Refuse collection and Council Logic

[Getragdogleg]

Pupp said:

Getragdogleg said:

Pupp said:

Getragdogleg said:

I have done it before.

Done what; served as a councillor on a district or a unitary authority?

Been involved with stopping and modifying a huge local project that included meeting with MPs up at Portcullis house, addressing full planning meetings and sitting in on many local council meetings and acting as a transport advisor to the council and scheme designers.

I was told I should stand for election and join in more often by several councillors as I was "very good at cutting through the bluster".

I stopped being involved once my familiy commitments increased, I will be getting back into it once I have more time.

The faff and procrastination I witnessed as well as the blatant personal bias toward favoured council branches was eye opening. The only way to fight this is to join in and be a pain in the arse.

Ok, so you haven't actually done it but might; that's cool. Just those pesky facts getting in the way again

Thanks for the snide dig, I meant I had experience of hassling councils, not that I was once Chief exec of Cornwall Council. And that my interaction with the council was an eye opener and I quite enjoyed it and was told I could be quite good at being involved at a more formal level if I chose to do so.

But, if you want to score internet points because I was not typing my replies to comply with with some odd legal dissection by you then feel free to feel all big and clever.

As for the "again" at the end of your little post, WTF ? Have I crossed you by having a different opinion from you in another forum or are you one of those who sees fairly regular posters and thinks he knows them ?

Edited by Getragdogleg on Saturday 2nd February 17:33

[NDA]

Getragdogleg said:

Thanks for the snide dig, I meant I had experience of hassling councils, not that I was once Chief exec of Cornwall Council. And that my interaction with the council was an eye opener and I quite enjoyed it and was told I could be quite good at being involved at a more formal level if I chose to do so.

But, if you want to score internet points because I was not typing my replies to comply with with some odd legal dissection by you then I feel free to feel all big and clever.

As for the "again" at the end of your little post, WTF ? Have I crossed by having a different opinion from you in another forum or are you one of those who sees fairly regular posters and thinks he knows them ?

Er no, he works for the council. They're all like that.

[mph1977]

jmorgan said:

We had snow last Friday. So they could not make it a week ago today. elfnsafety.

or shock horror , the bin wagon drivers had used their driving hours on ploughing and gritting ...

[Pupp]

Getragdogleg said:

Pupp said:

Getragdogleg said:

Pupp said:

Getragdogleg said:

I have done it before.

Done what; served as a councillor on a district or a unitary authority?

Been involved with stopping and modifying a huge local project that included meeting with MPs up at Portcullis house, addressing full planning meetings and sitting in on many local council meetings and acting as a transport advisor to the council and scheme designers.

I was told I should stand for election and join in more often by several councillors as I was "very good at cutting through the bluster".

I stopped being involved once my familiy commitments increased, I will be getting back into it once I have more time.

The faff and procrastination I witnessed as well as the blatant personal bias toward favoured council branches was eye opening. The only way to fight this is to join in and be a pain in the arse.

Ok, so you haven't actually done it but might; that's cool. Just those pesky facts getting in the way again

Thanks for the snide dig, I meant I had experience of hassling councils, not that I was once Chief exec of Cornwall Council. And that my interaction with the council was an eye opener and I quite enjoyed it and was told I could be quite good at being involved at a more formal level if I chose to do so.

But, if you want to score internet points because I was not typing my replies to comply with with some odd legal dissection by you then feel free to feel all big and clever.

As for the "again" at the end of your little post, WTF ? Have I crossed you by having a different opinion from you in another forum or are you one of those who sees fairly regular posters and thinks he knows them ?

Edited by Getragdogleg on Saturday 2nd February 17:33

No digs intended at all, so don't be so sensitive. The 'again' was general and reflective of the repeated inaccuracies in the thread as a whole...

(BTW you'll never become Chief Exec from being a councillor, that's not quite how the structure works )

[Getragdogleg]

Pupp said:

Getragdogleg said:

Pupp said:

Getragdogleg said:

Pupp said:

Getragdogleg said:

I have done it before.

Done what; served as a councillor on a district or a unitary authority?

Been involved with stopping and modifying a huge local project that included meeting with MPs up at Portcullis house, addressing full planning meetings and sitting in on many local council meetings and acting as a transport advisor to the council and scheme designers.

I was told I should stand for election and join in more often by several councillors as I was "very good at cutting through the bluster".

I stopped being involved once my familiy commitments increased, I will be getting back into it once I have more time.

The faff and procrastination I witnessed as well as the blatant personal bias toward favoured council branches was eye opening. The only way to fight this is to join in and be a pain in the arse.

Ok, so you haven't actually done it but might; that's cool. Just those pesky facts getting in the way again

Thanks for the snide dig, I meant I had experience of hassling councils, not that I was once Chief exec of Cornwall Council. And that my interaction with the council was an eye opener and I quite enjoyed it and was told I could be quite good at being involved at a more formal level if I chose to do so.

But, if you want to score internet points because I was not typing my replies to comply with with some odd legal dissection by you then feel free to feel all big and clever.

As for the "again" at the end of your little post, WTF ? Have I crossed you by having a different opinion from you in another forum or are you one of those who sees fairly regular posters and thinks he knows them ?

Edited by Getragdogleg on Saturday 2nd February 17:33

No digs intended at all, so don't be so sensitive. The 'again' was general and reflective of the repeated inaccuracies in the thread as a whole...

