Neighbour wanting a front extension, not pleased.
Discussion
OK, just had a look, is this the site I need to get them, and if so which section do I use? I presume it's one of the information services, but can't fathom which. Any pointers please?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-u...
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-u...
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
OK, just had a look, is this the site I need to get them, and if so which section do I use? I presume it's one of the information services, but can't fathom which. Any pointers please?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-u...
https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/www/wps/portal/!ut/p/b1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOKNjSxMDA1NjDwsjM3MDTxN3dyNDUNMjQ1MjPWDU_P0C7IdFQG9k5Tz/https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-u...
alfie2244 said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
OK, just had a look, is this the site I need to get them, and if so which section do I use? I presume it's one of the information services, but can't fathom which. Any pointers please?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-u...
https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/www/wps/portal/!ut/p/b1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOKNjSxMDA1NjDwsjM3MDTxN3dyNDUNMjQ1MjPWDU_P0C7IdFQG9k5Tz/https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-u...
Nothing I can add having downloaded them. Outlined in red is his house, back garden and front yard. Exactly the same as ours. There is another black and white copy of ours, showing symbols, including one which is listed as right of access. I can't see it in our home pack anywhere, and Sarah's away for the weekend so can't ask her where it is. The only other thing the deeds/title plan cover is restrictive covenants placed on the property by the National Coal Board in 1980. Basically saying any property changes need their permission. The whole village has ignored this, and we plan to too, as at some point we are hoping to extend back. I can post anything up, but there's really nothing to see other than that.
The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor. [url]
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The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor. [url]
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Nothing I can add having downloaded them. Outlined in red is his house, back garden and front yard. Exactly the same as ours. There is another black and white copy of ours, showing symbols, including one which is listed as right of access. I can't see it in our home pack anywhere, and Sarah's away for the weekend so can't ask her where it is. The only other thing the deeds/title plan cover is restrictive covenants placed on the property by the National Coal Board in 1980. Basically saying any property changes need their permission. The whole village has ignored this, and we plan to too, as at some point we are hoping to extend back. I can post anything up, but there's really nothing to see other than that.
The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor.
In the absence of pics of the wife....Does it say how much you both paid for your houses? The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor.
alfie2244 said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Nothing I can add having downloaded them. Outlined in red is his house, back garden and front yard. Exactly the same as ours. There is another black and white copy of ours, showing symbols, including one which is listed as right of access. I can't see it in our home pack anywhere, and Sarah's away for the weekend so can't ask her where it is. The only other thing the deeds/title plan cover is restrictive covenants placed on the property by the National Coal Board in 1980. Basically saying any property changes need their permission. The whole village has ignored this, and we plan to too, as at some point we are hoping to extend back. I can post anything up, but there's really nothing to see other than that.
The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor.
In the absence of pics of the wife....Does it say how much you both paid for your houses? The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor.
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Nothing I can add having downloaded them. Outlined in red is his house, back garden and front yard. Exactly the same as ours. There is another black and white copy of ours, showing symbols, including one which is listed as right of access. I can't see it in our home pack anywhere, and Sarah's away for the weekend so can't ask her where it is. The only other thing the deeds/title plan cover is restrictive covenants placed on the property by the National Coal Board in 1980. Basically saying any property changes need their permission. The whole village has ignored this, and we plan to too, as at some point we are hoping to extend back. I can post anything up, but there's really nothing to see other than that.
The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor.
That's not communally owned, then. The red is the border of his plot - which goes right to the road. If it stopped at the front of the building, then there might well be a separate, unregistered, ownership of the communal path - but it's explicitly shown as part of his plot on that plan.The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor.
If you have right of access, then he can't build over the full depth, because that would block your right of access. Minimum width for a foot right of way is generally 1m, or 1.5m if immediately adjacent to a boundary.
I guess you've seen this... https://www.bassetlaw.gov.uk/everything-else/plann...
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
There is another black and white copy of ours, showing symbols, including one which is listed as right of access.
As I asked previously, a right of access over what? This should be clear on the plan. Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor.
It is not communal. He owns the yard in front of his house and you own the yard in front of yours. I think he is likely to get planning permission for a large porch in this situation, so unless you have rights over the land, I would get a quote to put your own gate in the wall and build a small boundary fence.
Edited by Elysium on Friday 30th March 16:42
TooMany2cvs said:
That's not communally owned, then. The red is the border of his plot - which goes right to the road. If it stopped at the front of the building, then there might well be a separate, unregistered, ownership of the communal path - but it's explicitly shown as part of his plot on that plan.
If you have right of access, then he can't build over the full depth, because that would block your right of access. Minimum width for a foot right of way is generally 1m, or 1.5m if immediately adjacent to a boundary.
I guess you've seen this... https://www.bassetlaw.gov.uk/everything-else/plann...
I hadn't, thank you. I did actually look around their site trying to find such a thing but couldn't. The very points they say they consider are ones we shall be taking issue with, IE over baring (they use the word dominance) If you have right of access, then he can't build over the full depth, because that would block your right of access. Minimum width for a foot right of way is generally 1m, or 1.5m if immediately adjacent to a boundary.
