Drill / Driver for Home Use

[dickymint]

imck said:

Use Einhell 12V Drivers at work - Electronic Repair.
Get a lot of use and perform well. Had 5 of them for a Year or two.

Feel decent and no problems with them

I've had a closer look and to be fair from what i've now read that deal does suggest very good value for money - i'd put them at high end DIY stuff if that makes sense. Wouldn't try to talk you out of them if price is a concern.

[TheAngryDog]

Price isn't a major concern, getting value for money is. It is a toss up between these or erbauer. And I don't have long to decide!

[JuanCarlosFandango]

I think you'll find that there isn't much to choose between the better models of the known brands, so maybe just go and have a look to see if one stands out as more to your tastes. Milwaukee, Dewalt and Makita always seem to come out especially well.

Only other consideration for me is that Dewalt batteries seem pretty well universal so if I want an angle grinder or reciprocating saw I can use the same batteries and chargers, and the fitting seems to have been the same for years so there is no issue with getting replacement batteries or chargers. Not sure if this is the same across all brands.

[TheAngryDog]

I'm not a heavy user of power tools so tbh something semi decent that won't break at the first or twelfth time of asking.

[InitialDave]

Coincidence, I justy mentioned in the Prime Day thread, these are good:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Cordless-Combi-Lith...

[TheAngryDog]

I was under the impression that 1.5ah was too low?

[InitialDave]

I've never had an issue with them in the drill (and you get two of them).

Using them in some compatible stuff (specifically the reciprocating saw) chewed through them too fast to be useful, but I find they last ok in the drill, and I'm often using it for things like de-rusting stuff with a wire wheel.

[TheAngryDog]

I decided against the Einhell kit, the reviews didn't fill me with confidence. That and the fact they are giving them away to every YouTuber and their dog makes me a bit suss.

[dickymint]

TheAngryDog said:

I decided against the Einhell kit, the reviews didn't fill me with confidence. That and the fact they are giving them away to every YouTuber and their dog makes me a bit suss.

Makita it is then



LXT and brushless of course.

[PAT64]

InitialDave said:

Coincidence, I justy mentioned in the Prime Day thread, these are good:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Cordless-Combi-Lith...

There cheap for a reason as I am finding out sadly, check page 1s Uncle pat review he mentioned his had a wobble chuck. I have the professional version of this and it too has an wobble chuck issue its not bad, but even the pro version its powerful for general stuff but you would certainly fair better with the ones that are brush-less motor and metal chuck and higher level drills £150-200+ although on 2nd page someone posted this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01GJ5DZWY/ref...

I am quickly finding out wish I got an stronger and lighter impact and perhaps a separate masonry drill for brick/stone and wall since hammer modes aren't doing anything on my bosch or most similar cordless or combis it appears.

[PAT64]

Actually can an impact driver replace a combi ?

Don't tell me I need a combi and impact and then sds for masonry

[Engelberger]

PAT64 said:

Don't tell me I need a combi and impact and then sds for masonry

You need a combi, impact and then sds for masonary.

It is like hifi - buy seperates as they are designed specifically to a role. You can buy a Matsui "hifi" unit but it will sound crap.

[InitialDave]

PAT64 said:

There cheap for a reason as I am finding out sadly, check page 1s Uncle pat review he mentioned his had a wobble chuck.

Well, fair enough, but I've had mine for a couple of years and I've not had a problem with it, nor has a friend with the same one, and I'd have thought the kind of side-loading I regularly put on it with wire wheels etc would be particularly bad for it.

Maybe I've just been lucky.

[felixgogo]

Bosch Blue - Combi Drill Driver with hammer function for masonry.

99 quid - very powerful and will do it all.

https://www.campbellmillertools.co.uk/power-tools/...

Then later - you add an SDS drill for the heavy stuff

Edited by felixgogo on Wednesday 17th July 04:01

[bakerstreet]

Shominy said:

I have seen this said a few times in various places regarding the cheapness of Ryobi when compared to DeWalt/Makita etc. and I've never really noticed a massive difference in price, say if the Makita is £100 the Ryobi might be £80. Is there somewhere everyone else gets their Ryobi gear from where I'm not looking?

Possibly my comparrisons are a little limited.

Makita LXT 18v Jigsaw is £110
Ryobi 18V Jigsaw is £63

However, when I was looking at the Makita 18v LXT jigsaw it was about £130, so they have clearly dropped the prices. Annoying as I bought the old style 10.8v Li-Ion Jigsaw for £70

Makita 18v Angle Griinder is £100 and the Ryobi is £65. Same sort of prices for the Multi Tool. I recon you will find those differences will be similar across the entire range.

Anyways, I wish I had gone down the Ryobi path years ago. Saying that I have been very impressed with my Makita stuff. My old Ni-Cad 12v stuff is about 13 years old and still going strong.

[PAT64]

Engelberger said:

You need a combi, impact and then sds for masonary.

It is like hifi - buy seperates as they are designed specifically to a role. You can buy a Matsui "hifi" unit but it will sound crap.

ahh was wondering why no one just gets an impact and masonary drill, quick googling and it says impacts are more for doing larger scews and combis smaller ones.

[PAT64]

InitialDave said:

Well, fair enough, but I've had mine for a couple of years and I've not had a problem with it, nor has a friend with the same one, and I'd have thought the kind of side-loading I regularly put on it with wire wheels etc would be particularly bad for it.

Maybe I've just been lucky.

I think its fine for causal DIY stuff around the home and garden, I actually like bosch brand too.

I think like said above you have combis, impacts and sds/masonary, almost 3 different sets for 3 different things, well Engel above said it best when you want quality you buy 3 separate hi-fi units, not the alba hifi.

I only noticed how weak my professional bosch unit was when I tried to drill a masonry bit into a concrete post and it went no where frankly, I may have better joy with better masonry drill bits from bosch/dewalt range or like many said require a sds drill.

[dickymint]

PAT64 said:

Engelberger said:

You need a combi, impact and then sds for masonary.

It is like hifi - buy seperates as they are designed specifically to a role. You can buy a Matsui "hifi" unit but it will sound crap.

ahh was wondering why no one just gets an impact and masonary drill, quick googling and it says impacts are more for doing larger scews and combis smaller ones.

Not so - my Makita impact has four settings including one for Tek Screws .....




If I can get to it it will screw it

[InitialDave]

PAT64 said:

I think its fine for causal DIY stuff around the home and garden, I actually like bosch brand too.

I wouldn't say it's used lightly, but I guess a difference is I'm more using it for car related stuff, so rarely use the hammer function for masonry etc.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

I think for concrete or any heavy masonry work you're going to want a plug in SDS. I borrowed a very nifty battery SDS once which was great but still chewed batteries and lacked the oomph of the mid range 800w Hitachi plug in I ended up buying.