Is anyone moving now?

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Greshamst

2,090 posts

122 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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MuscleSedan said:
Currently packing boxes ready for Friday.

Just as well I did not fully appreciate what a monumental task it would be before I started !
Good luck today!

Greshamst

2,090 posts

122 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Have had plenty of “become a landlord” type emails from this estate agents before, but first time they’ve tried to peddle “fixer uppers”.

Clearly a sign that people with good quality houses are staying put, and it’s mostly probate and old people houses coming up for sale at the moment.

MDUBZ

871 posts

102 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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MuscleSedan said:
Currently packing boxes ready for Friday.

Just as well I did not fully appreciate what a monumental task it would be before I started !
Good luck - the frustrating thing, which I’m sure you don’t want to hear, is that some of what you pack you’ll never use and probably throw away when you’re at the other end smile

18 months later we’re down to 1 box in the house ( pictures that need to go up) and 2 in the shed that still need sorting through when I get round to a shed sort out/ organising session. I’ve easily done 2 full car loads to the tip and we’ve shredded a st ton of paperwork; judging by some friends who moved 10 years ago they still have unopened boxes in the loft we’ve done quite well.

I wish I’d hired a skip and had a good clear out as we were packing (we had cleared out most of the crap in the loft 6 months before moving thankfully) especially as we moved ourselves and it was a back breaking day even before moving a load of things we didn’t need. It’s made me a bit more ruthless about keeping things I might never need although we have acquired a few more things on account of having more space now…

Percy.

801 posts

76 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Estate agent came round yesterday, took photos and measured up, hoping to be live for sale next week.

Prior to them coming, we emptied every cupboard and every room, decided on what we wanted to keep and what could go to the tip, be sold or to charity.

We aren't the hoarding kind, but we filled 19 black bin bags.

There is just two of us and a dog, in a 3 bed terrace.

pb8g09

2,419 posts

71 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Greshamst said:


Have had plenty of “become a landlord” type emails from this estate agents before, but first time they’ve tried to peddle “fixer uppers”.

Clearly a sign that people with good quality houses are staying put, and it’s mostly probate and old people houses coming up for sale at the moment.
Sure, no problem with a fixer up but when it’s priced what a ‘doner up’ should be, they can fk off

LuckyThirteen

483 posts

21 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Advice for those nearing a completion date.

Every year, agents spout all sorts of waffle about what's possible in terms of dates before Christmas.

Check with your solicitor what date they stop, and restart.

Then, check the other firms of solicitors in the chain.

Agents can say whatever they want, but if one solicitor in the chain stops on the 18th, then everyone can aim for the 19/20/21 all they want but it won't happen.

I've seen this every year for decades now and it's the same story every time.

Most Conveyancers shut completely, including the conveyancer for the chap I met earlier. His agent this morning told him they would likely target the 30th December. He's this afternoon made them look like complete Muppets after going back and saying 'you do realise the solicitors are shut!'

So, check what dates the lawyers are actually working......

MuscleSedan

1,557 posts

177 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Greshamst said:
Good luck today!
MDUBZ said:
Good luck - the frustrating thing, which I’m sure you don’t want to hear, is that some of what you pack you’ll never use and probably throw away when you’re at the other end smile

18 months later we’re down to 1 box in the house ( pictures that need to go up) and 2 in the shed that still need sorting through when I get round to a shed sort out/ organising session. I’ve easily done 2 full car loads to the tip and we’ve shredded a st ton of paperwork; judging by some friends who moved 10 years ago they still have unopened boxes in the loft we’ve done quite well.

I wish I’d hired a skip and had a good clear out as we were packing (we had cleared out most of the crap in the loft 6 months before moving thankfully) especially as we moved ourselves and it was a back breaking day even before moving a load of things we didn’t need. It’s made me a bit more ruthless about keeping things I might never need although we have acquired a few more things on account of having more space now…
Thanks for the good luck wishes !

Without internet for a few days as no one seemed capable of sorting it on the actual move date. So down to phones for the time being which is a pain.

All went well moving on Friday, still a day to remember all the same. Was up at 5.30am, removals arrived well before 8am. They were just about loaded when I got the okay to get the keys to the new place at around midday. New place only up the road so no travelling time to speak of, everything was unloaded by 4pm.

