Bizarre planning restrictions on our house

Bizarre planning restrictions on our house

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JustinP1

13,330 posts

232 months

Sunday 3rd May 2009
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At my mate's new build estate they are not allowed hanging baskets.

s3fella

10,524 posts

189 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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I can keep chickens and donkeys, but not pigs or horses!

breamster

1,019 posts

182 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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I'm not allowed to "fire bricks", quarry gravel (small 3 bed house??) or turn the house into a place of worship!

Hmmmm....

Dave_ST220

10,309 posts

207 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Apparently i can't keep a crocodile, bummer. Solicitor said he had never seen that in 30 years!!!

onomatopoeia

3,472 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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I have to maintain a stock-proof fence around two of the borders of my garden and am not allowed to erect any structure on one section of the garden, this for the benefit of the residents of three cottages over the road. I guess that means that if I wanted to put a shed on it I'd need to ask the people that lived in those houses and get the deeds changed somehow.

The fence clause dates back to the original deeds for the sale of the land on which the house was built, which are from before WWII. The other clause only appears in my deeds when the extra section of garden was bought from the next door neighbours in the 1980s (but presumably was in their deeds before that).

dirty boy

14,724 posts

211 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Mine says that if 'immediate' neighbours deem any property to be 'unkept' they can instruct contractors to remedy the eyesore and invoice the occupier.

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No caravans

No walls, solid fences on the front garden aligned with the path.

There are others, can't remember them all, only the top one really struck a note though, as we were lazy buggers and never cut our front lawn (ended up having it stoned) :heheh:

ndg

560 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Well I'm not allowed to host a 'church of the catholic faith or other descenting religions'! I also cannot run a brewery or pub, damn.


mk1fan

10,561 posts

227 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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Brown and Boris said:
They tend to be covenants placed by the builders which last for a period (10 years?) to ensure the estate stays tidy. We used to have one which told us which shrubs we had to plant in the front garden if we had a hedge (had to be Berberris).
How can any one say that these are builder's covenants when the OP's solicitor stated (according to the OP) that they are Planning Restrictions? I assume the solicitor actually read the results of their searches and commented accordingly.

In answering the OP's question Planning Enforcement is the job of ..... wait for it ..... you'll be surprised ..... just a little longer ..... the local Planning Department.

Busamav

2,954 posts

210 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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mk1fan said:
How can any one say that these are builder's covenants when the OP's solicitor stated (according to the OP) that they are Planning Restrictions?
I would say they are mostly developers covenants , certainly not something that planners would normally be interested in .

mk1fan

10,561 posts

227 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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Busamav said:
mk1fan said:
How can any one say that these are builder's covenants when the OP's solicitor stated (according to the OP) that they are Planning Restrictions?
I would say they are mostly developers covenants , certainly not something that planners would normally be interested in .
Again, as the OP has said that they're Planning Restrictions then giving advice on dealing with covenants is a waste of time.

andy43

9,834 posts

256 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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gti tim said:
When we bought our house, the solicitor made us aware of various planning restrictions that applied - some understandable such as no business vehicles or caravans on driveways (flouted by many including me on occasion), no speedboats, no cars in state of disrepair, no carports, no raised decking, and rather bizarrely no running of businesses from the premises and no keeping of spiders, snakes or other exotic animals!

Who is likely to be able to enforce these restrictions? Anyone got any other bizarre ones on their property?
Our garden 'must be used as an ornamental garden'. Doh. There goes the go-kart track plans frown

Go on, buy a snake. Keep it in a caravan under your carport. Rebel against society, live life on the edge.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

247 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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mk1fan said:
Busamav said:
mk1fan said:
How can any one say that these are builder's covenants when the OP's solicitor stated (according to the OP) that they are Planning Restrictions?
I would say they are mostly developers covenants , certainly not something that planners would normally be interested in .
Again, as the OP has said that they're Planning Restrictions then giving advice on dealing with covenants is a waste of time.
The OP (or perhaps his solicitor) is mistaken.

I guarantee that these are covenants, not Planning restrictions. My guarantee is based on the fact that it would be illegal for the Local Authority to have imposed the majority of the restrictions he's quoting, as they fall outside of the scope of the powers contained within the Town and Country Planning Act; if they're Planning Restrictions then I will personally undertake to have them removed on his behalf by the Planning Inspectorate.

If you want to make enquiries with your local Planning Department about whether you're alowed to keep exotic pets, be prepared to be treated as a loony/halfwit.

mk1fan

10,561 posts

227 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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I'll give you the pets, but business use? Only a remtard would think this couldn't fall under Planning.

My point was that everyone is saying these aren't Planning Restrictions and responding accordingly. In reality it's probably a combination of both and the OP is generalising / misunderstood what their solicitor said.

Edited by mk1fan on Friday 8th May 17:43

Sam_68

9,939 posts

247 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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mk1fan said:
...but business use? Only a remtard would think this couldn't fall under Planning.
Only a remtard would think that it needed a specific restriction. wink

Planning Departments don't need to apply a Planning Condition to prevent business use of a domestic dwelling; it's implicit in the original approval. You need to apply for a Change of Use on any dwelling if you want to use it for business purposes.

gti tim

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1,633 posts

203 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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planning restriction - building control - whatever it is, i wasn't particularly interested in debating the finer points of law, just intrigued to see if anyone had such conditions or worse.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

247 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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gti tim said:
i wasn't particularly interested in debating the finer points of law
But you did ask who is likely to be able to enforce such restrictions.

...in which case whether they are Planning Conditions or Covenants is hardly a 'finer point of law', it's fundamental to the whole issue.

And as you'll have discovered by now, you can come across some pretty bizarre covenants. Basically anyone who's selling a piece of land can place whatever covenants they want on its use, and there have been some right loonies selling land over the years...

Oh, and Building Control is another matter entirely, but they're not widely known for stopping people from keeping exotic pets, either. wink

Busamav

2,954 posts

210 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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mk1fan said:
Busamav said:
mk1fan said:
How can any one say that these are builder's covenants when the OP's solicitor stated (according to the OP) that they are Planning Restrictions?
I would say they are mostly developers covenants , certainly not something that planners would normally be interested in .
Again, as the OP has said that they're Planning Restrictions then giving advice on dealing with covenants is a waste of time.
They are not planning restrictions .



Edited by Busamav on Saturday 9th May 06:05

SimonD

486 posts

283 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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My brother wasn't allowed a circus at his last house.

That didn't go down too well with the giraffes and lions I can tell you.