A double garage build thread - but not a double garage!

A double garage build thread - but not a double garage!

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TriumphStag3.0V8

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Friday 15th July 2022
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RicksAlfas said:
If I had a garage that big with running water and a loo, I'd never go in the house!
Looks great OP. I also like the original "tunnel" garage too. biggrin
Me too, and if I am honest, that is probably one of the reasons Mrs Stag was happy for me to build it laugh


paulrockliffe said:
Great thread, looking forward to it. Two questions; why didn't you build right up to the boundary and will it be uninsulated when it's finished?
I thought I had built it up to the boundary biggrin it is only a ft/30 cm from the fence and with the foundations really couldn't get any closer. I did not want to have the wall of the garage as the boundary as I wanted to keep the fenceline along the alleyway.

It will be insulated.

nunpuncher said:
My newly built sectional double+ looks pathetic next to this.

11m across at the front, what's the depth? And is the bay on the far left going to be deep enough to get anything more than a smart for2 in?

Interested to see how it pans out as like myself, it sounds like you actually like to get oily in your garage unlike the usual PistonHeads operating theatre garage.
biggrin a double is still good, especially if you use it. Before building this I would have been well happy with a double.

Depth wise, the main garage area is also 11m, the toilet/storage room at the back adds another 2.5m - taking it to 13.5m deep on that side. The smallest bay at the front is actually 5m deep so should still be useable for a decent sized car.

And yes, I do get oily (see my Rover thread for examples) - but once it is all done I am going to * try * to keep it clean and tidy biggrin

Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Friday 15th July 13:40

TriumphStag3.0V8

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It's now the middle of May and some steelwork arrives. After several weeks of nothing obvious happening, it is good to see things moving again.

The structural engineer had designed the roof with 3 piers, which is what building control then signed off, so is what we had to build.









In the above pic, the scaffolders have come back, and installed a raised floor so that work on the roof can commence



At this point the next Covid supply chain issue hits.... "Can't get the wood for the roof."

What I suspect he meant was "Can't get the wood for the roof for the amount I want to pay for it, and I have another job to go to, bye"

So I spend some time up there over the next couple of weeks putting red oxide on the bits they missed whilst I waited...

pti

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Friday 15th July 2022
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This is excellent cool

Shnozz

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273 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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pti said:
This is excellent cool
Agreed. Love it when the plot/shape isn’t the usual rectangle too.

TriumphStag3.0V8

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Saturday 16th July 2022
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Taking a break from working on the Rover (it is hot out there) so thought I would write the next installment.


Weeks pass (We are now into July) and some wood turns up. 2 lorry-loads biggrin, just unloading that and taking it to the garage took the labourers most of the day.

Followed (the next day) by some chippies. They look at the steel frame, swear, look at the plans, swear some more, ask to see the model, look at that, look at each other, then look at their van and contemplate going home.

Fortunately they then look at the building and say (direct quote) "No fking architect has beaten us yet" and up the scaffolding they go.

Wall plates go on, as well as an outline around the steels



By the end of day 1, all of the steel framing and wall plates are in.

By the end of day 2, we have most of the front elevation



And in a masterpiece of forward planning which I was unsure that my builder was capable of, some roof tiles have arrived (See pic above).

Day 3 and the long side is pretty much done



Things now slow down and the amount of swearing increases as they start to get to grips with the "flat" roof section at the back.



I say "flat" as it still has a decent slope to it, but not enough to be tiled. This will be done with one of those fancy new rubber roof membranes.

From inside, it is an impressive sight:





At this point the chippies are looking quite pleased with themselves and finish off by putting on the barge boards and soffits.



It has taken them two weeks to do the roof structure, which I felt at the time was pretty impressive (and still do).

Excellent. Roof timbers are on, and we have the tiles, so now the roofers can come and put a roof on it, right? right? Well, no apparently. Due to how long it has taken to get the wood, the roofers are now off on another (massive allegedly) job and we will have to wait for them to finish that. frown

More waiting around..... We are now approaching 3 months past the original completion date frown ho humm

Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Saturday 16th July 13:53

hidetheelephants

25,353 posts

195 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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That is a monumental erection. Much envy.

bobtail4x4

3,740 posts

111 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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I said the chippies would hate it,
architects draw pretty plans but often they are unbuildable.

Promised Land

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211 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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bobtail4x4 said:
I said the chippies would hate it,
architects draw pretty plans but often they are unbuildable.
Been putting roofs on all my life, on big projects like apartments the drawing can just have sections with a cloud drawn and inside it says ‘cut roof’, we have had that before. National house builder as well.

Oddly enough the site manager/ contracts managers stay out of your way then as they have not got a scooby unless they had a joinery background and you just cut the roof how you’d expect it and so the roofer can tile it.

Cracking garage build though.

TriumphStag3.0V8

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Sunday 17th July 2022
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bobtail4x4 said:
I said the chippies would hate it,
architects draw pretty plans but often they are unbuildable.
biggrin In all fairness to them, they were pretty happy all the time they were doing it. They both seemed to love what they were doing and did it quick. Fair play to them.