Totally agree about getting a skip pre-move, ideally that is what I should have done. Having said that, we have gone to somewhere with a bit more room all round so easier to sort at this end as we just had as so much stuff with no spare room at all at the old place.

Place we have gone to is pretty much what we had hoped for, few odd jobs here and there, but nothing too drastic thrown up so far.










CoolHands

18,839 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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A colleague has finally exchanged on Friday, the buyers were the (Norfolk sort) we’ve seen in here where they created enormous stress by demanding all sorts of stupid st, reductions and clauses on the Friday afternoon of exchange. Pretty sure getting a kick out of the stress they caused, crazy clauses trying be being added like if the garage door can’t be fixed it would be replaced by one of the buyers choosing etc!

Some people are utter s

Lagom

552 posts

64 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Just had my offer accepted on a basket case near Wetherby, in the Yorkshire Golden Triangle, £100k less than the original asking price and £200k cheaper than the place next door was sold for in August 2022.

It's the house nobody wanted, sitting empty for 2 years & on the market for over 16 months. Needs a complete renovation, basically it's the worst house, in the best street, in a sought-after Yorkshire village so I should be in good place once the work is done.

It's a large 1950's stone built property which is liveable but has a rather individual floorplan. 4 beds/3 receptions, double garage, river in the back garden, 5min walk to the village pub etc. It needs dragging into the 21st C, remodeling, added curb appeal etc.

Not looking forward to dealing with architects and builders however, on the plus side there's no chain so hopefully things should go smoothly.

CT05 Nose Cone

25,018 posts

229 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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CoolHands said:
A colleague has finally exchanged on Friday, the buyers were the (Norfolk sort) we’ve seen in here where they created enormous stress by demanding all sorts of stupid st, reductions and clauses on the Friday afternoon of exchange. Pretty sure getting a kick out of the stress they caused, crazy clauses trying be being added like if the garage door can’t be fixed it would be replaced by one of the buyers choosing etc!

Some people are utter s
What happened, did they have to agree to it?

CoolHands

18,839 posts

197 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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I helped her write back an email to estate agent / their agent that vendor would pay for garage door to be serviced and if non repairable contribute £500 to a door of the buyers choosing. In other words pay them off 500 quid the grasping s. As I could be objective I pointed out that paying another few hundred quid to get it over the line was small fry in the scheme of things.

It got done but I don’t know all the ins and outs of other issues they were on about.

CoolHands

18,839 posts

197 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Lagom said:
Just had my offer accepted on a basket case near Wetherby, in the Yorkshire Golden Triangle, £100k less than the original asking price and £200k cheaper than the place next door was sold for in August 2022.

It's the house nobody wanted, sitting empty for 2 years & on the market for over 16 months. Needs a complete renovation, basically it's the worst house, in the best street, in a sought-after Yorkshire village so I should be in good place once the work is done.

It's a large 1950's stone built property which is liveable but has a rather individual floorplan. 4 beds/3 receptions, double garage, river in the back garden, 5min walk to the village pub etc. It needs dragging into the 21st C, remodeling, added curb appeal etc.

Not looking forward to dealing with architects and builders however, on the plus side there's no chain so hopefully things should go smoothly.
insulation will be key! No one can afford to heat homes nowadays

Mr Whippy

29,131 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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CT05 Nose Cone said:
CoolHands said:
A colleague has finally exchanged on Friday, the buyers were the (Norfolk sort) we’ve seen in here where they created enormous stress by demanding all sorts of stupid st, reductions and clauses on the Friday afternoon of exchange. Pretty sure getting a kick out of the stress they caused, crazy clauses trying be being added like if the garage door can’t be fixed it would be replaced by one of the buyers choosing etc!

Some people are utter s
What happened, did they have to agree to it?
I’d just fix it or reduce the price.

Having that in generic resi conveyancing contracts sounds quite dangerous and I’d be surprised if your conveyancer thought it sensible.

The buyer’s choosing is “Bespoke hand made garage doors of Edinburgh”


I’m amazed buyers don’t just use it to chip price. But to write in an open cheque in a legally binding contract?!

