Which paint for ceilings? and which for skirting/coving/etc.

Which paint for ceilings? and which for skirting/coving/etc.

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Matt..

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3,632 posts

191 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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I am just about ready to start painting my entire house (though still have much woodwork sanding to go!), so need to decide on paint. It all needs to be white, and not white than becomes yellow! None of it can be gloss, as i do not want a shiny look anywhere.

All woodwork is currently painted (white), or varnished. They're all getting sanded, and primed/undercoated.

My current guess would be this: http://www.duluxdecoratorcentre.co.uk/servlet/Prod...

Before anyone says, yes, i have good brushes! Proform Picasso's and Wooster FTP's.


(For your info, i've never painted anything before. This is my first house, and my first go at DIY, so i don't really know anything!).

ch108

1,127 posts

135 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Woodwork such as skirtings has to be gloss or sanded and varnished/stained. I could be wrong but I'm sure emulsion is not really designed for wood. If you use gloss on the skirting once its dried the gloss effect should die down. For ceilings and plaster walls matt emulsion is what you need, avoid sheen emulsion especially on ceilings if you don't want a shiny effect.

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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dulux satinwood white for your woodwork ....undercoat first to stop it from yellowing.
emulsion for walls and ceilings.... personally I like Johnstones kitchen and bathroom wipe clean paint as it can, as it says, be wiped clean... handy when you have kids and pets or are particularly messy.

Spudler

3,985 posts

198 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Dulux eggshell Trade for the woodwork and a decent emulsion for walls and ceiling.

ATTAK Z

11,534 posts

191 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Stained woodwork needs to be sealed before undercoating ... don't ask me what with, but I know you can't just apply paint over stain

Matt..

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3,632 posts

191 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Spudler said:
Dulux eggshell Trade for the woodwork and a decent emulsion for walls and ceiling.
http://www.duluxdecoratorcentre.co.uk/servlet/Prod...
Clearly states there that it will discolour, so that's one isn't going to be suitable!


This one doesn't say it will discolour, but i'm not sure on the shine with satinwood? I don't want shine at all.
http://www.duluxdecoratorcentre.co.uk/servlet/Prod...

Edited by Matt.. on Sunday 20th July 19:57

mgtony

4,027 posts

192 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Matt.. rotate

SAB888

3,260 posts

209 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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mgtony said:
Matt.. rotate
Or matt, Matt!

B17NNS

18,506 posts

249 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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They all discolour/yellow nowadays to some extent. A quality eggshell for the woodwork and a vinyl matt for the walls/ceiling/cove. I like Dulus Trade personally.

Spudler

3,985 posts

198 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Matt.. said:
Spudler said:
Dulux eggshell Trade for the woodwork and a decent emulsion for walls and ceiling.
http://www.duluxdecoratorcentre.co.uk/servlet/Prod...
Clearly states there that it will discolour, so that's one isn't going to be suitable!
Which is why you'd use waterbased.

rb5er

11,657 posts

174 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Satin or eggshell on the woodwork for a topcoat with no shine. You will need at least 1 or 2 coats of good undercoat first. It all yellows somewhat over the years, nothing you can do about that except to redecorate every 5 years or so.

Matt emulsion for the walls and ceilings.

neth27

461 posts

119 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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I researched all this before decorating my house, After reading lots of reviews by professional decorators i went with,
Little Greene absolute matt emulsion for the walls and ceilings (loft white)
Woodwork i used Zinnser bulls eye 123 primer/under coat. Top coat Sikkens Rubbol BL Satura satin white (not oil based)
I would highly recommend all of them

John..

JungleJim

2,337 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Preperation is key.
And if you gloss don't load your brush too much or you'll get lots if runs. Go for several thin coats, trying to do one thicker coat won't work!

Pooky67

577 posts

161 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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OP,

I did my whole house with the woodwork paint in your first link and can highly recommend it. We'd never used water based paint before so it took a while to get used to. Once we'd learnt that we should be using a wet (with water) brush and wiping a damp cloth over the surface to be painted, it went a lot easier. All our doors and skirtings are still looking fresh some three years old now.

For the ceilings can't beat Dulux SuperMatt

DrDoofenshmirtz

15,345 posts

202 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Johnstones Aqua water based paints are the best IMO...
http://www.johnstonestrade.com/Products.aspx
I would go for a Satin, rather than Matt personally.

It won't yellow and is hardwearing (plus you can wash your brushes in water). I woulden't even consider any oil based (white) paints these days - they ALL go yellow eventually.

RichB

51,870 posts

286 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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I always use Crown Trade Eggshell White on the woodwork. It hasn't shown any sign of yellowing and some of it is getting on for 8 years old now. My skirtings and architraves were varnished pine and we used 1 coat of Zinsser cover stain primer and 1 coat of crown Trade undercoat then the Eggshell - works fine. Ceilings, any decent quality white matt emulsion - probably Dulux or Crown.

rb5er

11,657 posts

174 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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RichB said:
I always use Crown Trade Eggshell White on the woodwork. It hasn't shown any sign of yellowing and some of it is getting on for 8 years old now.
Don`t get me wrong I`m sure it still looks nice and clean but its pretty much guaranteed that if you painted something nearby today you would notice how the old paint has indeed yellowed.

It always does.

Craikeybaby

10,462 posts

227 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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DrDoofenshmirtz said:
Johnstones Aqua water based paints are the best IMO...
http://www.johnstonestrade.com/Products.aspx
I would go for a Satin, rather than Matt personally.

It won't yellow and is hardwearing (plus you can wash your brushes in water). I woulden't even consider any oil based (white) paints these days - they ALL go yellow eventually.
This is what I use after reconsiderations on PH and have been pleased with it.

RichB

51,870 posts

286 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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rb5er said:
RichB said:
I always use Crown Trade Eggshell White on the woodwork. It hasn't shown any sign of yellowing and some of it is getting on for 8 years old now.
Don`t get me wrong I`m sure it still looks nice and clean but its pretty much guaranteed that if you painted something nearby today you would notice how the old paint has indeed yellowed.

It always does.
I hear what you are saying but you are wrong. Because of the way we approached the decoration it has progressed over a number of years and there are several instances of fresh white against older paint. No yellowing at all, fresh as a daisy.