Bathroom regrets

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227bhp

10,203 posts

130 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Harry Flashman said:
227bhp said:
Walk in shower on a timber upper floor? Not a good idea.
Depending on heated towel rail to warm bathroom enough in Winter, not a good idea either. Although the heated floor does do it I wish I'd put a rad in too.
These two work if you use a proper walk-in shower tray (showerlay or similar - not cheap, but very rigid), rather than relying on the builder to properly board the floor, and if you use a radiator/towel rail combo. Ours work fine this way.

We installed electric underfloor heating in all of our bathrooms, and really barely used it last winter. In the new houseew house we are (for cost and aesthetic reasons) keeping the wood floors, but draughtproofed and sealed with pine slivers before sanding, sealing and painting with oil based floor paint. Shower trays will be walk-ins using tiles showerlays and big glass screens. There still will have to be a slightly raised water barrier around the shower tray. A low rise white shower tray would have done this job as they are designed for it, but we wanted the aesthetic of tiled shower enclosures (walls and floors)

Heating will be from those Victorian style radiator/towel rail things (big bathrooms will have a big vertical rad instead).
It is a proper tray, and supported underneath with extra joists, it still flexed and the tiles cracked/came loose and it leaks. I just think its asking for trouble on a floor (timber) which can move and wouldn't bother again, I would put one on a concrete floor.
The problem with EUF is it takes hours to get up to temp, so if you only need it once or twice a day for a short period it isn't great.

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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TeeRev said:
Can you tell me what range of Ideal Standard it was please? My wife is looking at wall hung toilets from them for our new penthouse build project next year and I'd hate to have three loos not flushing properly.
Buy a rimless WC. They flush much better.

JXN1990

43 posts

134 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Don't tile in your bath.

On that note, if anyone knows a good way to remove the side of a tiled in bath, it'd be appreciated.

Andehh

7,123 posts

208 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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JXN1990 said:
Don't tile in your bath.

On that note, if anyone knows a good way to remove the side of a tiled in bath, it'd be appreciated.
Cut through the neighbouring wall? I would only do a tiled bath panel if you are putting it alongside a hollow/study wall. That being said, how often do people really take the bath panel off!?

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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silentbrown said:
Just two things I can think of:

Don't put fancy modern taps on an upstairs bathroom if you only have gravity feed from the loft. The flow is abysmal.

Don't put a freestanding bath in unless you can actually walk all around it. Otherwise it's just a waste of space and you can never clean behind it!
For a mono basin or bath tap on gravity systems make sure they are marked as LP1 (low pressure 1) and NOT MP or HP as this is the biggest mistake people make when buying a tap for a gravity system which has a pressure rating it is not actually designed for. Flow on any mono tap will be reduced as opposed to a pair of taps anyway. Avoid Grohe as they are nearly all HP (the continent use HP).

Good point on a freestanding bath, they are supposed to sit where you can walk around it in a larger than normal bathroom.

mcg_

1,445 posts

94 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Don't get a steel bath, the middle sags.

We got on as I thought it would be in keeping with it being an old house. Ideally it could do with being replaced now.

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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mcg_ said:
Don't get a steel bath, the middle sags.
Not if you buy a good one like Bette or Kaldewei.

Accelebrate

5,253 posts

217 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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IJB1959 said:
TeeRev said:
Can you tell me what range of Ideal Standard it was please? My wife is looking at wall hung toilets from them for our new penthouse build project next year and I'd hate to have three loos not flushing properly.
Buy a rimless WC. They flush much better.
It's not necessarily just down to the pan design, I inadvertently created a similar issue in a 60's flat that a renovated by adding a curved waste fitting to get a modern toilet connected to a soil pipe that was nowhere near the wall.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Gtom said:
The shower pump,
This is the one thing that i think cocks many bathrooms up these days.

These bloody things are so infuriatingly annoying and bloody loud that they can ruin hoses and any guests visit.

You've had a great night and then on the Sunday you wake up to the sound of a fking hydro electric power station refilling the top basin and splitting your head open as your host has an nice long shower to wash the cobwebs out.
Someone will make a fortune out of designing small, cheap and quiet versions of these infernal contraptions.

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Accelebrate said:
It's not necessarily just down to the pan design, I inadvertently created a similar issue in a 60's flat that a renovated by adding a curved waste fitting to get a modern toilet connected to a soil pipe that was nowhere near the wall.
Inappropriate plumbing situations can certainly exacerbate the issue as well.

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Rude-boy said:
This is the one thing that i think cocks many bathrooms up these days.

These bloody things are so infuriatingly annoying and bloody loud that they can ruin hoses and any guests visit.

You've had a great night and then on the Sunday you wake up to the sound of a fking hydro electric power station refilling the top basin and splitting your head open as your host has an nice long shower to wash the cobwebs out.
Someone will make a fortune out of designing small, cheap and quiet versions of these infernal contraptions.
A Stuart Tuner pump then......

wilksy61

384 posts

118 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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It may be worth looking at a mains pressure hot water system, it was the best thing I did, then you don't need a Stuart pump

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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wilksy61 said:
It may be worth looking at a mains pressure hot water system, it was the best thing I did, then you don't need a Stuart pump
Only OK if your cold water supply is mains fed as well. A combi or Megaflow is the best solution (a costly conversion though), so if it has to be pumped rather than converting to a HP system, then a replacement ST pump is the simplest and cheapest option of the three. This is assuming you would require a plumber to convert your current system to HP hot & cold.

mcg_

1,445 posts

94 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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IJB1959 said:
mcg_ said:
Don't get a steel bath, the middle sags.
Not if you buy a good one like Bette or Kaldewei.
Yeaaaah it was a cheap one from Victorian plumbing to be fair!

Second thing I'll add - Spend as much as your can on the bathroom fixtures. We spent 1500 on it all from victoria plumbing (shower over bath), some stuff isn't great.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

234 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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richatnort said:
As much as I like the idea of UFH it's probably not going happy due to cost and the floor isn't going to be tiled it's getting this glue together laminate flooring so shouldn't be too cold under foot.
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I was about to post this as my biggest regret when we did a refurb.
I got karndean fake tiles instead and have hated it ever since. Agree that you avoid the cold, and it looks fine but it feels so wrong.
I hate it every single day and it didn't cost far off the tiling.

The second big mistake I made was getting a second rate tiler (not deliberately obviously). The whol bathroom was really expensive but the finish was just not good hence it looks cheap.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

249 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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You can get a 2m2 underfloor heating kit for around £50. Complete no brainer.

spitfire-ian

3,848 posts

230 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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IJB1959 said:
richatnort said:
Are there any decent brands / shops I should look for a mirror it's seems like this is something I should get now but don't know how much I should pay for one.
https://www.hib.co.uk/ not cheap, but quality is spot on.
Having just redone our bathroom and fitted one of their mirrored cabinets with a light and shaver socket and it really is good. As mentioned above though, not cheap

Harry Flashman

19,462 posts

244 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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As someone else said, get a good mirror cabinet - pay the money. My one bathroom regret is a single cheap ebay one, and it's not great. Pay double, get a good one.

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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B17NNS said:
You can get a 2m2 underfloor heating kit for around £50. Complete no brainer.
Noooooo, it won't last. Buy cheap buy twice!! Once installed, just think of the grief trying to change it PLUS a new floor.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

249 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Noooooo, it won't last. Buy cheap buy twice!! Once installed, just think of the grief trying to change it PLUS a new floor.
Okay, spend £100 and get Warmup with a lifetime guarantee. Still a cheap as chips way to add a little luxury.