Neighbour wanting a front extension, not pleased.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

Equus said:

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

His latest proposal will still see him well over 3ms,

One thing to bear in mind is that Planners should (though I acknowledge that not all do) be assessing any planning application for an extension in terms of the additional harm (if any) above what would be allowed as Permitted Development.

Therefore if it only needs Planning Permission because it is wider than would be allowed as PD, they should be looking at the issue of proximity to your boundary/door by thinking 'how overbearing would a narrower PD porch that close to the boundary be, and is this any worse in that respect?'.

Good to know, cheers. We still consider that there is a moderate chance of refusal, even without us objecting. With a bog and on the boundary we had considered this high, but as we couldn't guarantee it was essential to object.

[anonymous-user]

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Good to know, cheers. We still consider that there is a moderate chance of refusal, even without us objecting. With a bog and on the boundary we had considered this high, but as we couldn't guarantee it was essential to object.

Would having a toilet on the boundary be a relevant factor in the decision?

[Equus]

desolate said:

Would having a toilet on the boundary be a relevant factor in the decision?

Nope, not even slightly.

[DonkeyApple]

Would two porches, needing planning permission have to have some kind of workable gap between them if they aren’t abutted?

If so, could the OP simultaneously apply for planning for a porch as a means to ensure the neighbours porch doesn’t come right up to the boundary?

[dickymint]

desolate said:

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Good to know, cheers. We still consider that there is a moderate chance of refusal, even without us objecting. With a bog and on the boundary we had considered this high, but as we couldn't guarantee it was essential to object.

Would having a toilet on the boundary be a relevant factor in the decision?

Shouldn’t be a factor for any reason. What and where a toilet is positioned indoors is nobody’s business (building regs aside). Why anybody would be concerned about it beggars belief!

It’s not as though it’s a public toilet in constant use and not cleaned out regularly. Doubt if it got used at all for a number 2

[Equus]

DonkeyApple said:

Would two porches, needing planning permission have to have some kind of workable gap between them if they aren’t abutted?

No.

[anonymous-user]

Is it just me or is it unwise to be sharing so much information on a public forum? There’s pictures of the op and his Mrs, plans of the neighbour’s extension, maps showing where you live, photos of inside and outside of your house, pictures of the neighbours houses, and the rest of the street. Loads of negative comments by the OP about the neighbour and what you’re planning and negative comments from posters about other homes in the street.

I know everyone has different concepts of privacy etc but it seems it’s not going to lead to good relations with your neighbour or other people in the street, if he or they read it. It’s a massive open forum and everyone involved is easily identifiable.

Perhaps it’s just me, but usually these threads about disputes wisely don’t show addresses and who the poster is etc or a fraction of the information on this thread.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

Equus said:

desolate said:

Would having a toilet on the boundary be a relevant factor in the decision?

Nope, not even slightly.

Really, a toilet next door to our front door behind a wooden structure. Greeting a guest 'oh don't worry about the grunting and the stink, that's just the neighbour squeezing one out'

Would anyone be happy about that?

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

DonkeyApple said:

Would two porches, needing planning permission have to have some kind of workable gap between them if they aren’t abutted?

If so, could the OP simultaneously apply for planning for a porch as a means to ensure the neighbours porch doesn’t come right up to the boundary?

We're not interested in a porch at all.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

El stovey said:

Is it just me or is it unwise to be sharing so much information on a public forum? There’s pictures of the op and his Mrs, plans of the neighbour’s extension, maps showing where you live, photos of inside and outside of your house, pictures of the neighbours houses, and the rest of the street. Loads of negative comments by the OP about the neighbour and what you’re planning and negative comments from posters about other homes in the street.

I know everyone has different concepts of privacy etc but it seems it’s not going to lead to good relations with your neighbour or other people in the street, if he or they read it. It’s a massive open forum and everyone involved is easily identifiable.

Perhaps it’s just me, but usually these threads about disputes wisely don’t show addresses and who the poster is etc or a fraction of the information on this thread.

Anything I've said about the neighbour is factual and I can't recall slagging him off, further than stating we feel he's a bit selfish about how he's going about it. Anybody can find out where I live easily enough, and anybody would then be free to comment about our road or house. Further than questioning boundary positions, and the number of porches up the road there haven't exactly been any negative comments.

[DonkeyApple]

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Really, a toilet next door to our front door behind a wooden structure. Greeting a guest 'oh don't worry about the grunting and the stink, that's just the neighbour squeezing one out'

Would anyone be happy about that?

I would think that you have some kind of argument with regards to extraction as he wants it to be a kazi?

Is there any kind of case to argue that it cannot be a toilet?

[CAPP0]

Is it just me , or has the thread gone from starting out at "bd neighbour, how effin dare he, we're going to shred him over this" through "hmm, he's not so bad, and if he changes it a bit we'll fine with it" and will probably end up with a picture of Sexy Sarah serving tea all round whilst the OP does the lion's share of the neighbour's actual building work for him?