Lagom

552 posts

64 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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CoolHands said:
nsulation will be key! No one can afford to heat homes nowadays
Yep, it's 250m² so plenty of places to loose heat. Still early days but thinking of sacrificing the rear stone facade and rendering it over with an insulated layer, also there's no underfloor insulation and only about 50mm in the loft.

CT05 Nose Cone

25,018 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Mr Whippy said:
CT05 Nose Cone said:
CoolHands said:
A colleague has finally exchanged on Friday, the buyers were the (Norfolk sort) we’ve seen in here where they created enormous stress by demanding all sorts of stupid st, reductions and clauses on the Friday afternoon of exchange. Pretty sure getting a kick out of the stress they caused, crazy clauses trying be being added like if the garage door can’t be fixed it would be replaced by one of the buyers choosing etc!

Some people are utter s
What happened, did they have to agree to it?
I’d just fix it or reduce the price.

Having that in generic resi conveyancing contracts sounds quite dangerous and I’d be surprised if your conveyancer thought it sensible.

The buyer’s choosing is “Bespoke hand made garage doors of Edinburgh”


I’m amazed buyers don’t just use it to chip price. But to write in an open cheque in a legally binding contract?!
What a nightmare, easy to say call their bluff and refuse, but not so easy when you're standing there with the removal lorry.

After my last attempt at buying a house (the thread has gone, but was certainly eventful) I found another property that looked ideal. Seller took a week to consider the offer, then a first time buyer jumped in so they accepted theirs instead. The estate agent is sending me properties being sold by other vendors, which I assume is the polite way of telling me to get a move on, but very little is coming on the market and it must be the worst time of year to be looking.

That said, there is a house that's come up for sale on my street. Has to be worth a look given that it's a 30 second journey, but as stupid as it sounds living within view of my old house would just feel odd.

normalbloke

7,495 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Kavenco said:
While I'm not in the midst of a move at the moment, I've been through the process a few times, and it can indeed be both exciting and a bit daunting. When it comes to relocating, having a professional moving service can significantly ease the transition. They can handle the logistics, transportation, and heavy lifting, allowing you to focus on settling into your new place.
Is that you AI?

Greshamst

2,090 posts

122 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Potentially bad news for us

Mortgage valuation came back £85k under what we offered, and our offer was already at £40k under what the sale price was.

The value the bank have given is the same price the vendors paid 2 years ago.

We’re at 85% LTV (as we’re keeping our existing place) so not really much wiggle room for finding more ourselves.

pb8g09

2,419 posts

71 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Greshamst said:
Potentially bad news for us

Mortgage valuation came back £85k under what we offered, and our offer was already at £40k under what the sale price was.

The value the bank have given is the same price the vendors paid 2 years ago.

We’re at 85% LTV (as we’re keeping our existing place) so not really much wiggle room for finding more ourselves.
Bloody hell that's a big gap!

kingston12

5,512 posts

159 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Greshamst said:
Potentially bad news for us

Mortgage valuation came back £85k under what we offered, and our offer was already at £40k under what the sale price was.

The value the bank have given is the same price the vendors paid 2 years ago.

We’re at 85% LTV (as we’re keeping our existing place) so not really much wiggle room for finding more ourselves.
Have the vendors done much to the house since buying it two years ago? If not, I expect that would be a pretty accurate valuation, dependant on area of course.

Greshamst

2,090 posts

122 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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kingston12 said:
Greshamst said:
Potentially bad news for us

Mortgage valuation came back £85k under what we offered, and our offer was already at £40k under what the sale price was.

The value the bank have given is the same price the vendors paid 2 years ago.

We’re at 85% LTV (as we’re keeping our existing place) so not really much wiggle room for finding more ourselves.
Have the vendors done much to the house since buying it two years ago? If not, I expect that would be a pretty accurate valuation, dependant on area of course.
They’ve done cosmetic work internally (added window shutters, painted, a couple of new built in bookcases), it’s very well presented, but no major works.

That’s why we offered under the asking price.

St Albans is its own little bubble though. With 24 minute trains into the city, there’s plenty of London folk moving out/ people with good jobs doing the commute that are relatively sheltered from interest rate increases, so the market hasn’t had the slowdown that other parts have seen. It’s still up 3% every 6 months.