Shower leak - what do you reckon?

Shower leak - what do you reckon?

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President Merkin

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4,297 posts

32 months

Thursday 28th September 2023
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Pulled my shower screen out today. It's been leaking either end & caused some damage to the adjacent plasterboard. It's a screen that slots into channels & I'm wondering what's the best route to rectify. Initial thoughts are silicone the base of the channel interiors as that seems the obvious point of water egress?


Open to suggestions but want to nip it in the bud before it becomes a major issue.






James-gbg1e

393 posts

93 months

Thursday 28th September 2023
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Not sure what advice you're looking for tbh.

Remove the silicon, reseal the tray with a decent bead that's thicker than the existing one.

Cheat code: put water and a little fairy liquid in a water spritz, apply the silicone, spray liberally then use your finger to profile the bead.

Otherwise, no idea.

blueg33

40,287 posts

237 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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It’s normal to silicone the outside rather than the inside

Crumpet

4,274 posts

193 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Is that a screen with no button runner / guide rail? Presumably to give a flush walk-in effect? Seems a very poor design to me and asking for trouble.

That could easily be water passing underneath the door and wicking its way into the wall rather than getting past the silicone sealant around the frame.

President Merkin

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4,297 posts

32 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Sorry, I should have been clearer. I built the shower three years ago. It's tiled onto aquapanel & tanked throughout with additional waterproof tape between the bottom tile course and the tray. All siliconed around three internal sides of the base & externally at the screen & still water is leaking, so the question should have been what have I missed?

un1eash

634 posts

153 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Did you seal the base to the tiles before putting in the upright? I had someone fit a similar shower in my old house and he sealed everything after but that allowed for a gap behind the vertical rail to allow water out.
Have you also mounted the rail to the wall and not the tiles? You should only ever seal on the outside so it allows any water that gets in the rails to run back into the shower tray.


Edited by un1eash on Friday 29th September 08:13


Edited by un1eash on Friday 29th September 08:15

President Merkin

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4,297 posts

32 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Yes, the order was base, tiles, seal base & tiles junction with silicone. I have run a bead of silicone between the tiles & the internal side of the profile, base to top. The outside of the profile is siliconed externally as it should be. The profile is fixed to the wall, not the tiles.

President Merkin

Original Poster:

4,297 posts

32 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Crumpet said:
Is that a screen with no button runner / guide rail? Presumably to give a flush walk-in effect? Seems a very poor design to me and asking for trouble.

That could easily be water passing underneath the door and wicking its way into the wall rather than getting past the silicone sealant around the frame.
No, the screen slots into the profile channels you can see in the pictures, It's been removed to investigate the leaks. It's an idiosyncracy of the inherited design that the tiles run up to the profile & not past it, therefore the profile abuts the tiling rather than sits on top of it.

Crumpet

4,274 posts

193 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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President Merkin said:
No, the screen slots into the profile channels you can see in the pictures, It's been removed to investigate the leaks. It's an idiosyncracy of the inherited design that the tiles run up to the profile & not past it, therefore the profile abuts the tiling rather than sits on top of it.
Ah, gotcha! It’s the side panel. I guess the proper thing to do would be remove the channel and redo it correctly including resealing the base to the tiles. I did all mine with silicone on just the outside, as was recommended.

anonymous-user

67 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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President Merkin said:
No, the screen slots into the profile channels you can see in the pictures, It's been removed to investigate the leaks. It's an idiosyncracy of the inherited design that the tiles run up to the profile & not past it, therefore the profile abuts the tiling rather than sits on top of it.
That’s the problem I believe.
The profile should be fixed on top of the tiles & sealed on the outside only. I know this from bitter experience!
But you are where you are. The area highlighted in red looks the best area to target . Plenty of silicone around there, you’d think it would be impossible to leak then!

Road2Ruin

5,822 posts

229 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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We had this with a slightly different design. The fitter didn't seal behind the shower frame. The frame lets water into it and then runs behind under the tiles and so on to the floor. The only solution was to remove the frame, seal and refit. A right pain, but it worked.

President Merkin

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4,297 posts

32 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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James6112 said:
That’s the problem I believe.
The profile should be fixed on top of the tiles & sealed on the outside only. I know this from bitter experience!
But you are where you are. The area highlighted in red looks the best area to target . Plenty of silicone around there, you’d think it would be impossible to leak then!
Just not possible to move the profile unfortunately, it would involve ripping out the entire enclosure & starting again from scratch due to the way it was originally built by the previous owner - the far end of the shower is recessed by a stud wall, so I would have to redesign the whole thing. It may come to that but for now, I've stripped out the existing silicone, cleaned & reapplied it. I did find some degraded spots, so hopefully it will tide it over until I get this year out of the way.

President Merkin

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4,297 posts

32 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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For anyone interested, things have moved on a bit. I've decided to rebuild, extending the tiling enough to place the profile channel against the tiles, so as to allow me to seal it correctly. The tiles are discontinued but I found a guy selling a bunch of unused new ones online which is a great result, meanng I only have to redo the one wall & not the whole thing. Happy with that.


g7jtk

1,782 posts

167 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Might be a bit late now but in my experience the installer didn’t apply silicone between the wall and tray before fitting the profile.

anonymous-user

67 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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President Merkin said:
For anyone interested, things have moved on a bit. I've decided to rebuild, extending the tiling enough to place the profile channel against the tiles, so as to allow me to seal it correctly. The tiles are discontinued but I found a guy selling a bunch of unused new ones online which is a great result, meanng I only have to redo the one wall & not the whole thing. Happy with that.

Good work
The right way
Would have been a life of pain fighting the problem due to earlier dodgy install