Can we park outside our garage?

Can we park outside our garage?

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Mr Whippy

29,159 posts

243 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Also, depending on many other factors, it’d be well worth just all moving garages back 5m and then having decent parking spaces and garages and turning area…
Guess it could just become the same issue again with two parked cars and a rubbish tip garage though.

dobly

1,221 posts

161 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Did your written estate agent details say that you had a parking space and a garage, or just a parking space (which is in the garage)?
You could argue that the garage and the parking space were just described individually in different parts of the particulars....

Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Where I live is a small road also, if someone parks on the apex of shining onto a drove it means you can't get onto a drive. OP it's obvious why would you lazily park across the front of your garage blocking someone from getting into theirs?

Forget any legal argument.

James6112

4,582 posts

30 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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treechopman said:
Well, therein lies the issue. The house has sold with us saying there was a parking space out the back. Now our neighbours are saying we shouldn't have advertised that. Hence the somewhat tricky situation making us a bit nervous. I don't want to have provided false information, but on the other hand I can't see anything that legally says we were wrong. To be honest we could have sold the house without mentioning the space in question but the sale went through before this became an issue.
You haven’t actually sold the house yet. Someone had said they’ll buy it (subject to their checks, or if the wind changes direction before money changes hands)
Surely it’s up to the buyers solicitors to check out the small print etc etc.
If you’re worried about it, get your solicitors to highlight the parking section of deeds etc to the buyers.

If they still want it, great. If they whinge or want money off, tell them no & relist.
It’s a sellers market.

Canon_Fodder

1,771 posts

65 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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AlexRS2782 said:
Canon_Fodder said:
paulrockliffe said:
Surprised none of the posters that actually know about this stuff have contributed, OP I would wait until an expert does, because so far the advice you've been given is only one step above speculation. Including from me.
It's rather unfortunate that this was transferred into 'Homes & DIY' rather than S,P&TL
If it was moved to SP&L then OP wouldn't be able to reply at all due to posting restrictions for new accounts in that subforum.
Oh I see, thanks, I hadn't realised that

blueg33

36,530 posts

226 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Quite simply, you need to look at the rights and restrictions on the titles of both yours and the neighbours property. See if it mentions that bit of land or the garage.

The is a slim chance that the neighbour has prescriptive rights, but it’s really hard to acquire these if the land is sometimes occupied by a parked car. The fact that they argue your parked car blocks their access undermines any argument about prescription.

Note. Legal rights are not the same as pragmatic hood neighbourlyness.

treechopman

Original Poster:

6 posts

25 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Thanks all. Question, what if our deed doesn't mention the garage or this space? Then who is in the right?

blueg33

36,530 posts

226 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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treechopman said:
Thanks all. Question, what if our deed doesn't mention the garage or this space? Then who is in the right?
You can park on it. Unless they can demonstrate rights by prescription, see my comment above.

Jeremy-75qq8

1,055 posts

94 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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If the op owned the land then surely they can park a cad on it unless anyone else has a right of way over it - which would be in the deeds.

The legal problem I would imagine is actually that of the other garage owner not the op. If they have a garage with no right of way for access that is their issue.

This is not about what is reasonable etc but what is the legal position for the sale of a house.

Parking is also evidenced by the Google earth pics.

I cannot see the issue from a legal standpoint ( which is all that matters from the op perspective )

67Dino

3,597 posts

107 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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I had a similar issue selling a property in a complex. Everyone parked outside their garages, and you could see this on Google Maps. So that’s what I put on the details: “parking space and garage”.

The buyer’s conveyancer questioned it, we checked, and sure enough they were correct - there was no right to park outside garages, apparently the area should be left clear for access. I’d had the place for years and had no idea, it’s certainly what people did.

So we went back and said exactly that: “technically you’ve no right, but everyone does and you can see they do on Google”. The buyer accepted it and sale was done.

I’d do the same personally. Admit it’s unclear but say that it’s never been a problem.


blueg33

36,530 posts

226 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Jeremy-75qq8 said:
If the op owned the land then surely they can park a cad on it unless anyone else has a right of way over it - which would be in the deeds.

The legal problem I would imagine is actually that of the other garage owner not the op. If they have a garage with no right of way for access that is their issue.

This is not about what is reasonable etc but what is the legal position for the sale of a house.

Parking is also evidenced by the Google earth pics.

I cannot see the issue from a legal standpoint ( which is all that matters from the op perspective )
A right by prescription will not be in the deeds. That’s the bit the op can’t be sure about.