:
dudleybloke said:
Flymo and some rope.
Tried that years ago, doesn't work and I looked like the 'vot iz zet mad Englishman doing now' to the neighbors.
You want a really small flymo for this!

I would plant shrubs or hedging which can be trimmed to a sensible height.

NFT

1,324 posts

24 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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paulwirral said:
Pic 2 with the stepped terracing is the way to go . If you’re brave enough hire yourself a mini digger and form the two levels yourself as well as digging out a foundation trench , you could even order or mix your own concrete depending on how brave you are or hard your hands are . You’ll only need a couple of brick layers after that to put the block work up so there should be a healthy saving .
Before you dismiss this idea I built this entire development by myself in France , house and landscaping on a sloping plot like your garden .
I scored by using the stone I dug out to face the terrace with so saved on removing waste . It’s really not that difficult once you’ve got your head around it . I did it and I’m just a daft builder .
I like how the camera and fact it's just so well done, clean and professional looking makes it almost look like a miniature model.

Very well done, inspired me for future projects.

Adenauer

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18,585 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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If we wanted to go the mixed heathers route, any idea on how many plants we'd need if the area is 20 metres long x 4 metres high?

sinbaddio

2,384 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Found this on one of the gardening sites I buy from:

Spacing
Spacing of heather plants is important to strike the right balance between allowing good air circulation between plants whilst also ensuring they are close enough for the growth of each plant to join up over time to provide complete ground coverage. A good trick is to multiply the square footage of your planting area by 0.44 to determine how many heather plants you need (e.g. for a 8 foot by 8 foot plot, you'll need 64 x 0.44 = 28 plants). If you work in metres not feet, plan on using 5 plants per square metre (4 per square yard), making allowances for other plants nearby that have not yet reached their mature spread. If planting heathers as part of a rock garden, use no more than 1 conifer or shrub per 5 square metres (50 square feet).

https://www.jacksonsnurseries.co.uk/heathers-plant...

Evanivitch

20,465 posts

124 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Adenauer said:
If we wanted to go the mixed heathers route, any idea on how many plants we'd need if the area is 20 metres long x 4 metres high?
I'd have probably said 4 per SQM, but I would be happy to let it mature over a couple of years.

I would also say that you might have to do a little bit of soil acidity improvement just to get the best of the plants. But TBH if they scrape the turf off and then spread an acidic fertiliser should be sufficient.

Adenauer

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18,585 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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sinbaddio said:
Found this on one of the gardening sites I buy from:

Spacing
Spacing of heather plants is important to strike the right balance between allowing good air circulation between plants whilst also ensuring they are close enough for the growth of each plant to join up over time to provide complete ground coverage. A good trick is to multiply the square footage of your planting area by 0.44 to determine how many heather plants you need (e.g. for a 8 foot by 8 foot plot, you'll need 64 x 0.44 = 28 plants). If you work in metres not feet, plan on using 5 plants per square metre (4 per square yard), making allowances for other plants nearby that have not yet reached their mature spread. If planting heathers as part of a rock garden, use no more than 1 conifer or shrub per 5 square metres (50 square feet).

https://www.jacksonsnurseries.co.uk/heathers-plant...
That's only about 70 plants unless my maths is incorrect (which it may well be).

I shan't be doing it myself, I'll get a man in, so hopefully he'll know about the acidity etc.

sinbaddio

2,384 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Adenauer said:
That's only about 70 plants unless my maths is incorrect (which it may well be).

I shan't be doing it myself, I'll get a man in, so hopefully he'll know about the acidity etc.
400 by my calcs - 80 sq m plot (20x4), with 5 plants per sq m.

Great looking house btw!

Adenauer

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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sinbaddio said:
Adenauer said:
That's only about 70 plants unless my maths is incorrect (which it may well be).

I shan't be doing it myself, I'll get a man in, so hopefully he'll know about the acidity etc.
400 by my calcs - 80 sq m plot (20x4), with 5 plants per sq m.

Great looking house btw!
That's more like it, I've always been rubbish at maths. So 400 plants at a fiver a pop? 2 grand, plus a bloke to plant them all and prepare the ground etc. 4 - 5 grand would seem fair, I reckon, all in. That's a lot more palatable than 45 grand.

Thanks smile

Golden Guinea Charlie

1,350 posts

224 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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K87

3,669 posts

101 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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All depends on budget, money no object would be to cut terrances and footpaths into the bank, otherwise the coloured heathers sound like a very good idea to me, some can provide year round colour with minimal maintenance.

Monkeylegend

26,592 posts

233 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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As an alternative you could try this, great fun.

https://dryslopenews.com/manufacturers/