Moving - to Fill or Not to Fill

Moving - to Fill or Not to Fill

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PrinceRupert

11,575 posts

87 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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sociopath said:
What did you move into, a house or a pigsty?

I've never sterilised a house for 5 minutes never mind 4 days, and I'm not dead yet
It took two of us 4 x 12 hour days to get the (relatively small) kitchen clean in our new house...

dazwalsh

6,098 posts

143 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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PrinceRupert said:
sociopath said:
What did you move into, a house or a pigsty?

I've never sterilised a house for 5 minutes never mind 4 days, and I'm not dead yet
It took two of us 4 x 12 hour days to get the (relatively small) kitchen clean in our new house...
The guts of 100 hours graft to clean a kitchen! ?

Kermit power

28,915 posts

215 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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PositronicRay said:
On our purchase the vendors made it very clear they were taking every towel rail, toilet roll holder, curtain rail, light fitting, and hook.
That's weird! What are the odds on all the curtain rails etc even fitting the new property? I also can't imagine many people would bother, so why would you take your bog roll holder, just to have to presumably strip out the one in the new place which will no doubt have different fittings, leaving you with probably more holes in the wall to fill?

rustyuk

4,601 posts

213 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Every house we have moved into has been a total mess.

The current one had the fire ripped out and shower broken. Mold and dirt everywhere, internal cooker didn't work.

It wasn't cheap either!

Skyedriver

18,097 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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DoubleD said:
Skyedriver said:
When we sold our house on Skye we left a few cardboard boxes along with a washing machine which was plumbed in as as help to the new owner along with a load of timber of various lengths widths and origin as she was intending to install a woodburner.
We received a letter from her solicitor demanding we remove everything or be charged for their removal.......
Did you ask if you could leave items?
To be fair, no, just thought we were doing her a favour. Can't remember if the plumbed in washer was listed in the sales brochure.
On the other side of things, I bought a house in 1981, it was still full of the stuff left after the wake of the late owner. Upturned bed with clothes and false teeth on the floor, kitchen cupboard with half empty packets of food and drink and a garage half full of coal (which came in useful). The "church" had been instructed t clear the place but instead appeared to have ransacked it looking for anything valuable. Wish I had known then I could sue for the removal. Instead 4 of use spent a weekend clearing out .

Skyedriver

18,097 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Mr_J said:
Only moved house once. We cleaned and hoovered as we emptied a room.

We did leave a bottle of bubbly in the fridge and a welcome to your new home letter with details like the neighbours names and our contact details.
The woman who bought our place on Skye would probably have complained we hadn't left any glasses or else criticise that it wasn't Moet & Chandon.
And yes we had left a nice welcome note. We had previously agreed to let her have the caravan in the garden, for her and the cat to live in for a few days.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

110 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Skyedriver said:
DoubleD said:
Skyedriver said:
When we sold our house on Skye we left a few cardboard boxes along with a washing machine which was plumbed in as as help to the new owner along with a load of timber of various lengths widths and origin as she was intending to install a woodburner.
We received a letter from her solicitor demanding we remove everything or be charged for their removal.......
Did you ask if you could leave items?
To be fair, no, just thought we were doing her a favour. Can't remember if the plumbed in washer was listed in the sales brochure.
On the other side of things, I bought a house in 1981, it was still full of the stuff left after the wake of the late owner. Upturned bed with clothes and false teeth on the floor, kitchen cupboard with half empty packets of food and drink and a garage half full of coal (which came in useful). The "church" had been instructed t clear the place but instead appeared to have ransacked it looking for anything valuable. Wish I had known then I could sue for the removal. Instead 4 of use spent a weekend clearing out .
Look at it from her side, she arrives to move in only to find cardboard boxes, wood and a washing machine in the way, making it tricky for her to get her own one installed.

PrinceRupert

11,575 posts

87 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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dazwalsh said:
The guts of 100 hours graft to clean a kitchen! ?
It was absolutely disgusting. I took every single handle off every single door so that I could soak them. Had to scrub the tiles at least three times. I found a pile of fingernail cuttings in a cupboard...

oblio

5,426 posts

229 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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When we bought our house in Cirencester back in 2012 we paid one of these companies who clean ovens to do the range that was included in the sale. In 21 years of doing that job he said it was the second worst he'd ever seen!

Shortly after moving in I decided the give the kitchen floor a scrub. It was a dull shade of brown; quite uniform across it all but I thought I could brighten it up. After 3 x 2 hour scrubbing sessions with a scrubbing brush, on my knees, it appeared that the floor was actually multi coloured slate!

Minging!

