OK, So what on earth did this to my fence?
Discussion
redtwin said:
The metal has a "memory" and when the fence was damaged by the range rover the bar was no longer held in tension and repeated heating and cooling (summer, winter etc) over the years has caused it to curl.
A bit like a spring that has been unwound. I know the fence isn't a spring but maybe that bar was once coiled after being drawn at the foundry.
If that theory held water, all of the fence rail would be at least trying to twist. As it is, it looks like it's all absolutely straight up to the bent bit, which is specifically bent around the upright.A bit like a spring that has been unwound. I know the fence isn't a spring but maybe that bar was once coiled after being drawn at the foundry.
Next!
humpbackmaniac said:
I had a car, an old shape Range Rover end up on its roof in my yard a couple of years ago (it is a dodgy off camber right, sometimes gravelly and the poor chap was drunk so you cant really blame him for it!) and have only this weekend been trimming back the foliage in the area after not having been down there for years, when I found this!
Thats 3/4 Inch Iron bar, difficult to see scale on the pciture, I tried to bend it and I am a fit'ish lad and it wouldnt move a smidge. So who did this? Arnie visit Suffolk and have a Paddy with my poor fence? Aliens? High temeperature from burning jet fuel?
You could get an Oxy on it but it would take a long time to heat up enough of the bar to bend it so nicely, and its in the middle of my field why would someone bother?
Rotate the bar 180 degrees in the hole in the post. Then it would be in a position that the twist would clear the post. The bar could then be withdrawn from the post. It’s a sort of cam-lock effect. I vaguely remember seeing it done before, but can’t think where or when.Thats 3/4 Inch Iron bar, difficult to see scale on the pciture, I tried to bend it and I am a fit'ish lad and it wouldnt move a smidge. So who did this? Arnie visit Suffolk and have a Paddy with my poor fence? Aliens? High temeperature from burning jet fuel?
You could get an Oxy on it but it would take a long time to heat up enough of the bar to bend it so nicely, and its in the middle of my field why would someone bother?
The bar could have been twisted prior to inserting and rotated into the current position, dependent upon how the far end which is out of shot in the photo is fixed.
Note that a piece of (looks like barbed) wire has been attached to the post. It looks as if it once closed the gap between the two posts. This was fixed long ago because it’s rusted and failed.
At some time someone wanted a gap there. Later the need for the gap was gone and the gap was closed with barbed wire. Somewhere on the web is a society for collectors of barb wire, but I don’t remember its name.
If you trawl their site, you can match up the wire to a picture and date it.
I suspect that this has been like it for many years, despite you thinking otherwise. What is the history of the site, what do you know about the reason this fence was first put there?
Uncle Fester said:
humpbackmaniac said:
I had a car, an old shape Range Rover end up on its roof in my yard a couple of years ago (it is a dodgy off camber right, sometimes gravelly and the poor chap was drunk so you cant really blame him for it!) and have only this weekend been trimming back the foliage in the area after not having been down there for years, when I found this!
Thats 3/4 Inch Iron bar, difficult to see scale on the pciture, I tried to bend it and I am a fit'ish lad and it wouldnt move a smidge. So who did this? Arnie visit Suffolk and have a Paddy with my poor fence? Aliens? High temeperature from burning jet fuel?
You could get an Oxy on it but it would take a long time to heat up enough of the bar to bend it so nicely, and its in the middle of my field why would someone bother?
Rotate the bar 180 degrees in the hole in the post. Then it would be in a position that the twist would clear the post. The bar could then be withdrawn from the post. It’s a sort of cam-lock effect. I vaguely remember seeing it done before, but can’t think where or when.Thats 3/4 Inch Iron bar, difficult to see scale on the pciture, I tried to bend it and I am a fit'ish lad and it wouldnt move a smidge. So who did this? Arnie visit Suffolk and have a Paddy with my poor fence? Aliens? High temeperature from burning jet fuel?
You could get an Oxy on it but it would take a long time to heat up enough of the bar to bend it so nicely, and its in the middle of my field why would someone bother?
The bar could have been twisted prior to inserting and rotated into the current position, dependent upon how the far end which is out of shot in the photo is fixed.
Note that a piece of (looks like barbed) wire has been attached to the post. It looks as if it once closed the gap between the two posts. This was fixed long ago because it’s rusted and failed.
At some time someone wanted a gap there. Later the need for the gap was gone and the gap was closed with barbed wire. Somewhere on the web is a society for collectors of barb wire, but I don’t remember its name.
If you trawl their site, you can match up the wire to a picture and date it.
I suspect that this has been like it for many years, despite you thinking otherwise. What is the history of the site, what do you know about the reason this fence was first put there?
Could the emergency services or vehicle recovery crew have done it when attending the scene of the Range Rover accident - they have some pretty heavy duty equipment!
Rollcage said:
Could the emergency services or vehicle recovery crew have done it when attending the scene of the Range Rover accident - they have some pretty heavy duty equipment!
Surely if it had been done by the Emergency Services, they would have just bent it back and out of the way, not wrapped it round the post....ETA The next post in the fence seems to be pretty close by, surely a Range Rover couldn't get through that gap? The rest of the fence beyond the gap seems pretty curvy as well, for what it's worth...
I'm kinda interested in the actual cut in the metal - it looks like a very clean cut, straight up and down. I don't know if it's just my eyes, but it seems like on the curly side of the metal 'rope', maybe an inch or two from the cut, there's a pretty deep notch in the metal.. Any metallurgists in the house?
And do you have any more pictures, OP? Close ups, general scene, etc.. I'm damned intrigued now as well!!
Edited by Schmeeky on Thursday 26th March 22:13
Schmeeky said:
Rollcage said:
Could the emergency services or vehicle recovery crew have done it when attending the scene of the Range Rover accident - they have some pretty heavy duty equipment!
Surely if it had been done by the Emergency Services, they would have just bent it back and out of the way, not wrapped it round the post....The fireman might have been in a bad mood.....
Having pondered it a bit more ,the interesting thing is how relatively uniform the distortion is - ie the twisting is not just in one or two places ,but ALL the length of the bar is twisted to quite some degree .Normally I would expect it to have been bent back at the post ,as that would give the bar something to react against when force was applied to it.
If you tried to bend a more manageable length then it would tend to bend more acutely in one place.
Any thoughts?
Actually ,having reviewed the above ,it DOES look as if it has been pulled up from under the straight length to the left of the upright and then pulled back down again - the radius of the curve is tighter as it passes under the bar .
Personnally ,i think bigger boys did it sir!(Arent there some well known benders on this site?)
If you tried to bend a more manageable length then it would tend to bend more acutely in one place.
Any thoughts?
Actually ,having reviewed the above ,it DOES look as if it has been pulled up from under the straight length to the left of the upright and then pulled back down again - the radius of the curve is tighter as it passes under the bar .
Personnally ,i think bigger boys did it sir!(Arent there some well known benders on this site?)
Edited by Rollcage on Thursday 26th March 22:39
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