Drayton Wiser - Hints and Tips Thread

Drayton Wiser - Hints and Tips Thread

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Fore Left

1,429 posts

184 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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S6PNJ said:
Cheers for the heads-up - but only one per person (or is it per order?).
Oh, still better than nothing and £34.67 is still at least £10 cheaper than you'll get them anywhere else biggrin

Audis5b9

960 posts

74 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Fastdruid said:
Fore Left said:
Today Only. Wiser TRVs for £24.27

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/drayton-wiser-sma...

Fill yer boots thumbup
Nice. I've ordered one. Only one as need to apply the discount to get down to £24.27 and only one per customer.
How did you apply the voucher?

Ive clicked through the link to amazon, but its still £34.27

Audis5b9

960 posts

74 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Ive installed my wiser system today and have a couple of issues:

1. the override buttons on the hub (CH & HW) do not work
2. when the system is calling for heat, my boiler cycles on (1 min) and off (2 mins) constantly. It is set on the oil boiler, as that is what I have.

Any ideas how to resolve these?

B'stard Child

Original Poster:

28,510 posts

248 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Audis5b9 said:
Ive installed my wiser system today and have a couple of issues:

1. the override buttons on the hub (CH & HW) do not work
2. when the system is calling for heat, my boiler cycles on (1 min) and off (2 mins) constantly. It is set on the oil boiler, as that is what I have.

Any ideas how to resolve these?
What controls did you have before?

Audis5b9

960 posts

74 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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B'stard Child said:
What controls did you have before?
Just one wireless Drayton thermostat, which has been taken out of the system (I think!)

B'stard Child

Original Poster:

28,510 posts

248 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Audis5b9 said:
B'stard Child said:
What controls did you have before?
Just one wireless Drayton thermostat, which has been taken out of the system (I think!)
No timer controls?

What have you installed - Wiser and a room stat or have you added smart TRV’s on rads?

Audis5b9

960 posts

74 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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B'stard Child said:
Audis5b9 said:
B'stard Child said:
What controls did you have before?
Just one wireless Drayton thermostat, which has been taken out of the system (I think!)
No timer controls?

What have you installed - Wiser and a room stat or have you added smart TRV’s on rads?
Wiser hub, room stat and 8 smart TRVs on rads.

Just put the batteries back in the wireless thermostat and the override buttons now working. So clearly need to have another shot at removing that from the system.

Now testing the cycling issue, but suspect this is the issue causing the problem.

My FIL (Sparky) installed it, he wasn't entirely sure what he was doing with it, so will get him back to have another go at it. Any advice for identifying the wiring to remove / bypass from the system?

B'stard Child

Original Poster:

28,510 posts

248 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Audis5b9 said:
B'stard Child said:
Audis5b9 said:
B'stard Child said:
What controls did you have before?
Just one wireless Drayton thermostat, which has been taken out of the system (I think!)
No timer controls?

What have you installed - Wiser and a room stat or have you added smart TRV’s on rads?
Wiser hub, room stat and 8 smart TRVs on rads.

Just put the batteries back in the wireless thermostat and the override buttons now working. So clearly need to have another shot at removing that from the system.

Now testing the cycling issue, but suspect this is the issue causing the problem.

My FIL (Sparky) installed it, he wasn't entirely sure what he was doing with it, so will get him back to have another go at it. Any advice for identifying the wiring to remove / bypass from the system?
Where is the receiver for the wireless stat - I’d assume it was near the wiring centre?

Is the system S plan or Y plan (I’m assuming loft based CW store and gravity fed HW tank and CH header tank also in the loft?

Fastdruid

8,697 posts

154 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Audis5b9 said:
Fastdruid said:
Fore Left said:
Today Only. Wiser TRVs for £24.27

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/drayton-wiser-sma...

Fill yer boots thumbup
Nice. I've ordered one. Only one as need to apply the discount to get down to £24.27 and only one per customer.
How did you apply the voucher?

Ive clicked through the link to amazon, but its still £34.27
Add it to the basket and then when you go to check it out there is the option to redeem a 30% voucher.

Audis5b9

960 posts

74 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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B'stard Child said:
Where is the receiver for the wireless stat - I’d assume it was near the wiring centre?

Is the system S plan or Y plan (I’m assuming loft based CW store and gravity fed HW tank and CH header tank also in the loft?
Not sure what system we are on. whats the difference?