DonkeyApple

56,370 posts

171 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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oblio said:
When we bought our house in Cirencester back in 2012 we paid one of these companies who clean ovens to do the range that was included in the sale. In 21 years of doing that job he said it was the second worst he'd ever seen!

Shortly after moving in I decided the give the kitchen floor a scrub. It was a dull shade of brown; quite uniform across it all but I thought I could brighten it up. After 3 x 2 hour scrubbing sessions with a scrubbing brush, on my knees, it appeared that the floor was actually multi coloured slate!

Minging!
Any family home, even if it’s been pretty well kept is still going to have a layer of dirt that needs removing.

To match your kitchen tile example, the first flat I bought in London had beige carpet in the living room on the morning I turned up with the keys. By the afternoon I had a lovely pink carpet.

littlebasher

3,795 posts

173 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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One of the places i went on to buy was vacant, but still contained crappy old furniture and whatnot. Agreed that it would all be cleared out of the house before completion.

The day we moved in, the downstairs and upstairs were indeed empty. bds had put it all up in the loft instead, took days before it was cleared.

GT03ROB

13,468 posts

223 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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DonkeyApple said:
DoubleD said:
Retain part of the payment? How do you manage to do that?
It’s normal practice to hold back a grand or two in escrow to cover things as far as I am aware as the likelihood of any success in chasing them once they’ve got all the moneybis close to zero. It normally gets released to them after three or six months.
Never heard of that before.

GT03ROB

13,468 posts

223 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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sociopath said:
Where did you live and store your possessions during those 4 days? Most people don't have the luxury of a spare house
When moved a year ago we completed on the house we were selling a few days before we had exchanged on the next property.

We needed 2 days to move all the accumulated crap out even with removers. After we completed on new place it needed 2 days to move stuff in too. So stuff needed storage even if we had back to backed the moves. I took a holiday let close by in the New Forest for 2 weeks. While the house we left was in disarray during moving out we simply left in the afternoon to the holiday let, had a few days there as a "holiday", completed on the new place a week after the old place. While moving into the new place we went back to the holiday let in the late afternoon, coming back in the morning for the removers.

Probably cost a bit more, but really helped with the moving process. When you accumulate crap like my wife does, it's hard to do it all in one day from one place to the next.

hotchy

4,503 posts

128 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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myvision said:
When we moved in the previous owners left everything the Hoover was plugged in and in the middle of the living room.
It looked as though they'd just said right let's leave now.
Clothes still hanging in the wardrobes and washing in the machine.

Took fking ages to move it all out. A sty note to say enjoy your new house.
they'd gone back to Canada.
Easy. Gumtree advert "everything free to collect"

Be empty by 5 and you can move in.

blueg33

36,527 posts

226 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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GT03ROB said:
DonkeyApple said:
DoubleD said:
Retain part of the payment? How do you manage to do that?
It’s normal practice to hold back a grand or two in escrow to cover things as far as I am aware as the likelihood of any success in chasing them once they’ve got all the moneybis close to zero. It normally gets released to them after three or six months.
Never heard of that before.
Retention is not normal on used property the process is.

Buyer solicitor transfers funds to sellers solicitor but held to order of buyers solicitor with a lawyers statement known as an undertaking.

Buyer checks house is vacant and ready to complete.

Buyer confirms this to buyers lawyer.

Buyers law calls sellers lawyer and releases the money

Completion takes place on the same call.

If the buyer sees stuff in the house, he can tell his solicitor and a retention would then be held until the house is cleared, or completion is delayed until its cleared.

PositronicRay

27,168 posts

185 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Kermit power said:
PositronicRay said:
On our purchase the vendors made it very clear they were taking every towel rail, toilet roll holder, curtain rail, light fitting, and hook.
That's weird! What are the odds on all the curtain rails etc even fitting the new property? I also can't imagine many people would bother, so why would you take your bog roll holder, just to have to presumably strip out the one in the new place which will no doubt have different fittings, leaving you with probably more holes in the wall to fill?
They were a bit weird. Whilst she was explaining all the stuff that was going, he looked at me and said they still had the stuff from 2 previous house moves.

Apparently the loft and eves cupboards were absolutely chocka.

The effort involved in retaining run of the mill fixtures must have been immense, but the the house was left in an immaculate condition so all okay by me.

ETA

They did leave a kettle a couple of mugs, some cleaning stuff. And for some inexplicable reason a couple of filing cabinets.

