Woodwork 101

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21TonyK

11,583 posts

210 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Until recently we have always lived in historic houses or listed buildings, most with amazing woodwork. It's lovely to see some of the old style being continued, things you just don't see people putting the time, effort (and money) into.

I assume that those skirtings are for you or a very particular client!

loughran

2,766 posts

137 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Yes for home, we live in a house that has needed everything doing so getting to the skirting board and radiator cover stage is great.... I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

singlecoil

33,858 posts

247 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I thought this might be of interest to people familiar with the Festool MFT and track saw system.



I designed in Sketchup and had it CNC routered by Formatic in Reading. When it's finished I'll be able to cut 8 x 4 sheets into panels which are accurately sized and perfectly square.

It's made from 18m birch ply, best part of five sheets so probably around 170kg. but heavy is good with this sort of thing (unless you need it to be mobile, of course).

It would be perfectly feasible for somebody to have one of these in their garage if they were keen woodworkers and didn't need to park a car in there smile

OMITN

2,212 posts

93 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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singlecoil said:
I thought this might be of interest to people familiar with the Festool MFT and track saw system.



I designed in Sketchup and had it CNC routered by Formatic in Reading. When it's finished I'll be able to cut 8 x 4 sheets into panels which are accurately sized and perfectly square.

It's made from 18m birch ply, best part of five sheets so probably around 170kg. but heavy is good with this sort of thing (unless you need it to be mobile, of course).

It would be perfectly feasible for somebody to have one of these in their garage if they were keen woodworkers and didn't need to park a car in there smile
Very nicely done. I watched Matt Eastlea's series on youtube on his very similar workbench yesterday.

I've got a bit of a cunning plan to build a small rolling version (obis not as stable as yours) so I can use it - and extend into a plywood citing table with the help of my workmate/a DIY sawhorse). It can then move and allow a car in.

That way I can butcher wood and keep a car in a dry (but dusty!) garage over winter smile

Aluminati

2,541 posts

59 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Loughran is a legend in my book.

Serious chippery skills cool

Main trade Sir ?

Slagathore

5,824 posts

193 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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OMITN said:
Very nicely done. I watched Matt Eastlea's series on youtube on his very similar workbench yesterday.

I've got a bit of a cunning plan to build a small rolling version (obis not as stable as yours) so I can use it - and extend into a plywood citing table with the help of my workmate/a DIY sawhorse). It can then move and allow a car in.

That way I can butcher wood and keep a car in a dry (but dusty!) garage over winter smile
https://www.firstcastors.com/en/copy-of-super-low-level-cast-iron-polyurethane-swivel-castor-with-rubber-coated-floor-plate-50mm2

I spent bloody ages looking for castors like that at a reasonable price. Finally found them.

Quite handy if you have uneven floor. Probably quite handy as well if you're making a smaller, lighter table, as you can pop it up on the feet to stop it moving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWXG3ntz6iM

That's also a really efficient design to minimise how many sheets you need. I have a bigger and beefier version and it's rock solid, no racking or movement at all.

OMITN

2,212 posts

93 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Slagathore said:
https://www.firstcastors.com/en/copy-of-super-low-...

I spent bloody ages looking for castors like that at a reasonable price. Finally found them.

Quite handy if you have uneven floor. Probably quite handy as well if you're making a smaller, lighter table, as you can pop it up on the feet to stop it moving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWXG3ntz6iM

That's also a really efficient design to minimise how many sheets you need. I have a bigger and beefier version and it's rock solid, no racking or movement at all.
Cheers! Will take a look!

singlecoil

33,858 posts

247 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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OMITN said:
singlecoil said:
I thought this might be of interest to people familiar with the Festool MFT and track saw system.



I designed in Sketchup and had it CNC routered by Formatic in Reading. When it's finished I'll be able to cut 8 x 4 sheets into panels which are accurately sized and perfectly square.

It's made from 18m birch ply, best part of five sheets so probably around 170kg. but heavy is good with this sort of thing (unless you need it to be mobile, of course).

It would be perfectly feasible for somebody to have one of these in their garage if they were keen woodworkers and didn't need to park a car in there smile
Very nicely done. I watched Matt Eastlea's series on youtube on his very similar workbench yesterday.
I had a quick look at his channel but couldn't find anything similar to mine. His appears to be a general purpose workbench where mine is designed specifically for cutting panels in a way that I haven't seen on any YouTube videos (and I've watched a lot). I'll do a video on it when the rest of it is ready.

