The what does a kitchen cost thread!?

The what does a kitchen cost thread!?

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C Lee Farquar

4,078 posts

217 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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jason61c said:
i'd love to see dovetail joints
There's a Company near me, Probox, who make dovetailed drawers, made to measure and quite reasonable. You can price and order online.




lewisf182

2,091 posts

189 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Interesting thread this. Extremely surprised at some of the costs people are throwing around especially to the OP’s render given theres not actually that many units really?

Im currently trying to build my kitchen on diy kitchens as having seen their showroom it looks vastly better quality than magnet/wren/howdens etc.

covmutley

3,043 posts

191 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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As this thread shows, the answer is, as mu h or as little as you want to spend. You could do it for less than 10k, you could spend 50k. My brother spent the higher amount, but then they have 2 dishwashers, 4 ovens, food waste macerator, boiling water tank, 200 wine bottle chiller etc.

As with everything, diminishing returns applies.

All I know is that you can easily get ripped off. Last kitchen I did magnet quoted 18k, but with their xmas 50% sale it went down to 13k. In the end I got them down to 8k. Went with another kitchen anyway, but they will gladly take your money if you want.

singlecoil

33,895 posts

247 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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lewisf182 said:
Interesting thread this. Extremely surprised at some of the costs people are throwing around especially to the OP’s render given theres not actually that many units really?

Im currently trying to build my kitchen on diy kitchens as having seen their showroom it looks vastly better quality than magnet/wren/howdens etc.
If you were thinking conventional (not framed etc) painted Shaker then I'm always happy to quote against DIY Kitchens. Individual units will be a bit more expensive than their equivalent Linwood Bespoke Painted but the overall project should be similar in price.

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

131 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Kitchens are one of those things you don’t expect to be expensive but are

I have a magnet trade kitchen in my flat, after I moved in I added a 500mm larder and intergrated door for washing machine. The parts cost me £650 and that was half price! Full price was £1300 for a bloody larder! And if you wanted a 600mm one it was £550 half price! Even at half price their inflated prices are stupid

Stupid money for some laminated chipboard. It’s not even very good quality so I dread to think what a decent kitchen costs

The fitting is a joke too, for that simple cabinet which is just 5 shelf’s inside they quoted me 2 days labour at £800!

£2000 for a bloody cupboard! I found my own kitchen fitter and it cost £100 for the day

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

131 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Also, looking at your design why are you spending so much money and not having a eye level oven? I would ditch cabinet next to the aga and have that as a eye level oven/microwave maybe wine fridge space, or a intergrated fridge freezer as that’s not in your design as I can see?

Agree with the comments about the aga. That space would look better with a wood burner in

jason61c

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5,978 posts

175 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Nickbrapp said:
Also, looking at your design why are you spending so much money and not having a eye level oven? I would ditch cabinet next to the aga and have that as a eye level oven/microwave maybe wine fridge space, or a intergrated fridge freezer as that’s not in your design as I can see?

Agree with the comments about the aga. That space would look better with a wood burner in
I've a wood burner in the room next to it.
I have thought about having a built in oven in there though. it would look odd though next to the aga/esse/range thing.

BaldOldMan

4,685 posts

65 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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Once you've found the right cabinets, you need to have a proper look at the layout as that one seems really poor IMHO.

Think about preparing food where are you planning to do that - you've got your fridge about as far away from your sink as possible.

Think about cooking - you've got 2 separate places - again about as far away from each other as possible.

Ziplobb

1,370 posts

285 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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Bin the Aga and replace it with an Everhot. Far better thing that you will use all the time.

jason61c

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5,978 posts

175 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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BaldOldMan said:
Once you've found the right cabinets, you need to have a proper look at the layout as that one seems really poor IMHO.

Think about preparing food where are you planning to do that - you've got your fridge about as far away from your sink as possible.

More than happy for someone to put something smarter together ??

Think about cooking - you've got 2 separate places - again about as far away from each other as possible.
The fridge and larder unit are all next to each other, the aga type thing is occasional use only. Where the small oven is, food prep will be done on the island.- right next to it. We’ve a dining room that we’ll still use.