Promised Land said:
Been putting roofs on all my life, on big projects like apartments the drawing can just have sections with a cloud drawn and inside it says ‘cut roof’, we have had that before. National house builder as well.

Oddly enough the site manager/ contracts managers stay out of your way then as they have not got a scooby unless they had a joinery background and you just cut the roof how you’d expect it and so the roofer can tile it.
put roof here laugh

Promised Land said:
Cracking garage build though.
Thanks biggrin

TriumphStag3.0V8

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Sunday 17th July 2022
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A month has passed and we are now towards the back end of August. Nothing has happened, so I go and buy a Mini Cooper to cheer myself up.

(needed to scratch the itch as I cannot rebuild the engine on my Cooper S until the sodding garage is built....)


Then I get an email from the builder saying "we will be with you tomorrow"

woohoo

They turn up as promised. The roofers ask the builder where the membrane and battens are..... FFS... punch

Off he goes to get some, whilst the roofers start unpacking the tiles from the pallets and taking them up the scaffolding.

Couple of hours later, the builder returns with some battens and a few rolls of membrane - several different rolls, making it look like a patchwork quilt, but then again, won't be able to see it when it is all done.





Whilst I was up there taking photos... I noted the six months growth back here....


And the fact they still haven't replaced the fence... furious

The roofers crack on though...





Velux windows go in


Ha ha - good luck chaps


"No problem" they say....


We have a roof. Finally, the building is watertight (according to the stage payment invoice), well apart from the three big holes at the front, where doors should be, the two big holes at the side where there should be a door and a window and the other two holes at the back where there should be another door and a window, but yes, water-tight, sort of biggrin

and with that, the external scaffolding can come down



Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Sunday 17th July 21:47

TriumphStag3.0V8

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Sunday 17th July 2022
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Next up, the electricians come and do the first fix electrics. Takes them 2 days and for some reason I start thinking that we are on a roll. This was stupid of me, because we weren't.

After the electricians left, nothing happened for two and a half months!!!!! TWO AND A HALF MONTHS!!!!!

Well, I say nothing happened.

My truck blew its radiator





Then the mini blew the most difficult to get to coolant hose it had



Then someone crashed into the back of my brother's car (according to the insurance company that is £2,500 worth of damage)



(Honestly I am starting to think at this point that the builder may have made a voodoo doll)


Next, My friend bought a very small tractor



And I planned a ski trip for January to cheer myself up.



Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Monday 18th July 11:53

mikeiow

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132 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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Heh heh!
Ski trips are always good to plan 😎👍

Quhet

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148 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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Excellent build, really enjoying following the progress of this. Without wanting any detailed spoilers assume you're in and tinkering now with it all done?

mikeiow

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132 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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Quhet said:
Excellent build, really enjoying following the progress of this. Without wanting any detailed spoilers assume you're in and tinkering now with it all done?
Hey: no spoilers, it’s all about the journey!!

mikeiow

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132 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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Heh heh!
Ski trips are always good to plan!

Edited by mikeiow on Monday 18th July 05:36

eltax91

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208 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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With all that trailer manoeuvring through a garage and around some tight spots, you need one of these. Game changer!


TriumphStag3.0V8

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Monday 18th July 2022
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mikeiow said:
Heh heh!
Ski trips are always good to plan ????
Indeed biggrin - Almost as much fun as going on them!

Quhet said:
Excellent build, really enjoying following the progress of this. Without wanting any detailed spoilers assume you're in and tinkering now with it all done?
I would like to tell you..... but.......

mikeiow said:
Hey: no spoilers, it’s all about the journey!!
hehe

TriumphStag3.0V8

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Monday 18th July 2022
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eltax91 said:
With all that trailer manoeuvring through a garage and around some tight spots, you need one of these. Game changer!

Ah yes, front towbar. Very good for this kind of thing. Not sure i can fit one to the front of a Cayenne though smile I actually fitted caravan mover motors to the trailer so it is now a giant (very slow) remote control toy :-)

eltax91

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Monday 18th July 2022
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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
eltax91 said:
With all that trailer manoeuvring through a garage and around some tight spots, you need one of these. Game changer!

Ah yes, front towbar. Very good for this kind of thing. Not sure i can fit one to the front of a Cayenne though smile I actually fitted caravan mover motors to the trailer so it is now a giant (very slow) remote control toy :-)
Wasn't sure i would be able to with the Disco4, but found some convenient pickup points on the chassis and had it custom made from box section. With the ball being of 10mm smaller box with a pin to make it all removable. It's most definitely not manufaturer fit, but it does the job remarkably

TriumphStag3.0V8

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Tuesday 19th July 2022
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eltax91 said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
eltax91 said:
With all that trailer manoeuvring through a garage and around some tight spots, you need one of these. Game changer!

Ah yes, front towbar. Very good for this kind of thing. Not sure i can fit one to the front of a Cayenne though smile I actually fitted caravan mover motors to the trailer so it is now a giant (very slow) remote control toy :-)
Wasn't sure i would be able to with the Disco4, but found some convenient pickup points on the chassis and had it custom made from box section. With the ball being of 10mm smaller box with a pin to make it all removable. It's most definitely not manufaturer fit, but it does the job remarkably
Hmmmm, now you are giving me ideas......