OMITN

2,212 posts

93 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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singlecoil said:
I had a quick look at his channel but couldn't find anything similar to mine. His appears to be a general purpose workbench where mine is designed specifically for cutting panels in a way that I haven't seen on any YouTube videos (and I've watched a lot). I'll do a video on it when the rest of it is ready.
Have a look under his workshop playlist. It’s essentially a large valcromat topped cutting/assembly table. Also has 20mm spaced holes (he used Peter Parfitt’s “parf system”).

April Wilkerson’s one is very good (and on castors).

My existing workbench is a v basic thing made from 2x4s and 9mm ply. My intention is to have a fixed bench and the end of the garage onto which the engineers and woodworking vices are attached. The large ply box on wheels will store underneath and then roll out.

I’ve got a basic ladder style ply cutting “table” now. It uses a saw horse at one end and the workmate at the other. Has done well for building garage cabinets and MDF bookcases. But it’s heavy and in the way, so I want to create a knock down system that relies on a rolling workbench and the workmate.

Once it’s built - going to be a while as the garage is filled with junk - all this will make sense.

PS those castors are ideal. Thanks v much for the link..!

singlecoil

33,858 posts

247 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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OMITN said:
singlecoil said:
I had a quick look at his channel but couldn't find anything similar to mine. His appears to be a general purpose workbench where mine is designed specifically for cutting panels in a way that I haven't seen on any YouTube videos (and I've watched a lot). I'll do a video on it when the rest of it is ready.
Have a look under his workshop playlist. It’s essentially a large valcromat topped cutting/assembly table. Also has 20mm spaced holes (he used Peter Parfitt’s “parf system”).
Thanks but if you don't mind me saying so mine is taking things a step further. I would have to say that good though the Parf Mk2 guide system is, it would be unsuitable for a table this size (apart from having to drill 288 holes, there really isn't any chance that they would still be perfectly spaced and square over an area like that). And having that perfect squareness and spacing is key to my system producing accurate results.

OMITN

2,212 posts

93 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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singlecoil said:
Thanks but if you don't mind me saying so mine is taking things a step further. I would have to say that good though the Parf Mk2 guide system is, it would be unsuitable for a table this size (apart from having to drill 288 holes, there really isn't any chance that they would still be perfectly spaced and square over an area like that). And having that perfect squareness and spacing is key to my system producing accurate results.
Sorry, wasn’t comparing. I genuinely think yours is extremely impressive. And you’re right - drilling 288 holes would be a nightmare..!

Look forward to more pics in action smile

PAT64

699 posts

60 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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another random question which clamps are best if I am trying to do a fence working with 2 by 4s and 4by4 fence post, on my own ?


uncinqsix

3,239 posts

211 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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PAT64 said:
another random question which clamps are best if I am trying to do a fence working with 2 by 4s and 4by4 fence post, on my own ?
The one-handed quick grip clamps are good for that sort of thing. You'd probably want some of the 300mm size. Otherwise some F clamps of a similar size.

PAT64

699 posts

60 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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uncinqsix said:
The one-handed quick grip clamps are good for that sort of thing. You'd probably want some of the 300mm size. Otherwise some F clamps of a similar size.
Cheers will check them out I see the irwin 300mm heavy duty ones at 21 quid look good and strong.

Maxf

8,411 posts

242 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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The skills on here are unbelievable! I'd be embarrassed to show pics of the cupboard and shelves I'm mid way through bodging! Hopefully the next project will get a bit better, and so on and so on...

gtidriver

3,362 posts

188 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Heres my contribution. Cutting/serving boards, I've been making these for a few months.

Edited by gtidriver on Tuesday 9th July 22:21

paulrockliffe

15,746 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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singlecoil said:
I thought this might be of interest to people familiar with the Festool MFT and track saw system.



I designed in Sketchup and had it CNC routered by Formatic in Reading. When it's finished I'll be able to cut 8 x 4 sheets into panels which are accurately sized and perfectly square.

It's made from 18m birch ply, best part of five sheets so probably around 170kg. but heavy is good with this sort of thing (unless you need it to be mobile, of course).

It would be perfectly feasible for somebody to have one of these in their garage if they were keen woodworkers and didn't need to park a car in there smile
That's cool, how much was it to have the bits machined? I don't do enough sheet goods stuff so it's of limited use to me, but if I did that would be really handy. I like that you've got the router in there too.

Reminds me of the Ron Paulk design (which would be a good fit for one of the people that replied) that knocks down for use on site or to hang off the garage wall. That one sits onto a pair of saw horses.

For castors generally, I used Castersonline for a couple of sets, but they were coming in at £30 a set for good ones and they were the cheapest I could find. Then I found the same ones on Amazon believe it or not, four x 100mm heavy duty wheels, 2 braked. £10 a set. I actually didn't think they'd deliver them, but they did, so I ordered 5 or 6 extra sets. They're from Coldene Castors and they look like they're still doing them for buttons.