(BTW you'll never become Chief Exec from being a councillor, that's not quite how the structure works )

Peace man !

Explanation accepted, I think the sensitivity comes from dealing with too many bellends on other threads on here. Hugs !

[Pupp]

Getragdogleg said:

Hugs !

[Getragdogleg]

Pupp said:

Getragdogleg said:

Hugs !

[happychap]

Under cover of darkness, wheel the bin away from your house and tip it. At least this way the bins empty and the council will clear the mess up because that's what they do.Not the best solution but practical, in fact why dont you phone the council to report the offending fly tip.

[hidetheelephants]

happychap said:

Under cover of darkness, wheel the bin away from your house and tip it. At least this way the bins empty and the council will clear the mess up because that's what they do.Not the best solution but practical, in fact why dont you phone the council to report the offending fly tip.

Only if there's nowt in there with your name or address on though(not that there would be; every self-respecting PH company director cross-shreds everything and puts it in the burn bag).

[Mr AJ]

happychap said:

Under cover of darkness, wheel the bin away from your house and tip it. At least this way the bins empty and the council will clear the mess up because that's what they do.Not the best solution but practical, in fact why dont you phone the council to report the offending fly tip.

Won't be doing that i'm afraid! Local council have cottoned on to the fact that leaving "Excess waste" at the collection points instead of taking it away, then labelling it "Fly tipped" the following day is a neat little earner. Have heard stories of one woman made the mistake of putting a bin bag out with a letter in it for collection. A few other houses on the street also leaves a bag or two out for collection in addition to the bins. Naturally the bin men leave the "Excess waste" because they're lazy sods - Later on a Local 'Warden' comes around, finds her name + address in one of the bags but nothing in any of the others and she got prosecuted and fined for 20-odd bags of rubbish!.

[happychap]

Mr AJ said:

Won't be doing that i'm afraid! Local council have cottoned on to the fact that leaving "Excess waste" at the collection points instead of taking it away, then labelling it "Fly tipped" the following day is a neat little earner. Have heard stories of one woman made the mistake of putting a bin bag out with a letter in it for collection. A few other houses on the street also leaves a bag or two out for collection in addition to the bins. Naturally the bin men leave the "Excess waste" because they're lazy sods - Later on a Local 'Warden' comes around, finds her name + address in one of the bags but nothing in any of the others and she got prosecuted and fined for 20-odd bags of rubbish!.

Another option, on the collection day contact the council and non emergency number 101 to report your bin as stolen and you are concerned that if found or tipped else where you will be fined. The following day take a few streets away and tip it and leave the bin. You might have the empty bin returned, or supplied with a new one.

[mph1977]

it's amazing how the powerfully built company director denziens of PH want the council to flex the terms of a contract to suit them, but if their customers wanted them to do so they'd have absolutely no problem with saying no or charging handsomely for the privelege.

[Johnnytheboy]

mph1977 said:

it's amazing how the powerfully built company director denziens of PH want the council to flex the terms of a contract to suit them, but if their customers wanted them to do so they'd have absolutely no problem with saying no or charging handsomely for the privelege.

Because the council practically give away their refuse collection services, don't they?

[magpie215]

bin out night before collection.....oh look some scrotes must have set fire to my bin

[scdan4]

Just get one of these?

[Vipers]

Then there are the imbeciles. Saturday, ever since I can remember a bin lorry parks at ASDA all day, you can take anything down and put in the truck.

Next day, some moron deposits a TV next to the bottle bank, and a plastic bag of food waste, which the local ste hawkers rip to shreds and distribute it all around the car park.

Dip sts each and every one.

Oh and not to mention a cardboard box of empty bottles left by the bottle bank. You are supposed to PUT THEM IN THE BINS.

Maybe this is only reserved for Portlethen.............

[chr15b]

mph1977 said:

it's amazing how the powerfully built company director denziens of PH want the council to flex the terms of a contract to suit them, but if their customers wanted them to do so they'd have absolutely no problem with saying no or charging handsomely for the privelege.

have you read the OP?

[jeff m2]

scdan4 said:

Just get one of these?

Or a trash compactor.
A bit noisy but useful if you generate excess trash.

[NDA]

mph1977 said:

it's amazing how the powerfully built company director denziens of PH want the council to flex the terms of a contract to suit them, but if their customers wanted them to do so they'd have absolutely no problem with saying no or charging handsomely for the privelege.

It's not really a contract or something people have much choice over is it? I pay nearly £10 a day in council tax, I have no choice. A few years ago, the bin men would take rubbish away, which is what I want them to do. Now the council have imposed more feckin bins, collect them less frequently and charge me even more to do it, I'm not 'flexing' any contract, merely wanting the service I've paid for whilst having no alternative supplier.

In business, in the real world, 'customers' are not treated this way. You'd go out of business rather than banking a hefty salary and pension.

See?

[otolith]

mph1977 said:

it's amazing how the powerfully built company director denziens of PH want the council to flex the terms of a contract to suit them, but if their customers wanted them to do so they'd have absolutely no problem with saying no or charging handsomely for the privelege.

And their customers would be able to tell them to stick their renewals where the sun doesn't shine and leave them out of work, a possibility which would do much to concentrate public sector minds.