Show us your real estate pawn (vol 2)

[kiethton]

Looking at the hill the house sits half way up I really doubt the flooding (for the house itself) would be an issue, you may however suffer a little flooding to some of the low-lying gardens nearer the river on occasion but can't see it being much of an issue.

[Doofus]

It does look like everything except the house itself and the garage is in Flood Risk 3.

[NDA]

Doofus said:

It does look like everything except the house itself and the garage is in Flood Risk 3.

I know that area - being a Devonian and I also shoot near there. Lower Ashton is one of the areas definitely at risk every 5 years or so from serious flooding. I assume the vendors would have to declare if the house had been flooded?

[FourWheelDrift]

Check how new the kitchen, carpets and decor is.

[berlintaxi]

Yes please.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

[RC1807]

berlintaxi said:

Yes please.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

That does look very nice indeed. Listed places would always be a bit of a worry for me, though - rules to stick to.
That said, t'internet shows as Superfast 1000MB!?

[DonkeyApple]

RC1807 said:

berlintaxi said:

Yes please.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

That does look very nice indeed. Listed places would always be a bit of a worry for me, though - rules to stick to.
That said, t'internet shows as Superfast 1000MB!?

It looks like it was the staff cottages (low ceilings, long, narrow rooms where walls have been removed etc) opposite the hall originally and it's been heavily extended and then hugely gentrified at least twice as the panelling doesn't match. It also looks like it was hived off with most of the hall's garden out houses and orangery. The pond if original would have been for collecting ice over winter for underground storage for iced drinks and ice cream in summer. The view out the front looks like it might be the original hall/manor also.

It all looks lovely. And unlike the earlier building you wouldn't be forever answer the door to confused elderly people trying to return a book.

[mattyn1]

Apologies if these are reposts but I have not been back through the thread for a while:

Rather nice.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

A doer upper?

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

[RevsPerMinute]

Have we had this yet? The first time to come to market in 294 years!

I would figure it requires a little attention, but such good value.

Also check out how big the walled garden is! One would assume you would need staff in the double figures to keep this place looking tip top.

The proper way to spend money.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

[Justayellowbadge]

RevsPerMinute said:

Have we had this yet? The first time to come to market in 294 years!

I would figure it requires a little attention, but such good value.

Also check out how big the walled garden is! One would assume you would need staff in the double figures to keep this place looking tip top.

The proper way to spend money.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

Beautiful.

[Amateurish]

RevsPerMinute said:

Have we had this yet? The first time to come to market in 294 years!

I would figure it requires a little attention, but such good value.

Also check out how big the walled garden is! One would assume you would need staff in the double figures to keep this place looking tip top.

The proper way to spend money.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

Very nice indeed.

[QuartzDad]

RC1807 said:

berlintaxi said:

Yes please.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

That does look very nice indeed. Listed places would always be a bit of a worry for me, though - rules to stick to.
That said, t'internet shows as Superfast 1000MB!?

Yep, it's not too far from me - Hambleton was the first place Gigaclear delivered their FTTP 1Gbps service in 2011.

[Shnozz]

mattyn1 said:

Apologies if these are reposts but I have not been back through the thread for a while:

Rather nice.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

I'm from those parts originally and I think that looks good value.

My ex-girlfriend used to live in a beautiful house in the area - originally one of the maids houses for Boundary Oak that was then extended into a great house with superb gardens.

[Shnozz]

RC1807 said:

That does look very nice indeed. Listed places would always be a bit of a worry for me, though - rules to stick to.
That said, t'internet shows as Superfast 1000MB!?

I agree about listed property.

Anyone else been watching Escape to the Chateau on C4? I think the French concept around listing is much better. Either don't give any attention to it at all, or declare it listed and benefit from government subsidies and grants to assist in renovation costs.

[DKL]

Shnozz said:

I agree about listed property.

Anyone else been watching Escape to the Chateau on C4? I think the French concept around listing is much better. Either don't give any attention to it at all, or declare it listed and benefit from government subsidies and grants to assist in renovation costs.

There used to be a VAT rebate to be had but the last government revoked it. I imagine all that happens now is that people don't apply for the consent they did because there is no incentive.

[rival38]

IF `listed building consent` has not been sought / obtained from English Heritage for alterations or additions to a listed building it is deemed a `criminal offence`.

Ignoring the rules is a mugs game, because most solicitors will check thoroughly during the conveyancing process. Even unauthorised work on outbuildings `within the curtilage` of a listed building will throw up a red flag. It will matter not if PP and building control were satisfied.

Of course in practice, things do slip through and not all alterations actually need permission. The rules are not uniformally interpreted from officer to officer or area to area but ignoring them is courting a very expensive to correct problem.

[Shnozz]

Amazing how vulnerable listed places are to fire though, ey. Incredible when you think there is very few sources of ignition.

[FourWheelDrift]

Amazing also how listed buildings are actually not really well protected from some people's money ambition. Like the listed grade II Mappin & Webb building in London demolished in 1993 and replaced by the ugly pink striped monstrosity that Historic England have had the gall to now give grade II listed status to.

I wonder if anyone has ever used that as an example to do substantial work or alteration to their listed house?

[TheLordJohn]

People are holding on to listed buildings for years, running them into the ground and then either demolishing or vastly changing it as it's a mess.

[camshafted]

Re. the last few post: Here are a fascinating couple of planning stories I thought I'd share:

Firstly:
The poor owner Idlicote House near Stratford upon Avon in the Cotswolds is facing jail and a fine after he sold two unoriginal garden statues at auction, unaware they were listed. They were added to the estate in the 1970s and listed in the 1980s. He sold them at auction in 2009 to fund restoration work. They were bought by an anon overseas bidder. In 2013 Stratford upon Avon District Council found out about it. He applied for retrospective planning permission. It was rejected. He appealed. The High Court reject it last week. He has to reinstate the garden urns or face up to 7yrs / £100,000 fine. Problem is he has no idea where the urns are!

Story -- https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/manor-owner-mus...

(The house - https://www.onthemarket.com/details/1002501/ )

Secondly:
Did you know Church of England places of worship are exempt from the requirement to obtain listed building consent from local councils to undertake internal or external changes. I thought that was quite interesting.

So, there's a row in Bath at the moment after Bath Abbey proposed removing all fixed furniture to stabilise the collapsing floor of the Grade I Listed Abbey and install underfloor heating. Most of the Victorian furniture will now be removed permanently.

Story - http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/news/bath-news/camp...

Edited by camshafted on Thursday 5th October 16:09