"I’m assuming loft based CW store and gravity fed HW tank and CH header tank also in the loft?" - the hot water tank is on the landing, plus tanks in the loft

Regbuser

3,744 posts

37 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Audis5b9 said:
Ive installed my wiser system today and have a couple of issues:

1. the override buttons on the hub (CH & HW) do not work
2. when the system is calling for heat, my boiler cycles on (1 min) and off (2 mins) constantly. It is set on the oil boiler, as that is what I have.

Any ideas how to resolve these?
Review potential wiring issues from page 2 of this very thread.

B'stard Child

Original Poster:

28,510 posts

248 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Audis5b9 said:
B'stard Child said:
Where is the receiver for the wireless stat - I’d assume it was near the wiring centre?

Is the system S plan or Y plan (I’m assuming loft based CW store and gravity fed HW tank and CH header tank also in the loft?
Not sure what system we are on. whats the difference?

"I’m assuming loft based CW store and gravity fed HW tank and CH header tank also in the loft?" - the hot water tank is on the landing, plus tanks in the loft
S Plan - two 2 port valves one for HW and one for CH

Y Plan - one 3 port valve that can do HW, HW and CH or CH only

Audis5b9

960 posts

74 months

Thursday 14th December 2023
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B'stard Child said:
S Plan - two 2 port valves one for HW and one for CH

Y Plan - one 3 port valve that can do HW, HW and CH or CH only
I have two zone valves by the boiler, so assume S plan.

dhutch

14,407 posts

199 months

Thursday 14th December 2023
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Audis5b9 said:
Fastdruid said:
Fore Left said:
Today Only. Wiser TRVs for £24.27

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/drayton-wiser-sma...

Fill yer boots thumbup
Nice. I've ordered one. Only one as need to apply the discount to get down to £24.27 and only one per customer.
How did you apply the voucher?

Ive clicked through the link to amazon, but its still £34.27
I get: Unfortunately, this deal has expired 17 hours ago.

dhutch

14,407 posts

199 months

Thursday 14th December 2023
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I was game for one, but broadly subscribe to the 'allow the system to se all the emitter area is has, as the house I broadly one thermal envelope' school of thought, even with our fairly leaky Edwardian semi.

Audis5b9

960 posts

74 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Audis5b9 said:
B'stard Child said:
What controls did you have before?
Just one wireless Drayton thermostat, which has been taken out of the system (I think!)
Old thermostat now properly removed from the system and it's all working well.

Very pleased with the system, simple to use and seems to be working ok for the past 24 hours.

Will keep an eye out for the smarts TRV's so I can put them on the remaining rads.

B'stard Child

Original Poster:

28,510 posts

248 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Audis5b9 said:
Audis5b9 said:
B'stard Child said:
What controls did you have before?
Just one wireless Drayton thermostat, which has been taken out of the system (I think!)
Old thermostat now properly removed from the system and it's all working well.

Very pleased with the system, simple to use and seems to be working ok for the past 24 hours.

Will keep an eye out for the smarts TRV's so I can put them on the remaining rads.
Depending on how you schedule your heating - on regular "timed cycles" or "24/7 with set backs day and night"

If the first then more TRV's would help but if the latter you might want to think about if you really need more "Smart" TRV's

I've taken 1 Smart TRV out of the system - it still reports temp of the room but no longer controls the room temp and I'm probably going to take out a few more if I go over to 24/7 with setbacks

V8covin

7,410 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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My room stat has decided to play silly buggers today.
The heating is set to come on at 18 degrees.
I'm thinking it feels cold in here,look at the app and it's showing 20.5 degrees.
So I get a regular thermometer and put it next to the Wiser room stat, it's showing 15.5 degrees .No wonder I feel cold .
Batteries are good, tried taking them out and refitting but makes no difference.
Is it kaput ?

AW10

4,444 posts

251 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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It’s worth checking the battery strength.

If the batteries are OK try a reset and recalibrate

Reset without losing pairing
  • Twist the cap to the plus '+' position and hold there for up to 10 seconds, until you see all 3 LEDs flashing. Before you finish, make sure the radiator thermostat is recalibrated (below)
Recalibrate
  • To recalibrate the radiator thermostat, twist the cap to the minus '-' position and hold there for up to 5 seconds, until you see a continuous blue LED

V8covin

7,410 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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AW10 said:
It’s worth checking the battery strength.

If the batteries are OK try a reset and recalibrate

Reset without losing pairing
  • Twist the cap to the plus '+' position and hold there for up to 10 seconds, until you see all 3 LEDs flashing. Before you finish, make sure the radiator thermostat is recalibrated (below)
Recalibrate
  • To recalibrate the radiator thermostat, twist the cap to the minus '-' position and hold there for up to 5 seconds, until you see a continuous blue LED
It's the room stat not the trv