Energy price rises - what are you paying?
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My only gripe with Octopus is they didn't make it easy to refund some of your credit which they now seem to have sorted. We're currently in a rental house while we're getting renovations done. The boiler is off and there will be some electricity use for power tools etc but we'll mostly just be getting hit with the standing charges for the next couple of months so thought about taking some of the credit to pay the utilities at the rental.
Actually might as well withdraw the credit and keep it to one side earning 3% interest now they've made it easier.
Actually might as well withdraw the credit and keep it to one side earning 3% interest now they've made it easier.
Hereward said:
Literally what EDF did with me this morning (my garage is on a separate meter hence the low consumption):
I would tell them you are making a complaint to the ombudsmen, the guidelines are very clear that they should base the DD on actual usage not some fantasy figure. This whole you might fall into debt is completely made up. The truth is they are using this whole mess as a smokescreen to effectively get a interest free loan off all their customers to fund their cash flow.
Can you not just cancel the direct debit and demand to be billed for usage?
Hereward said:
Literally what EDF did with me this morning (my garage is on a separate meter hence the low consumption):
Just tell them you want switching to Direct Debit Whole Amount and you'll pay the same price per kWh but you'll only pay for what you've used, after you've used it, which would seem fine for a garage with low consumption.On the flip side of EDF, I give you Eon, who have been refunding my direct debit whilst we have been getting the government subsidy, because the based their guess work of my summer usage when I used hardly any gas.
The net result is I now owe them just over £200, because they couldn’t leave it alone. Thankfully I kept the money and haven’t spent it, but can imagine others haven’t done so.
The net result is I now owe them just over £200, because they couldn’t leave it alone. Thankfully I kept the money and haven’t spent it, but can imagine others haven’t done so.
Celtic Dragon said:
On the flip side of EDF, I give you Eon, who have been refunding my direct debit whilst we have been getting the government subsidy, because the based their guess work of my summer usage when I used hardly any gas.
The net result is I now owe them just over £200, because they couldn’t leave it alone. Thankfully I kept the money and haven’t spent it, but can imagine others haven’t done so.
Supporting that most suppliers are fThe net result is I now owe them just over £200, because they couldn’t leave it alone. Thankfully I kept the money and haven’t spent it, but can imagine others haven’t done so.
king useless I give you "Scottish Power"Who are crediting your energy account with the £66/£67 "Government Subsidy Contribution" and then refunding it to your bank account that they take the Direct Debit from.....
I think this is so that the credit doesn't f
k up their assesment of your energy usage/credit balance but as they are a sack of s
t on that aspect anyway it's not helping muchThis also means that any meter readings submitted in the last 2 weeks of the month take a minimum of 10 days to come up with a bill
Just a question, somebody might know the answer to!
I've just logged into my Eon Next account and they are offering a tariff for charging your car, the day time electric price per kwh is very similar to what I pay now but the night time one is a lot lower. I dont have an electric car however I do work night shifts from home. I used to have an economy 7 meter at an old house and I used to do all the electric stuff at night, dishwasher, washing machine etc.
Is there anything stopping me jumping on this tariff from them? cant really see anywhere that says you must have an electric car.
I've just logged into my Eon Next account and they are offering a tariff for charging your car, the day time electric price per kwh is very similar to what I pay now but the night time one is a lot lower. I dont have an electric car however I do work night shifts from home. I used to have an economy 7 meter at an old house and I used to do all the electric stuff at night, dishwasher, washing machine etc.
Is there anything stopping me jumping on this tariff from them? cant really see anywhere that says you must have an electric car.
I don't think Eon's tariff requires a specific car or charger, therefore they technically wouldn't know if you weren't plugging in (The Intelligent Octopus tariff actually gives Octopus control of your car charging so they can tell if you aren't plugging it in, and it's in their terms that you must do an intelligent charge on a monthly basis)
I think they do ask you to confirm that you have an EV during the sign up process, but no idea if they ever enforce this.
I think they do ask you to confirm that you have an EV during the sign up process, but no idea if they ever enforce this.
Blue Oval84 said:
I don't think Eon's tariff requires a specific car or charger, therefore they technically wouldn't know if you weren't plugging in (The Intelligent Octopus tariff actually gives Octopus control of your car charging so they can tell if you aren't plugging it in, and it's in their terms that you must do an intelligent charge on a monthly basis)
I think they do ask you to confirm that you have an EV during the sign up process, but no idea if they ever enforce this.
Indeed and if you do have charge an EV what's to stop you from powering anything else from that I think they do ask you to confirm that you have an EV during the sign up process, but no idea if they ever enforce this.
dickymint said:
Indeed and if you do have charge an EV what's to stop you from powering anything else from that
If you mean powering other stuff from an EV then your options are currently extremely limited. A small but increasing number of EVs allow you to power a 13amp socket from the car's batteries (V2L - Vehicle to Load). I think there's only one EV which enables V2H or V2G (House or Grid respectively) and you need a particular type of EVSE to enable that.
My fixed tariff is about to finish,
21.25 p/kWh and 36.94p standing rate. Not sure if I should just say on a standard variable tariff or fix given the cap is coming down…. What’s the most efficient way of thinking about it, as I also have an EV albeit only really charge it at home 5 times per month.
21.25 p/kWh and 36.94p standing rate. Not sure if I should just say on a standard variable tariff or fix given the cap is coming down…. What’s the most efficient way of thinking about it, as I also have an EV albeit only really charge it at home 5 times per month.
My fixed ends in the next day or so. Going to roll onto the std variable and keep a close watch. As there is little benefit to fixing now, and no early exit charge it's easy to move if something comes up.
Clearly the risk is that something major happens to push prices up this winter. But going to wing it.
Fixed was Elec 18.76 and 22.57 standing
Gas was 3.68 and 23.73 standing
So rolling onto std variable will be a big increase.
Clearly the risk is that something major happens to push prices up this winter. But going to wing it.
Fixed was Elec 18.76 and 22.57 standing
Gas was 3.68 and 23.73 standing
So rolling onto std variable will be a big increase.
Edited by FiF on Monday 25th September 23:30
SSG1000 said:
My fixed tariff is about to finish,
21.25 p/kWh and 36.94p standing rate. Not sure if I should just say on a standard variable tariff or fix given the cap is coming down…. What’s the most efficient way of thinking about it, as I also have an EV albeit only really charge it at home 5 times per month.
Might be worth looking at OVO Anytime. I think you get 10p per KW charging for your EV, but your day remains at the standard rate, you don't get charged more like you do on many Economy 7 type plans.21.25 p/kWh and 36.94p standing rate. Not sure if I should just say on a standard variable tariff or fix given the cap is coming down…. What’s the most efficient way of thinking about it, as I also have an EV albeit only really charge it at home 5 times per month.
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