I have all my kit on wheels, it makes such a difference to be able to move everything around.

singlecoil

33,858 posts

247 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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paulrockliffe said:
singlecoil said:
I thought this might be of interest to people familiar with the Festool MFT and track saw system.



I designed in Sketchup and had it CNC routered by Formatic in Reading. When it's finished I'll be able to cut 8 x 4 sheets into panels which are accurately sized and perfectly square.

It's made from 18m birch ply, best part of five sheets so probably around 170kg. but heavy is good with this sort of thing (unless you need it to be mobile, of course).

It would be perfectly feasible for somebody to have one of these in their garage if they were keen woodworkers and didn't need to park a car in there smile
That's cool, how much was it to have the bits machined? I don't do enough sheet goods stuff so it's of limited use to me, but if I did that would be really handy. I like that you've got the router in there too.

Reminds me of the Ron Paulk design (which would be a good fit for one of the people that replied) that knocks down for use on site or to hang off the garage wall. That one sits onto a pair of saw horses.

For castors generally, I used Castersonline for a couple of sets, but they were coming in at £30 a set for good ones and they were the cheapest I could find. Then I found the same ones on Amazon believe it or not, four x 100mm heavy duty wheels, 2 braked. £10 a set. I actually didn't think they'd deliver them, but they did, so I ordered 5 or 6 extra sets. They're from Coldene Castors and they look like they're still doing them for buttons.

I have all my kit on wheels, it makes such a difference to be able to move everything around.
It took 5 sheets of good quality 18mm birch ply and it was machined and delivered to e (about 40 miles from Reading) for £575. Which is quite a bargain IMO. I wanted it to be heavy (although I can still slide it around on my newly laid chipboard floor if I need to) because it won't move when I load it with a full sheet on my own. I also wanted it to be very rigid and pretty much flat.

I've designed some large drawers to go on the bottom shelf, I'll get those made when I get around to it.

Can you provide a link to the casters you mentioned please.

paulrockliffe

15,746 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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singlecoil said:
paulrockliffe said:
singlecoil said:
I thought this might be of interest to people familiar with the Festool MFT and track saw system.



I designed in Sketchup and had it CNC routered by Formatic in Reading. When it's finished I'll be able to cut 8 x 4 sheets into panels which are accurately sized and perfectly square.

It's made from 18m birch ply, best part of five sheets so probably around 170kg. but heavy is good with this sort of thing (unless you need it to be mobile, of course).

It would be perfectly feasible for somebody to have one of these in their garage if they were keen woodworkers and didn't need to park a car in there smile
That's cool, how much was it to have the bits machined? I don't do enough sheet goods stuff so it's of limited use to me, but if I did that would be really handy. I like that you've got the router in there too.

Reminds me of the Ron Paulk design (which would be a good fit for one of the people that replied) that knocks down for use on site or to hang off the garage wall. That one sits onto a pair of saw horses.

For castors generally, I used Castersonline for a couple of sets, but they were coming in at £30 a set for good ones and they were the cheapest I could find. Then I found the same ones on Amazon believe it or not, four x 100mm heavy duty wheels, 2 braked. £10 a set. I actually didn't think they'd deliver them, but they did, so I ordered 5 or 6 extra sets. They're from Coldene Castors and they look like they're still doing them for buttons.

I have all my kit on wheels, it makes such a difference to be able to move everything around.
It took 5 sheets of good quality 18mm birch ply and it was machined and delivered to e (about 40 miles from Reading) for £575. Which is quite a bargain IMO. I wanted it to be heavy (although I can still slide it around on my newly laid chipboard floor if I need to) because it won't move when I load it with a full sheet on my own. I also wanted it to be very rigid and pretty much flat.

I've designed some large drawers to go on the bottom shelf, I'll get those made when I get around to it.

Can you provide a link to the casters you mentioned please.
I actually have 5 sheets of birch ply in my workshop at the moment, nearly put my back out carrying them off the truck they came on, so I can imagine how heavy that bench must be. Not looking forward to carrying them up to my loft!

The castors were these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flight-Castors-Rubber-cas...

But looks like they've woken up as the price has gone way up!

That said, they have some 5" wheel ones for £20 that look the same and a few others that look quite decent for decent money. I destroyed one of the £8 a set ones moving my planer-thicknesser, but they're fine for bandsaws and the like.

ooid

4,135 posts

101 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Some serious woodwork here! Here is my small coffee table contribution biggrin