ive got to fit some ikea cabinets in our utility room, its a

ive got to fit some ikea cabinets in our utility room, its a

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Simpo Two

85,823 posts

267 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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soda said:
I'd recommend a batten for fitting, keeps it all level and allows you to rest the units on it while getting the screws in. Batten can be removed or left in place
Now that's a great idea. You get the welcome extra support and levelness while fixing, then remove it. Genius.

singlecoil

33,938 posts

248 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Simpo Two said:
soda said:
I'd recommend a batten for fitting, keeps it all level and allows you to rest the units on it while getting the screws in. Batten can be removed or left in place
Now that's a great idea. You get the welcome extra support and levelness while fixing, then remove it. Genius.
If you don't have proper hanging brackets then it's easily the best solution. On the other hand, if you do have proper hanging brackets, then it's not necessary, just put the wall plates, or rail, in roughly the right place, lift the cabinet up til it hooks over, then the cabinet will stay there while you adjust it. Easy one man job.

If you are forced to use the batten method because the manufacturer has saved a couple of quid, then you will need someone to hold the cabinet in place while you fix it.

stolt

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420 posts

188 months

Saturday 9th July 2011
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thanks once again for all the help and advice, the parents had the kids over tonight so me and the missus went to ikea and had to make a plan on there computer system but someone eventually came to is with us, if anything it helped us on the system and there online planner tool. think we have come up with a workable solution, might post a pic up and see if anyone else can come up with something better.

singlecoil

33,938 posts

248 months

Saturday 9th July 2011
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stolt said:
might post a pic up and see if anyone else can come up with something better.
Better than Ikea? Now there's a challenge.

gtidriver

3,362 posts

189 months

Saturday 9th July 2011
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Or you could work out where the brackets are going to go the cut strips of plaster board out and screw ply board into the slots then screw the brackets into that.

stolt

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420 posts

188 months

Saturday 9th July 2011
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Hi everyone, been busy today painting the dinning room, we when to ikea last night and just managed to get it sorted, didnt realise if you planned it using there online planner then save it go into the stre and then you can show the people there to have a look by logging back in.


heres a floorplan, as i say it not a big room, the pink pipes are hot and cold and they come down the wall and then across low ( when they come across the room i will have to box them in i was thinking of creating a full length false wall to hide them all.




heres also a pic of what we will have for ikea aswell

















mrsxllifts

2,501 posts

201 months

Saturday 9th July 2011
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We tried various plasterboard fixings and weren't happy with any of them so in the end drilled through the plasterboard, into the block work and fixed some lengths of M8 studding with resin! Units seem secure now.

stolt

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420 posts

188 months

Sunday 10th July 2011
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hi everyone, ive took some pics today of the utility room, got a few probs, the sink is very close to the the sockets, and also the water pipes come down the wall and across and thats where i want the big cupbaord to pull out, ive cut the plaster board away and i reckon i can push the pipes a bit closer to the brick wall and thereby making a few cm's space, the rest i will create a false wall for.








cjs

10,795 posts

253 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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My advice would be to scrap the base units and built in appliances, just put a work top across free-standing appliances. You'll get a far greater choice of appliances, save lots of money and have easy access when they go wrong/leak.

As for fixing the wall units, if the wall is dot and dab then, as already mentioned, drill through the PB into the wall and use 3/4" screws and brown plugs.

Blank off the socket over the sink or move it down under the work surface and use it for your two appliances.

Edited by cjs on Monday 11th July 08:50


Edited by cjs on Monday 11th July 08:52


Edited by cjs on Monday 11th July 08:53

Simpo Two

85,823 posts

267 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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cjs said:
drill through the PB into the wall and use 3/4" screws
I think you must mean 3-4" screws; a 3/4 screw is not going to reach the wall through the cabinet rear/bracket, plasterboard (12mm) and airgap.

stolt

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420 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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hi looking to buy a integrated washing machine and a freezer, its for a utility room and we are using a ikea kitchen.

What makes to go for really, i understand miele seems to get the vote but buget is around £450.00 for each appliance.

thanks

S1_RS

782 posts

201 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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Why did you dot & dab the plasterboard on the wall when there's going to be very little of the wall on show. Could it not be take back to bare wall which would make the cabinet fixings easier and give you an extra inch in what is already a tiny room. I assume the remaining wall on show will be tiled anyway?

stolt

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420 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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S1_RS said:
Why did you dot & dab the plasterboard on the wall when there's going to be very little of the wall on show. Could it not be take back to bare wall which would make the cabinet fixings easier and give you an extra inch in what is already a tiny room. I assume the remaining wall on show will be tiled anyway?
that bit of plastering is where the tiles were and i took them off the wall and it took the plasterboard with it, in one of the cupboards will be the boiler and ext to that will be the main consumer unit. so a fair bit of wiring in those walls..

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

232 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Why on earth isn't the tall unit level with the wall units at the top??????

singlecoil

33,938 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Arthur Jackson said:
Why on earth isn't the tall unit level with the wall units at the top??????
smile

And I like the way the tall unit is left hand hinged (so that the door is in the way when accessing the contents). I expect they did it that way because the pull-out baskets would be trapped by the door if it was right hand hinged.


stolt

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420 posts

188 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Arthur Jackson said:
Why on earth isn't the tall unit level with the wall units at the top??????
We are having the wall units as flush with the ceiling as possible, missus thinks that if there's a gap left there it becomes a dust trap, so we are going to by an additional door panel and cut it down and put an end panel on the side. The trouble is I was going to a false wall on top of the units but the consumer unit is flush with the ceiling and will be hidden by one of the cupboard housings.

blueg33

36,322 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Sorry - Off Topic

Just noticed your washing machine - we have that one and it is the only electronic product I have ever owned that I can't suss out how to work. It is extremely counter intuitive.

And on topic - when I did my utility, I copied the kitchen fitters, and they used frame screws as previously suggested, screwed through to the brick/block wall behind. However, if you have thermalite or similar blocks they may be too soft to retain the screw.

stolt

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420 posts

188 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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i give up, still arguing with the missus, i'd rather she just pay the money and get someone in to do the kitchen then me, not looking forward to it and i reckon its going to be really hard to do, it wont look professionally done and so say i'm fed up aint the half of it. she wants integrated on both appliances and she said we can just box in the top of the tall unit and make it look like a false wall. So thanks for all the help and suggestions, shes not going to listen, so i'm not going to bother.... just hope she doesnt think the funds for my car purchase are going to be used!!