2021 Lawn thread

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NapierDeltic

309 posts

54 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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Candellara said:
What's the chances of the seed that's already down germinating as the soil warms up - even tough it's been a good few weeks and we've had frosts etc?
I don't think it is that fussy. I imagine the seed is stored in fairly ropy conditions in warehouses and places prior to being distributed to retailers anyway. It might germinate slower or it might take longer to begin germinating, but I don't think the seed is gubbed if it can't germinate as soon as it is in the ground.


I've been doing a lot of work on the lawn at the front of our house. It is the standard new build ste, sewn into a thin cap of soil over heavy clay, so the existing grass never really put down roots to any great depth. I bought a cheap hollow-tine aerator, but had to sharpen the ends of the tines to actually get the thing to consistently cut into the soil and spit out the previous cores.

I made a topdressing mix of play pit sand (I see sharp sand cited a lot online, but with a heavy emphasis on using the finer-grained stuff, and play pit sand works just as well apparently) mixed in with a generic compost. I went with two parts compost to seven parts sand to up the organic matter content slightly, and mixed my grass seed into this. Once mixed I ended up with a consistent grey topdressing with the seeds running through it.

I'm using Johnson 'tuff grass' which is a mix of Perennial Ryegrass and Strong Creeping Red Fescue. I don't think it is ever going to look that nice as the red fescue has really fine leaves, but the stuff is coming up at around the ten day mark in a lot of areas.

My issues are that the existing grass, though very patchy, is still growing quite keenly. I also want to feed everything, but I'm holding out until the four week mark after seeding. It is still getting down to low single digits at night here (central Scotland) but the ground is bone dry. I can also only water it using a watering can in short bursts, which apparently encourages shallower roots.

blue al

968 posts

161 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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Shallow roots and alive beats deep roots an dead for grass seedlings....

You will be surprised how quickly the roots get to go down a fair depth

Chucklehead

2,748 posts

210 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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I did quite an aggressive cut, scarify and rake today and then applied some lawn fertiliser (18-3-8). I want to find a good weedkiller (some moss and creeping buttercup) before overseeding.

Can anyone recommend a granular roll in weedkiller that I won't have to wait an age before overseeding? How long should I wait before applying it and then how long again for overseeding? Ideally I'd want to have seed down towards the end of May.

DanGibsonRacing

104 posts

218 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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I have just moved into a new build with a very small lawn circa 60sqm). I was thinking with such a manageable space we could create something quite decent. Then I found we have an infestation of leatherjackets. I have ordered some Nemasys leatherjacket killer, but have heard mixed reviews about it's effectiveness.

How u doing

27,168 posts

185 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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Evanivitch

20,709 posts

124 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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DanGibsonRacing said:
I have just moved into a new build with a very small lawn circa 60sqm). I was thinking with such a manageable space we could create something quite decent. Then I found we have an infestation of leatherjackets. I have ordered some Nemasys leatherjacket killer, but have heard mixed reviews about it's effectiveness.
Check soil temperature. We're still getting a lot of frosts here, hail today.

DanGibsonRacing

104 posts

218 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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Evanivitch said:
Check soil temperature. We're still getting a lot of frosts here, hail today.
Yes, heard that 10 deg. Is the magic number, but equally conscious as time goes one the grubs get bigger and more resilient. Will dig out the thermometer for the BBQ!

r44flyer

469 posts

218 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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I missed an episode of Gardener's World earlier in April that had a part on lawns and lawn machinery. Not long but interesting enough. Apparently there's another one with lawn related material coming on Fri 7th May, if anyone wishes to tune in.

jinkster

2,262 posts

158 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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Can anyone recommend a soil thermometer? Thanks..

ChocolateFrog

26,124 posts

175 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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Heavy frost this morning here in South Yorkshire.

Evanivitch

20,709 posts

124 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
Heavy frost this morning here in South Yorkshire.
Frost settled on the north lawn but not the south at 6am this morning. Suggesting ground temperature is very much marginal at this time.

Semmelweiss

1,660 posts

198 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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Remember, it's all about Ground temperature, not air temperature...

https://www.lawnsmith.co.uk/lawn-diary/may-lawn-ca...

dhutch

14,407 posts

199 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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r44flyer said:
I missed an episode of Gardener's World earlier in April that had a part on lawns and lawn machinery. Not long but interesting enough. Apparently there's another one with lawn related material coming on Fri 7th May, if anyone wishes to tune in.
Oh nice. Working through them on iPlayer.

dhutch

14,407 posts

199 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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jinkster said:
Can anyone recommend a soil thermometer? Thanks..
Turkey thermometer?

RichB

51,920 posts

286 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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r44flyer said:
I missed an episode of Gardener's World earlier in April that had a part on lawns and lawn machinery. Not long but interesting enough. Apparently there's another one with lawn related material coming on Fri 7th May, if anyone wishes to tune in.
I am surprised, Monty and the BBC are on their eco-drive, banging on about leaving your grass long so that the weeds wild flowers grow to feed the bees. Not a week goes past on that program without someone mentioning that they've not cut their grass... hehe

r44flyer

469 posts

218 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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RichB said:
I am surprised, Monty and the BBC are on their eco-drive, banging on about leaving your grass long so that the weeds wild flowers grow to feed the bees. Not a week goes past on that program without someone mentioning that they've not cut their grass... hehe
I just watched the first of said episodes and the lawn bit was immediately followed by Monty saying exactly the same thing... again. laugh We get it, you're not a lawn fan! It's almost passive aggressive now.

I do everything else to encourage wildlife, but I like a lawn. Not to mention we need one for football, picnics, camping... hehe




RichB

51,920 posts

286 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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Here's the lawn diary for May https://www.lawnsmith.co.uk/lawn-diary

RichB

51,920 posts

286 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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r44flyer said:
I just watched the first of said episodes and the lawn bit was immediately followed by Monty saying exactly the same thing... again. laugh We get it, you're not a lawn fan! It's almost passive aggressive now.

I do everything else to encourage wildlife, but I like a lawn. Not to mention we need one for football, picnics, camping... hehe
When we bought our house 4 years ago, the garden was in a bit of a state, mainly shrubs that had been pruned into blobs and grass that was mostly moss. It was pretty well devoid of wildlife. Since then we've worked hard to build long flower borders, allowed the shrubs to take on a more natural form so they flower, and returfed the lawns and looked after the grass.

Two notable things: i) there are far more, what I call, garden birds now, not just crows and pigeons and ii) when we moved in it was the first time in my life I had ever seen a tick! We would get two or three on our legs each year but slowly they have disappeared. This year we have seen, or been bitten by, none. Maybe it's the garden birds eating the ticks, maybe it's because the garden is now cared for they have disappeared, but either way I prefer that to a dose of lyme disease.

ChocolateFrog

26,124 posts

175 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Mowing my excuse for a lawn this morning and discovering a couple of new foot square burnt patches from dog pee and it's made my mind up to astro turf my lawn next year.

It's a waste of money trying to have a nice lawn when it's only small and you have a dog and toddler.

My parents plastic paradise looks so much better and hasn't cost them anything since I put it down.

Evanivitch

20,709 posts

124 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
Mowing my excuse for a lawn this morning and discovering a couple of new foot square burnt patches from dog pee and it's made my mind up to astro turf my lawn next year.

It's a waste of money trying to have a nice lawn when it's only small and you have a dog and toddler.

My parents plastic paradise looks so much better and hasn't cost them anything since I put it down.
Don't do it.

Train the dog to pee on a patch of astroturf instead.