Evil Monobloc tap nut!!
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Gawd almighty they don't make life easy!
Swapping the tap on the kitchen sink, ceramic double bowl thing with very little access space underneath to the tap hole naturally. The tap we've got is this bugger, observe the evil nut:
After much swearing I've got it in place and the nut done up finger tight but there's no way I can get a big enough spanner up to it to fully tighten leaving me with a wobbly tap of course. Standard basin wrench thing is not big enough to grip, not that there's enough room up there anyway, I guess the nut is around 30mm A/F. I was thinking something along the lines of a metal tube with a hex end like old spark plug wrenchs would be ideal, so I was happy to find this sort of thing exists:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
But of course they're all too small only being designed for sensible taps
So is there anything out there that will do the job?
Cheers,
Rob
Swapping the tap on the kitchen sink, ceramic double bowl thing with very little access space underneath to the tap hole naturally. The tap we've got is this bugger, observe the evil nut:
After much swearing I've got it in place and the nut done up finger tight but there's no way I can get a big enough spanner up to it to fully tighten leaving me with a wobbly tap of course. Standard basin wrench thing is not big enough to grip, not that there's enough room up there anyway, I guess the nut is around 30mm A/F. I was thinking something along the lines of a metal tube with a hex end like old spark plug wrenchs would be ideal, so I was happy to find this sort of thing exists:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
But of course they're all too small only being designed for sensible taps
So is there anything out there that will do the job?
Cheers,
Rob
This is what you really want.
Edited to add....
I hope you've got a decent hot water pressure for that thing....
They aren't designed for vented systems, so you need a Combination Boiler or an Unvented cylinder of some sort.
Minimum 1 Bar, if I remember correctly.
Edited to add....
I hope you've got a decent hot water pressure for that thing....
They aren't designed for vented systems, so you need a Combination Boiler or an Unvented cylinder of some sort.
Minimum 1 Bar, if I remember correctly.
Edited by Ferg on Saturday 7th November 17:50
Got one of the adjustable basin wrenchs, doesn't open wide enough and has no room to move it about up there anyway
Found this fellow though:
http://www.toolbox.co.uk/silverline-tap-back-nut-4...
Silverline Tap Back Nut Spanner 27/32mm
Only downside is that I'd have to remove the damn tap again to check the actual nut dimensions. Also not sure if I've be able to get it over the fixed pipe tails.
I've thought about removing the sink (and hitting it with a sledge hammer!) not really an option as it's in a bloody annoying handmade kitchen and would require removing the dishwasher to access the grips under the drainer - despair!
Cheers,
Rob
Found this fellow though:
http://www.toolbox.co.uk/silverline-tap-back-nut-4...
Silverline Tap Back Nut Spanner 27/32mm
Only downside is that I'd have to remove the damn tap again to check the actual nut dimensions. Also not sure if I've be able to get it over the fixed pipe tails.
I've thought about removing the sink (and hitting it with a sledge hammer!) not really an option as it's in a bloody annoying handmade kitchen and would require removing the dishwasher to access the grips under the drainer - despair!
Cheers,
Rob
B19GRR said:
Got one of the adjustable basin wrenchs, doesn't open wide enough and has no room to move it about up there anyway
Is it a Monument? I've never failed to turn a tap nut under a sink with mine and I've done maybe 50-60 with those big nuts. Did you see my pressure warning. I had a customer fall foul of this with the bath version of that very tap only the other day....
Ferg said:
Is it a Monument? I've never failed to turn a tap nut under a sink with mine and I've done maybe 50-60 with those big nuts. Did you see my pressure warning. I had a customer fall foul of this with the bath version of that very tap only the other day....
Nope, it's a screwfix special. The monument one looks more compact at the business end, bit on the pricey side though!Water pressure is OK, got a similar tap in the utility so we should be OK as long as gravity doesn't decide to mess my life up as well
Cheers,
Rob
Dear God!
I thought I was on to a winner this morning, MachineMart stock the 27/32mm box spanner so off I went to Peteboghorror and returned victorious. 5 seconds under the sink though revealed something was up, so nut came of and the mofo is 34mm A/F, just unbelievable!! Whoever designed that tap needs a serious kicking!! 15 minutes later after a serious bit of filing to the end of the box spanner and the damn nut would fit. So on it goes and mucho swearing later the damn tap is on tight enough. So on go the tails and get connected the water pipes. Hot feed pisses water all over the place. Did I have any PTFE tape? Course not. Off to local hardware store to get some and unbelievably I have the foresight to by some rubber washers too. Good job as the PTFE did squat but luckily an extra washer did the job.
Respect to plumbers who have to deal with this shyte day in day out!!
Cheers,
Rob
I thought I was on to a winner this morning, MachineMart stock the 27/32mm box spanner so off I went to Peteboghorror and returned victorious. 5 seconds under the sink though revealed something was up, so nut came of and the mofo is 34mm A/F, just unbelievable!! Whoever designed that tap needs a serious kicking!! 15 minutes later after a serious bit of filing to the end of the box spanner and the damn nut would fit. So on it goes and mucho swearing later the damn tap is on tight enough. So on go the tails and get connected the water pipes. Hot feed pisses water all over the place. Did I have any PTFE tape? Course not. Off to local hardware store to get some and unbelievably I have the foresight to by some rubber washers too. Good job as the PTFE did squat but luckily an extra washer did the job.
Respect to plumbers who have to deal with this shyte day in day out!!
Cheers,
Rob
B19GRR said:
So on go the tails and get connected the water pipes. Hot feed pisses water all over the place.
The tails have rubber O-rings on them; for the four sinks I've plumbed in as a DIYer, all they needed was finger tight and a nip with spanner. This is done before the tap is fitted, and then the big nut goes over them from underneath.Edited by Simpo Two on Sunday 8th November 15:11
I coat washers (both sides) threads and every other mating surface with Fernox LSX when doing this stuff - it just works.
It's half the price in Scewfix that it is in B&Q.
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/23614/Plumbing/Plumb...
It's half the price in Scewfix that it is in B&Q.
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/23614/Plumbing/Plumb...
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