More than happy for someone to come up with a better layout, it’s an odd shaped room though

RichB

51,782 posts

285 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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BaldOldMan said:
Once you've found the right cabinets, you need to have a proper look at the layout as that one seems really poor IMHO.

Think about preparing food where are you planning to do that - you've got your fridge about as far away from your sink as possible.

Think about cooking - you've got 2 separate places - again about as far away from each other as possible.
This is true, think about taking hot pans off the hop, like pasta and veg, to drain, you've got the hob much too far away from the sink. I think the designers call it the working triangle fridge, hob, sink. You 've got them flung to the far corners.

hotchy

4,493 posts

127 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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Still cant believe the price for a kitchen. £2000 for a larder!?! The same essential bit of wood that your single bedroom cuboard is that costs £100 with a fancy door on and a "larder" tag put on. There is the door. Goodbye. If everyone refused to pay it, the price would miraculously drop to sensible affordable levels. Nope, everyone just pays the cheap £300 a month for life instead.

singlecoil

33,895 posts

247 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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jason61c said:
More than happy for someone to come up with a better layout, it’s an odd shaped room though
Having a go at that now, I'll post something later this morning.

PositronicRay

27,109 posts

184 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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singlecoil said:
jason61c said:
More than happy for someone to come up with a better layout, it’s an odd shaped room though
Having a go at that now, I'll post something later this morning.
I'd go with this, if doing it again I'd make our kitchen was smaller, constantly wandering about with stuff.

jason61c

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5,978 posts

175 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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hotchy said:
Still cant believe the price for a kitchen. £2000 for a larder!?! The same essential bit of wood that your single bedroom cuboard is that costs £100 with a fancy door on and a "larder" tag put on. There is the door. Goodbye. If everyone refused to pay it, the price would miraculously drop to sensible affordable levels. Nope, everyone just pays the cheap £300 a month for life instead.
Good rant. Have you seen a nicely built larder unit? not quite a single bedroom cupboard.

jason61c

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5,978 posts

175 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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Ziplobb said:
Bin the Aga and replace it with an Everhot. Far better thing that you will use all the time.
I've a nice oil fired esse that cost £200. I'd like an everhot but my mrs doesn't like the shape and I don't like the 10k cost smile

BaldOldMan

4,685 posts

65 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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Think zones and how you're going to use the space.

Where will you prepare food - where is that food stored prior to prep - proximity to sink & bin

Cooking and transition from prep area to cooking

Dishing up & places for hot pans, baking trays etc. draining and transition to washing up

Will you have people sitting at the island whilst you're preparing and/or cooking food. How many people are likely to be involved in the cooking & is there space to coexist amicably ?

Work through the flow of how you will use it & it will help tweak where things go.

jason61c

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5,978 posts

175 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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RichB said:
This is true, think about taking hot pans off the hop, like pasta and veg, to drain, you've got the hob much too far away from the sink. I think the designers call it the working triangle fridge, hob, sink. You 've got them flung to the far corners.
food prep/sink/main oven are all in a triangle, you just need to walk to get the food items together. Its the crux of an old house where things can't be perfect in a modern sense. it does mean that when you walk in the house with food shopping you stop at one point to unload.

joshcowin

6,817 posts

177 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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lewisf182 said:
Interesting thread this. Extremely surprised at some of the costs people are throwing around especially to the OP’s render given theres not actually that many units really?

Im currently trying to build my kitchen on diy kitchens as having seen their showroom it looks vastly better quality than magnet/wren/howdens etc.
Just catching up, so sorry if this has been said!

They are all pretty similar tbh! I wouldnt say one is better than the other! Wren are good for the fitter as everything comes numbered and all positions are marked on the drawing and unit/box.

I would buy whatever is the best deal at the time!

BaldOldMan

4,685 posts

65 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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jason61c said:
it does mean that when you walk in the house with food shopping you stop at one point to unload.
You have an island - that is where you will unload the food shopping - you'll walk in & all bags will go on there, get emptied & then you will put it away.