[anonymous-user]

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Anything I've said about the neighbour is factual and I can't recall slagging him off, further than stating we feel he's a bit selfish about how he's going about it. Anybody can find out where I live easily enough, and anybody would then be free to comment about our road or house. Further than questioning boundary positions, and the number of porches up the road there haven't exactly been any negative comments.

Only because you’ve supplied all the necessary photos and information.

Fair enough we’re all different but no way I’d be posting all that stuff on the internet.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

CAPP0 said:

Is it just me , or has the thread gone from starting out at "bd neighbour, how effin dare he, we're going to shred him over this" through "hmm, he's not so bad, and if he changes it a bit we'll fine with it" and will probably end up with a picture of Sexy Sarah serving tea all round whilst the OP does the lion's share of the neighbour's actual building work for him?

Remember I said he can be a bit bullying in his demeanor? Well, let's give an example, to suggest why we were so pissed at the offset. It started off with a simple chat, where I was discussing where we could place a fence between our houses, and asked if the cut concrete line would be apt. I received a dictatory reply in an instant. 'No this is my boundary (motioning a vertical hand slash across our house sign) and this IS where I AM extending to!'

Is that a way to broach a subject, one which will effect your neighbour, one which they will have thoughts on? No, it isn't. He has now made a concession (likely out of fear that plans could be scuppered rather than neighbourly sympathy, but still) which could work, and won't be overly to our detriment.

If this allows us all to move on with intact neighbourly relations then all is good. I have said that by and large we usually rub along nicely enough at various points throughout the thread.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

El stovey said:

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Anything I've said about the neighbour is factual and I can't recall slagging him off, further than stating we feel he's a bit selfish about how he's going about it. Anybody can find out where I live easily enough, and anybody would then be free to comment about our road or house. Further than questioning boundary positions, and the number of porches up the road there haven't exactly been any negative comments.

Only because you’ve supplied all the necessary photos and information.

Fair enough we’re all different but no way I’d be posting all that stuff on the internet.

Nothing I've shared bothers me. It's not like my pin number and date of birth have been splashed across the Daily Mail.

[dickymint]

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Equus said:

desolate said:

Would having a toilet on the boundary be a relevant factor in the decision?

Nope, not even slightly.

Really, a toilet next door to our front door behind a wooden structure. Greeting a guest 'oh don't worry about the grunting and the stink, that's just the neighbour squeezing one out'

Would anyone be happy about that?

What grunting and stink? Come on let’s be real about this - you won’t see it, you won’t smell it, it would hardly ever be used to pee in let alone shat in.Any guests to your house won’t have a clue what’s there unless you tell them

Get a grip.

[anonymous-user]

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Really, a toilet next door to our front door behind a wooden structure. Greeting a guest 'oh don't worry about the grunting and the stink, that's just the neighbour squeezing one out'

Would anyone be happy about that?

I can't see it being a valid objection in anyway, shape or form.

Living in a terrace you are always going to face potential compromises like this. Get the wrong neighbour and years of harmony go down the pan.

Once the structure is up he could turn it into a total st tip and there is nothing you can do about it.

You question is given the advantages conferred (mortgage free living) is it worth the compromise?

[Rewe]

dickymint said:

What grunting and stink? Come on let’s be real about this - you won’t see it, you won’t smell it, it would hardly ever be used to pee in let alone shat in.Any guests to your house won’t have a clue what’s there unless you tell them

Get a grip.

Of course it will! The whole point of an out of the way dunny is so you can curl one up in peace without grossing out your delicate partner! It will run red hot!

It will need a powerful extraction fan (see above), that will blast the evidence at Kermit’s currently unstained wall.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

dickymint said:

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Equus said:

desolate said:

Would having a toilet on the boundary be a relevant factor in the decision?

Nope, not even slightly.

Really, a toilet next door to our front door behind a wooden structure. Greeting a guest 'oh don't worry about the grunting and the stink, that's just the neighbour squeezing one out'

Would anyone be happy about that?

What grunting and stink? Come on let’s be real about this - you won’t see it, you won’t smell it, it would hardly ever be used to pee in let alone shat in.Any guests to your house won’t have a clue what’s there unless you tell them

Get a grip.

This is quite a reasonable concern. This is not going to be a brick build, it will be a wooden structure without sound proofing. We hear every single thing he does in his wooden structured workshop, so it's completely logical that you would hear as much from this. No smells? well, IIRC BC require a vent for a bog. Where would this go then smartarse, on the front as an eyesore, or tucked away on the side, adjacent to our front door.

Everyone we have spoken to, intelligent rational people, who will happily correct me if I'm wrong, agree it is in poor taste.

It's a moot point though, he has made no further mention of it, instead mentioning coat and shoe storage in this area.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

desolate said:

You question is given the advantages conferred (mortgage free living) is it worth the compromise?

Yes, we love our house, the spot it's in, its gardens. Most of the time we have good neighbourly relations. Our objections to this are directly related to ensuring it stays that way.

In our area at least untidy homes are given orders to sort them. It wouldn't become tatty (I can't remember the wording you used) as they are house proud - manicured plants and flowers, hanging baskets, smart stones etc.