Tenant broken boiler, refusing me access to check it

Tenant broken boiler, refusing me access to check it

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TheBinarySheep

Original Poster:

1,185 posts

53 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Parbold milkperson said:
In my experience it takes six months for DWP to deal with urgent cases.
We submitted a UC47 back in January, and later got the following email in response.

"Dear TheBinarySheep

Payment reference: TheScumInYourPropery

We received your application for direct rent payments for TENANT NAME HERE.

Your application has been approved and your payment is being set up.

The amount we pay you could vary.

This is because the amount of Universal Credit awarded to your tenant depends on their circumstances and how much they earn each month.

This arrangement is reviewed regularly to see if your tenant is able to manage their own rent payments or if payments to you should continue.

If your tenant moves out of the property or is no longer receiving Universal Credit, we'll stop making payments to you.

This email address cannot accept replies."

Then I got an email from a guy at UC Longbenton;

"I’m emailing to let you know you have been added to our systems and rent payments can now be made directly to you

Creditor name – My Name Here
Creditor Reference Number – XXXXXX"

I replied to his email asking if payments could be directed to the letting agent, and I got a confirmation response back to that to say it had been done.

Then I've not heard a dicky bird since.



Groat

5,637 posts

113 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Since......when? A week? A month? Longer??

Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
We submitted a UC47 back in January, and later got the following email in response.

"Dear TheBinarySheep

Payment reference: TheScumInYourPropery

We received your application for direct rent payments for TENANT NAME HERE.

Your application has been approved and your payment is being set up.

The amount we pay you could vary.

This is because the amount of Universal Credit awarded to your tenant depends on their circumstances and how much they earn each month.

This arrangement is reviewed regularly to see if your tenant is able to manage their own rent payments or if payments to you should continue.

If your tenant moves out of the property or is no longer receiving Universal Credit, we'll stop making payments to you.

This email address cannot accept replies."

Then I got an email from a guy at UC Longbenton;

"I’m emailing to let you know you have been added to our systems and rent payments can now be made directly to you

Creditor name – My Name Here
Creditor Reference Number – XXXXXX"

I replied to his email asking if payments could be directed to the letting agent, and I got a confirmation response back to that to say it had been done.

Then I've not heard a dicky bird since.
And you've not chased it raggedly and even raised a complaint?

Parbold milkperson

276 posts

38 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Why on earth did you spoil a good result by transferring payments to the agent? Pure madness I am out of hear

TheBinarySheep

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1,185 posts

53 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Groat said:
Since......when? A week? A month? Longer??
I've not heard anything from UC since the 29th January.

I kept asking the letting agent if they'd received anything, but they would tell me to wait a little longer because in their experience UC are usually very slow. We thought maybe we'd not been approved in time for a payment in February, but we would get one in March. When we didn't get a payment in March, we started the process of sorting the section 8.

Parbold milkperson

276 posts

38 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Have they actually done a moonlight flit already?

TheBinarySheep

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1,185 posts

53 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Parbold milkperson said:
Why on earth did you spoil a good result by transferring payments to the agent? Pure madness I am out of hear
Why, because that's what the letting agent asked us to do.

TheBinarySheep

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1,185 posts

53 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Parbold milkperson said:
Have they actually done a moonlight flit already?
I don't believe so, there was someone in the property when I delivered the section 8 a couple of weeks ago.

Parbold milkperson

276 posts

38 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
We submitted a UC47 back in January, and later got the following email in response.

"Dear TheBinarySheep

Payment reference: TheScumInYourPropery

We received your application for direct rent payments for TENANT NAME HERE.

Your application has been approved and your payment is being set up.

The amount we pay you could vary.

This is because the amount of Universal Credit awarded to your tenant depends on their circumstances and how much they earn each month.

This arrangement is reviewed regularly to see if your tenant is able to manage their own rent payments or if payments to you should continue.

If your tenant moves out of the property or is no longer receiving Universal Credit, we'll stop making payments to you.

This email address cannot accept replies."
You have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory
Then I got an email from a guy at UC Longbenton;

"I’m emailing to let you know you have been added to our systems and rent payments can now be made directly to you

Creditor name – My Name Here
Creditor Reference Number – XXXXXX"

I replied to his email asking if payments could be directed to the letting agent, and I got a confirmation response back to that to say it had been done.

Then I've not heard a dicky bird since.
Do you know how incompetent you really are?

Edited by Parbold milkperson on Tuesday 27th April 10:24

Parbold milkperson

276 posts

38 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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KAgantua said:
Im calling troll.
Just like that guy from Brent

TheBinarySheep

Original Poster:

1,185 posts

53 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Parbold milkperson said:
Do you know how incompetent you really are?

Edited by Parbold milkperson on Tuesday 27th April 10:24
I'm an incompetent landlord.... you know what, I'd agree. Hence why we found a local letting agent to take things over.

I don't want to be a landlord, I'm not cut out for it.

bungz

1,961 posts

122 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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I only come here to read the Groats responses biggrin

Groat

5,637 posts

113 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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TheBinarySheep said:
I'm an incompetent landlord.... you know what, I'd agree. Hence why we found a local letting agent to take things over.

I don't want to be a landlord, I'm not cut out for it.
No. You found a predatory conman wholly incompetent to deal with the matter which is as easy to spot a mile off as it is to spot the POS who you gave the keys to.

This is not destined to end well. Sell it. You will make a loss. Everyone in business does sometimes. With that loss will come a feeling of relief. In a years time it will not feel nearly as bad. In 10 years it’ll be forgotten.

Get a job. With a pension. Put any surplus money into an ISA. Breed. Spend some money on family frivolities. Grow old. Retire on that pension plus SP plus the odd withdrawal from the ISA for special treats. Die.