Edited by PositronicRay on Monday 13th July 08:49

GT03ROB

13,468 posts

223 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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blueg33 said:
GT03ROB said:
DonkeyApple said:
DoubleD said:
Retain part of the payment? How do you manage to do that?
It’s normal practice to hold back a grand or two in escrow to cover things as far as I am aware as the likelihood of any success in chasing them once they’ve got all the moneybis close to zero. It normally gets released to them after three or six months.
Never heard of that before.
Retention is not normal on used property the process is.

Buyer solicitor transfers funds to sellers solicitor but held to order of buyers solicitor with a lawyers statement known as an undertaking.

Buyer checks house is vacant and ready to complete.

Buyer confirms this to buyers lawyer.

Buyers law calls sellers lawyer and releases the money

Completion takes place on the same call.

If the buyer sees stuff in the house, he can tell his solicitor and a retention would then be held until the house is cleared, or completion is delayed until its cleared.
Never had that either...… "You can collect the keys now, congratulations on you new home" is more normal!!

blueg33

36,527 posts

226 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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GT03ROB said:
blueg33 said:
GT03ROB said:
DonkeyApple said:
DoubleD said:
Retain part of the payment? How do you manage to do that?
It’s normal practice to hold back a grand or two in escrow to cover things as far as I am aware as the likelihood of any success in chasing them once they’ve got all the moneybis close to zero. It normally gets released to them after three or six months.
Never heard of that before.
Retention is not normal on used property the process is.

Buyer solicitor transfers funds to sellers solicitor but held to order of buyers solicitor with a lawyers statement known as an undertaking.

Buyer checks house is vacant and ready to complete.

Buyer confirms this to buyers lawyer.

Buyers law calls sellers lawyer and releases the money

Completion takes place on the same call.

If the buyer sees stuff in the house, he can tell his solicitor and a retention would then be held until the house is cleared, or completion is delayed until its cleared.
Never had that either...… "You can collect the keys now, congratulations on you new home" is more normal!!
In that case, IMO you have crap solicitors.

I used to own an estate agents many moons ago and the above was normal. Its also the way we do it with every professional purchase I have done over 30 odd years.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

110 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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blueg33 said:
GT03ROB said:
blueg33 said:
GT03ROB said:
DonkeyApple said:
DoubleD said:
Retain part of the payment? How do you manage to do that?
It’s normal practice to hold back a grand or two in escrow to cover things as far as I am aware as the likelihood of any success in chasing them once they’ve got all the moneybis close to zero. It normally gets released to them after three or six months.
Never heard of that before.
Retention is not normal on used property the process is.

Buyer solicitor transfers funds to sellers solicitor but held to order of buyers solicitor with a lawyers statement known as an undertaking.

Buyer checks house is vacant and ready to complete.

Buyer confirms this to buyers lawyer.

Buyers law calls sellers lawyer and releases the money

Completion takes place on the same call.

If the buyer sees stuff in the house, he can tell his solicitor and a retention would then be held until the house is cleared, or completion is delayed until its cleared.
Never had that either...… "You can collect the keys now, congratulations on you new home" is more normal!!
In that case, IMO you have crap solicitors.

I used to own an estate agents many moons ago and the above was normal. Its also the way we do it with every professional purchase I have done over 30 odd years.
Well its not normal anymore.

Why would you need to retain money from each other when you set up a contract with them before the sale?

blueg33

36,527 posts

226 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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DoubleD said:
blueg33 said:
GT03ROB said:
blueg33 said:
GT03ROB said:
DonkeyApple said:
DoubleD said:
Retain part of the payment? How do you manage to do that?
It’s normal practice to hold back a grand or two in escrow to cover things as far as I am aware as the likelihood of any success in chasing them once they’ve got all the moneybis close to zero. It normally gets released to them after three or six months.
Never heard of that before.
Retention is not normal on used property the process is.

Buyer solicitor transfers funds to sellers solicitor but held to order of buyers solicitor with a lawyers statement known as an undertaking.

Buyer checks house is vacant and ready to complete.

Buyer confirms this to buyers lawyer.

Buyers law calls sellers lawyer and releases the money

Completion takes place on the same call.

If the buyer sees stuff in the house, he can tell his solicitor and a retention would then be held until the house is cleared, or completion is delayed until its cleared.
Never had that either...… "You can collect the keys now, congratulations on you new home" is more normal!!
In that case, IMO you have crap solicitors.

I used to own an estate agents many moons ago and the above was normal. Its also the way we do it with every professional purchase I have done over 30 odd years.
Well its not normal anymore.

Why would you need to retain money from each other when you set up a contract with them before the sale?
Its normal now on stuff I buy (buy something pretty much every week)

Read what I said about he process and the application of the retention. Retention is held if completion conditions have not been met.