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theironduke

6,995 posts

190 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Manks said:
FourWheelDrift said:
After WWII there was a big increase in demolition due to damage not by bombs but by military personnel or lack of money due to the inheritance tax virus. On average in 1955 there was 1 house demolished every 5 days.
I read a book about this, "No Voice from the Hall". The death of the country house and the reasons behind it are quite interesting.

It started with the introduction of inheritance tax in the 19th century, then the first world war made staffing them difficult. Pernicious taxes and, as discussed, unsympathetic occupation during the second war made many unviable.

We are not likely ever to see again the like of some of the houses we have lost. Not only for the reasons stated above, which still hold true, but because those houses were built when slavery, dealing in opium and that sort of thing were quite acceptable.

Our home grown rich people capable of building on that sort of scale and affording the running costs will be few in the future. Happily though there are plenty of absurdly rich people from countries where human rights are of far less importance, and they can afford to buy up our remaining great houses.

It seems that to build on a grand scale requires that someone, somewhere, is having a rough time of it.
I studied this subject at Uni and did my diss on the decline of the country house, using Witley Court in Worcestershire as a case study. Facinating subject area.

Mr XXXX

155 posts

154 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Mark Benson said:
Being the wrong (Swindon) side of Marlborough and being one of only a few houses just off the main road can't do it any favours.
Indeed.

Plus, it is completely open, no privacy at all.

Still, only needs one person who likes it enough and is willing to pay for it for it to be sold.

I can't see it being sold quickly though.

Streetrod

6,468 posts

208 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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I have been invited to go and see this place by the architects with a view to retaining them for my future project, I have no idea how this place is but it looks great on paper and has a wonderful location

http://search.knightfrank.com/RCH120052

tokyo_mb

432 posts

219 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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A fine highland estate - apart from the proximity to Dounreay - http://residentialsearch.savills.co.uk/property-de...




Full pdf brochure at: http://residentialsearch.savills.co.uk/content/ass...

Slightly surprised they haven't taken down their website listing the "hot particle" finds on the nearby beach: http://www.sandsideestate.com/press.asp

Mr XXXX

155 posts

154 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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^ That is quite simply incredible value for money.

Thanks for posting.

Mr XXXX

155 posts

154 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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Ahem, now I'm no properdee expert but this house interests me:

http://slice2.reapit.com/andrpsdets/CHE120024.PDF

It is up for £1.65M, down from £1.85M and it certainly needs some work doing.

A couple of questions if I may;

Would anyone hazard a guess on how much £ would need to be spent to bring it up to a good standard?

As the property is Grade 2 listed, does that mean it cannot be painted on the exterior? The colour scheme on the outside isn't very appealing to me.

FourWheelDrift

88,807 posts

286 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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Mr XXXX said:
As the property is Grade 2 listed, does that mean it cannot be painted on the exterior? The colour scheme on the outside isn't very appealing to me.
Grade II listing doesn't mean it can't be painted. It might be something you have to request as per the listing requirements but very doubtful it would be refused as all houses need repainting at some point (including Grade 1* houses) and as long as your choice is not bright green, fluorescent orange or black it would be accepted. They might even put you into contact with someone who knows what the correct period colours would be.

AstonZagato

12,791 posts

212 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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I think you'd most likely need listed building consent before changing the outside colour.

Get a copy of the listing.

It is worth getting the listed buildings officer out to the house to talk about what you want to do in principle. This however is only to judge how reasonable (or otherwise - and in my experience it is "otherwise") that the relevant person is likely to be. What they say on the day is of no use whatsoever - it has to be in writing.

ETA:
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-448594-...

House, 1912, roughcast with painted timber dressings, tall hipped
plain tile roofs and tall red brick stacks. Two storeys, early C18
style, extensive rambling plan, possibly incorporating an earlier
structure. Main fronts to north and south. Timber dentilled eaves
cornice right around and exposed box sash windows throughout.
North front has 5-window hipped centrepiece with projecting hipped
centre bay and columned projecting porch. Eight-pane sashes each
side, 12-pane to first floor centre over early C18 style door with
overlight. Ground floor has applied Ionic pilastrade returned each
side of centre bay and continued forward as deep open porch on four
Ionic columns with curved roof and segmental pediment. First floor
has panelled angle piers to centre bay and outer'angles. Plain
roughcast ranges each side, not symmetrical, with hipped ends.
Irregular west front between ends of main ranges and 5-window south
front of 12-pane sashes, 8-12-8-pane tripartite sashes in fourth
bay, and centre half glazed door with early C18 style segmental
hood on console brackets.
Interior has panelled doors and fittings in early C18 style and
fine staircase. An unusually elaborate early C20 neo-Georgian
house with high quality detailing.