Meanwhile, the lowlife who buys your flat will pay the local adolescent villains to steal a car, hoody mask and gloves, knock that bd tenant into ICU for a month and then park the stoler thru the front window of the letting agents and set it alight.

The scum tenant’s invisible man will flee in terror, the SWD will whisk the kids into care, and the lowlife will make the property lettable and put his own choice of tenant into it where they will live quietly and peacefully for the next twenty years.

For the moment, today, regardless of how many emails and phone calls you have to make, get the fking rent suspended and confirmation in writing from a named person that it has been done.

MDMA .

9,034 posts

103 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Groat said:
Get a job. With a pension. Put any surplus money into an ISA. Breed. Spend some money on family frivolities. Grow old. Retire on that pension plus SP plus the odd withdrawal from the ISA for special treats. Die.

Wear sunscreen.

dingg

4,032 posts

221 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Groat said:
No. You found a predatory conman wholly incompetent to deal with the matter which is as easy to spot a mile off as it is to spot the POS who you gave the keys to.

This is not destined to end well. Sell it. You will make a loss. Everyone in business does sometimes. With that loss will come a feeling of relief. In a years time it will not feel nearly as bad. In 10 years it’ll be forgotten.

Get a job. With a pension. Put any surplus money into an ISA. Breed. Spend some money on family frivolities. Grow old. Retire on that pension plus SP plus the odd withdrawal from the ISA for special treats. Die.

Meanwhile, the lowlife who buys your flat will pay the local adolescent villains to steal a car, hoody mask and gloves, knock that bd tenant into ICU for a month and then park the stoler thru the front window of the letting agents and set it alight.

The scum tenant’s invisible man will flee in terror, the SWD will whisk the kids into care, and the lowlife will make the property lettable and put his own choice of tenant into it where they will live quietly and peacefully for the next twenty years.

For the moment, today, regardless of how many emails and phone calls you have to make, get the fking rent suspended and confirmation in writing from a named person that it has been done.
Great post 👍

KAgantua

3,961 posts

133 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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MDMA . said:
Groat said:
Get a job. With a pension. Put any surplus money into an ISA. Breed. Spend some money on family frivolities. Grow old. Retire on that pension plus SP plus the odd withdrawal from the ISA for special treats. Die.

Wear sunscreen.
If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it

KAgantua

3,961 posts

133 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Parbold milkperson said:
KAgantua said:
Im calling troll.
Just like that guy from Brent
Wouldnt surprise me if it were the same person.
Crazy situation.
Asks advice.
Ignores.
Gets worse.
Back for more advice.
Given.
Ignores.

Loop forever.

eldar

21,941 posts

198 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Groat said:
TheBinarySheep said:
I'm an incompetent landlord.... you know what, I'd agree. Hence why we found a local letting agent to take things over.

I don't want to be a landlord, I'm not cut out for it.
No. You found a predatory conman wholly incompetent to deal with the matter which is as easy to spot a mile off as it is to spot the POS who you gave the keys to.

This is not destined to end well. Sell it. You will make a loss. Everyone in business does sometimes. With that loss will come a feeling of relief. In a years time it will not feel nearly as bad. In 10 years it’ll be forgotten.

Get a job. With a pension. Put any surplus money into an ISA. Breed. Spend some money on family frivolities. Grow old. Retire on that pension plus SP plus the odd withdrawal from the ISA for special treats. Die.

Meanwhile, the lowlife who buys your flat will pay the local adolescent villains to steal a car, hoody mask and gloves, knock that bd tenant into ICU for a month and then park the stoler thru the front window of the letting agents and set it alight.

The scum tenant’s invisible man will flee in terror, the SWD will whisk the kids into care, and the lowlife will make the property lettable and put his own choice of tenant into it where they will live quietly and peacefully for the next twenty years.

For the moment, today, regardless of how many emails and phone calls you have to make, get the fking rent suspended and confirmation in writing from a named person that it has been done.
Alternatively, get shot of the tenant by whatever means necessary.

Then treat the landlording bit as a proper business. Understand the legislation, find a good competent agent to manage the day to day organisation and tenant management.

You've found the pitfall of amateur property investment. Learn from it.

crispian22

964 posts

194 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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If the electric meter is on the outside,I'd be buying a friendly sparks a good drink to go round and pull the main fuse. ;-)

And I'd be turning the stop tap off in the street and pouring a bag of post mix down there too.

All hypothesis of course.

Flumpo

3,894 posts

75 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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KAgantua said:
Parbold milkperson said:
KAgantua said:
Im calling troll.
Just like that guy from Brent
Wouldnt surprise me if it were the same person.
Crazy situation.
Asks advice.
Ignores.
Gets worse.
Back for more advice.
Given.
Ignores.

Loop forever.
Couldn’t sleep last night and read this from start to finish.

I think your post I maybe a bit unfair on the OP. Reading it as one it’s clear that the OP has been honest all the way through he isn’t cut out for this, doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing and is a conman/woman’s soft touch dream.

He’s also had conflicting advice shouted at him that follow the main strands:

1- sell the property ASAP you idiot
2- don’t sell the property get another tenant you idiot
3- get the UC direct and keep this tenant you idiot
4- evict tenant at all costs you idiot
5- background noise of other rubbish advice/insults/f sausages

He doesn’t have a clue who here is talking nonsense, probably confused by usernames and the fact several people all vehemently support one of the above as the ONLY course of action and think he should ignore all other options.

The only person who seems to be talking sense is this goat guy, but for all the OP knows this guy is a wind up - although I suspect not.

The only advice the OP should have taken is to contact a fking professional like a solicitor or the guy off channel 5 and not expect to get a consistent or reliable answer off a sub forum on a motoring website know to be full of argumentative s.