Secure lock recommendation for up and over garage door

Secure lock recommendation for up and over garage door

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AC43

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11,558 posts

210 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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I'm moving next week to a house with (what remains of) a garage.

Until I develop it I'll use the garage for storage, beer fridge, etc.

It's got one of those wobbly metal up and over doors with a rubbish lock.

I'd like to make it a bit more secure but also easily accessible (see beer fridge....)

What would you recommend.

Turn7

23,730 posts

223 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Esily accesbile and security dont go hand in hand sadly.....

Most up and overs are usually just peeled back at the corners for access, so a good hasp and padlock in each bottom corner would be my advice.

jfdi

1,072 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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foxsasha

1,417 posts

137 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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I used a pair of these at a previous address. Had the metal plates powdercoated to match the door so they weren't so conspicuous. They definitely worked, woke up one winters morning (4am), looked out of the window to see footprints in the freshly fallen snow leading up the drive. Went out to investigate and they'd parked a van two doors down, three of them had got out, walked up the drive to the garage door, round the side of the garage past the window (with internal metal grill), to the garage back door and then left empty handed. The security was deterrent enough.

http://www.bulldog-security-products.co.uk/view/bu...

Edited by foxsasha on Thursday 23 June 08:03

Lesgrandepotato

372 posts

101 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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jfdi said:
Spot on with those, quick and easy to fit and makes it much more secure

AC43

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Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Turn7 said:
Esily accesbile and security dont go hand in hand sadly.....

Most up and overs are usually just peeled back at the corners for access, so a good hasp and padlock in each bottom corner would be my advice.
Thanks.

AC43

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jfdi said:
That's the sort of thing I was thinking about

AC43

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foxsasha said:
I used a pair of these at a previous address. Had the metal plates powdercoated to match the door so they weren't so conspicuous. They definitely worked, woke up one winters morning (4am), looked out of the window to see footprints in th freshly fallen snow leading up the drive. Went out to investigate and they'd parked a van two doors down, three of them had got out, walked up the drive to the garage door, round the side of the garage past ten window (with internal metal grill) and then to the garage back door and then left empty handed. The security was deterrent enough.

http://www.bulldog-security-products.co.uk/view/bu...
Getting more heavy duty....

Mattt

16,661 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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I had an old one previously, drilled the top and bolted it shut when car was inside.

Gunk

3,302 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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If you can access the garage from inside the house, easiest solution is to drill through the side of the up and over door (low down) both sides and in to the timber frame and insert Allen keys as bolts. I've been using this method for years, I also wrap a cable tie around the bent end of the Allen key to aid removal. It makes the door impossible to open from the outside.

AC43

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Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Mattt said:
I had an old one previously, drilled the top and bolted it shut when car was inside.
Ha ha. The ultimate. But what about my beer?

(not that I think the beer fridge should actually go there bit that's for another time....)

AC43

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Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Gunk said:
If you can access the garage from inside the house, easiest solution is to drill through the side of the up and over door (low down) both sides and in to the timber frame and insert Allen keys as bolts. I've been using this method for years, I also wrap a cable tie around the bent end of the Allen key to aid removal. It makes the door impossible to open from the outside.
Neat but no I can't get in from the inside.

moorx

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116 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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AC43

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Thursday 23rd June 2016
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moorx said:
That's what my wife wants.

I'm tempted by the corner bolt-things as the door is bendy if someone really wants to get it.

Might get both......



Evanivitch

20,432 posts

124 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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moorx said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks like a simple job for a hacksaw, let alone a grinder.

AC43

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Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Evanivitch said:
moorx said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks like a simple job for a hacksaw, let alone a grinder.
My conclusion is that I'll go belt and braces - one of them to deter opportunists and a couple of side bolts to make it harder.

joestifff

786 posts

108 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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AC43 said:
Evanivitch said:
moorx said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks like a simple job for a hacksaw, let alone a grinder.
My conclusion is that I'll go belt and braces - one of them to deter opportunists and a couple of side bolts to make it harder.
Very very very easy to bend an up and over garage past those. They also act as the opposite of a deterrent, they may give passes by the idea that it's not worth breaking in, but the big boys will know you have something worth looking at.

Best idea is to secure without being obvious. those side bolts are good. or big lumps of timber braces top and bottom of garage internally.

telecat

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243 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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AC43 said:
jfdi said:
That's the sort of thing I was thinking about
Works pretty well. Thief couldn't get into ours with these fitted. Mind He'd done so much damage to the door and locks we couldn't get in either.

foxsasha

1,417 posts

137 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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AC43 said:
That's what my wife wants.

I'm tempted by the corner bolt-things as the door is bendy if someone really wants to get it.

Might get both......
I didn't like any aspect of those. Too vulnerable to attack and whats to stop the door being bent round it? Crowbar under bottom edge of door next to the lock thing, prise the door up a little, put a low car jack into the space created by the crowbar, jack door up until it can be prised and forced past the lock. Have another look at the ones I linked to and then think about how youd attack them or the door they're protecting assuming you fit one to each door corner, a foot or so from each edge.

Gunk

3,302 posts

161 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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AC43 said:
foxsasha said:
I used a pair of these at a previous address. Had the metal plates powdercoated to match the door so they weren't so conspicuous. They definitely worked, woke up one winters morning (4am), looked out of the window to see footprints in th freshly fallen snow leading up the drive. Went out to investigate and they'd parked a van two doors down, tzhree of them had got out, walked up the drive to the garage door, round the side of the garage past ten window (with internal metal grill) and then to the garage back door and then left empty handed. The security was deterrent enough.

http://www.bulldog-security-products.co.uk/view/bu...
Getting more heavy duty....
That just shouts out "I've got valuable stuff in my garage" the Enfield locks are much more "stealth"