I guess you've seen this... https://www.bassetlaw.gov.uk/everything-else/plann...
I am hoping and praying that he gets the garage knocked up beforehand. It shall mean that 60something % of his land has extensions or structures on it, past permitted development. Raising this as a concern in an objection (without stating knowledge of the term) will surely get their attention.
Elysium said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
There is another black and white copy of ours, showing symbols, including one which is listed as right of access.
As I asked previously, a right of access over what? This should be clear on the plan. Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
The only thing supporting 'communal' at this point is email advice from the solicitor.
It is not communal. He owns the yard in front of his house and you own the yard in front of yours. I think he is likely to get planning permission for a large porch in this situation, so unless you have rights over the land, I would get a quote to put your own gate in the wall and build a small boundary fence.
Edited by Elysium on Friday 30th March 16:42
alfie2244 said:
Quick Q.............Have you both got walls at the edge of your front boundary where they meet the footpath?
The only possible communal / ROW I can see is down the side of your house to access the rear gardens?
No, to the front, and our side. The front gate is in front of his house, and that's where it's been since 1875. The only possible communal / ROW I can see is down the side of your house to access the rear gardens?
The rear used to have access rights, but all the other 5 have extended their houses and fenced their gardens years ago.
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Elysium said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
There is another black and white copy of ours, showing symbols, including one which is listed as right of access.
As I asked previously, a right of access over what? This should be clear on the plan. Elysium said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Elysium said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
There is another black and white copy of ours, showing symbols, including one which is listed as right of access.
As I asked previously, a right of access over what? This should be clear on the plan. A visual if that isn't clear. That bay tree in the foreground, that's where he wants the side of his extension. Over baring much?
Ok, this the last post from me on this topic.
Fermit, you have posted a plan of your neighbours property on a PUBLIC forum without his authority, identifying his address and ownership. Did you not read the T&C's when you downloaded that information? If you haven't understood what implications there are for you regarding this then I am amazed! If I found a neighbour of mine had done that then they would be receiving a letter from my solicitor next week!!!
For your own protection I would strongly advise that you DELETE your previous post asap, and hopefully the likelihood of you being sued will not be another topic.
As you have also stated that you want to build an extension to the rear of your property in the future, I would suggest being very careful where you go with your objection to your neighbours porch/front extension as these things tend to get very much out of hand with a tit-for-tat retaliation.
ATB
Fermit, you have posted a plan of your neighbours property on a PUBLIC forum without his authority, identifying his address and ownership. Did you not read the T&C's when you downloaded that information? If you haven't understood what implications there are for you regarding this then I am amazed! If I found a neighbour of mine had done that then they would be receiving a letter from my solicitor next week!!!
For your own protection I would strongly advise that you DELETE your previous post asap, and hopefully the likelihood of you being sued will not be another topic.
As you have also stated that you want to build an extension to the rear of your property in the future, I would suggest being very careful where you go with your objection to your neighbours porch/front extension as these things tend to get very much out of hand with a tit-for-tat retaliation.
ATB
pequod said:
Ok, this the last post from me on this topic.
Fermit, you have posted a plan of your neighbours property on a PUBLIC forum without his authority, identifying his address and ownership. Did you not read the T&C's when you downloaded that information? If you haven't understood what implications there are for you regarding this then I am amazed! If I found a neighbour of mine had done that then they would be receiving a letter from my solicitor next week!!!
For your own protection I would strongly advise that you DELETE your previous post asap, and hopefully the likelihood of you being sued will not be another topic.
As you have also stated that you want to build an extension to the rear of your property in the future, I would suggest being very careful where you go with your objection to your neighbours porch/front extension as these things tend to get very much out of hand with a tit-for-tat retaliation.
ATB
Oh do behave! Firstly, it is not even called Cockshut Lane any longer, and I have never mentioned his name. I suggest you also demand posters of Nightmares In The Real Estate thread along with thousands of others countless posts with streetview links remove their posts so they don't get sued. As for us objecting, yes, we fFermit, you have posted a plan of your neighbours property on a PUBLIC forum without his authority, identifying his address and ownership. Did you not read the T&C's when you downloaded that information? If you haven't understood what implications there are for you regarding this then I am amazed! If I found a neighbour of mine had done that then they would be receiving a letter from my solicitor next week!!!
For your own protection I would strongly advise that you DELETE your previous post asap, and hopefully the likelihood of you being sued will not be another topic.
As you have also stated that you want to build an extension to the rear of your property in the future, I would suggest being very careful where you go with your objection to your neighbours porch/front extension as these things tend to get very much out of hand with a tit-for-tat retaliation.
ATB
king well are going to, thank you for your input. He has a similar rear extension, so he couldn't really object to us extending, and anyways, we can extend three metres back WITHOUT planning, so it's not like we need to submit planning for him to object to. If any mods request me to remove it I shall with no argument, but I can't really see an issue with it.
Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Friday 30th March 18:37
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