Edited by AstonZagato on Saturday 7th July 15:24

iluvmercs

7,541 posts

229 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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tokyo_mb said:
A fine highland estate - apart from the proximity to Dounreay - http://residentialsearch.savills.co.uk/property-de...

I think THIS LINK explains why the estate is now for sale, and relatively cheap for so much land.

Not sure the proximity to a former Nuclear Power station would put me off, to be honest.

Darren

Mr XXXX

155 posts

154 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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Interesting.

Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated.

PaulHogan

6,285 posts

280 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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This says poa but guessing from where it comes in Savills list I'd say it's £5.8m

http://internationalsearch.savills.co.uk/PropertyD...

theboyfold

10,946 posts

228 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Oh.

Is one lit airstrip not enough sir? Please browse this way : Kirbymoorside
So when I buy this, am I right in thinking I can only fly my planes from my runway on farm business?

Streetrod said:
I have been invited to go and see this place by the architects with a view to retaining them for my future project, I have no idea how this place is but it looks great on paper and has a wonderful location

http://search.knightfrank.com/RCH120052
By god that's simply stunning. Any idea on the price?

Edited by theboyfold on Saturday 7th July 23:21

silverthorn2151

6,299 posts

181 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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With a few bob spent I reckon this could be very nice.

http://residentialsearch.savills.co.uk/property-de...


Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Like it.


Manks

26,625 posts

224 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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silverthorn2151 said:
With a few bob spent I reckon this could be very nice.

http://residentialsearch.savills.co.uk/property-de...
Spent on what? At first glance looks pretty tidy.

silverthorn2151

6,299 posts

181 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Manks said:
silverthorn2151 said:
With a few bob spent I reckon this could be very nice.

http://residentialsearch.savills.co.uk/property-de...
Spent on what? At first glance looks pretty tidy.
More of a refresh than anything significant to be fair. A bit of internal and external decoration but nothing much more than that.

Colonial

13,553 posts

207 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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I really want this place.

http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-ne...

Get rid of the cafe down the bottom, get rid of the kitchen and you could turn the entire ground floor into a garage. Plus a separate basement with access from a side road.

Huge apartment on the top and mezzanine floors.

Just awesome.

louiebaby

10,651 posts

193 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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iluvmercs said:
tokyo_mb said:
A fine highland estate - apart from the proximity to Dounreay - http://residentialsearch.savills.co.uk/property-de...

I think THIS LINK explains why the estate is now for sale, and relatively cheap for so much land.

Not sure the proximity to a former Nuclear Power station would put me off, to be honest.

Darren
The "Nuclear Fallout" is one reason. Now I like a place with a bit of Solitude, but it is just SOOO far from anywhere. For some, this is the appeal, for me, it it too far. But also the chance of future children looking like the cast of the Simpsons.

R.P.M

1,879 posts

223 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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louiebaby said:
iluvmercs said:
tokyo_mb said:
A fine highland estate - apart from the proximity to Dounreay - http://residentialsearch.savills.co.uk/property-de...

I think THIS LINK explains why the estate is now for sale, and relatively cheap for so much land.

Not sure the proximity to a former Nuclear Power station would put me off, to be honest.

Darren
The "Nuclear Fallout" is one reason. Now I like a place with a bit of Solitude, but it is just SOOO far from anywhere. For some, this is the appeal, for me, it it too far. But also the chance of future children looking like the cast of the Simpsons.
Nothing to worry about. I'd buy it and delay the move until Dounreay is de-classified to a brownfield site. This is estimated to happen in 2336. silly

Davey S2

13,098 posts

256 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Ryanair founder's pad is up for sale at a knockdown price

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170885/Ry...
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