Bathroom heating?

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Original Poster:

518 posts

208 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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I need to sort out some form of heating for our bathroom in the near future and currently am unsure what to do.

We wanted a heated towel rail anyway, so my thought was to get a decent big one and use that as both the radiator and the towel rail. Question is, will having towels hanging off it stifle its ability to produce heat?

Or should I be looking at a small radiator and a seperate (electric) towel rail?

Simpo Two

88,603 posts

278 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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A towel will obviously insulate the towel-rail to some extent and stop all the heat getting into the room. Having said that, that's the option I chose for mine and it's fine - mind you my batheroom is only about 7x7', and double-glazed.

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Original Poster:

518 posts

208 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Here's part of our issue, single pane windows, with no scope for double glazing (listed property) So not very effective.

Bathroom is about 7 x 14.


Si 330

1,306 posts

222 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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We have a large bathroom and one big towel rail more than adequate.
Bought it from this company www.PlumbCallDirect.co.uk would recommend.

Emsman

7,023 posts

203 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Underfloor heating laid under ceramic tile

Very thin wire laid on the floor, easy to install, costs very little to run, is silent, and doesnt need to be on for long as ceramic holds the heat in for ages.

It also quickly dries up any spilt water.

Try a company called warmup.

Available from most places, but shop around and let me know- i have a mate who has a tiling business and will try to beat a price for you.


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Original Poster:

518 posts

208 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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My initial thought was a bigger towel rail, its only going to have 2, maximum 3 towels on it, so not exactly swamped...

Underfloor heating isn't really an option, ground floor bathroom (stupid old house), need access to 2 sewer covers that run under the bathroom floor, and tiled in slate flagstones (creative tiling around said covers).

The bathroom is an all round PITA unfortunately frown


Emsman

7,023 posts

203 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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How about the piped system that runs behind the skirting board? Keeps space to the maximum as its hidden, shouldnt need too much work to install?



Not sure of cost mind you.


fido

17,609 posts

268 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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-C- said:
Here's part of our issue, single pane windows, with no scope for double glazing (listed property) So not very effective.

Bathroom is about 7 x 14.
Can you not install sliding (aluminium) windows behind the pane windows? Or perhaps improve the existing windows. I have electic underfloor heating which is more efficient that i expected - as it seems to have the desired effect even if i set it at 20-25C.

Edited by fido on Tuesday 10th November 11:48

tobeee

1,436 posts

281 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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I bought one of these...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HEATED-Traditional-Chrome-To...
... which allows you to hang a towel without it smothering the radiator and stopping it heat the room. Ours projects about 30cm, but they do smaller ones.

FlossyThePig

4,131 posts

256 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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fido said:
-C- said:
Here's part of our issue, single pane windows, with no scope for double glazing (listed property) So not very effective.

Bathroom is about 7 x 14.
Can you not install sliding (aluminium) windows behind the pane windows? Or perhaps improve the existing windows.
What I am proposing to do is use magnetic strip (as used in fridge magnets) to hold secondary DG in place in my bathroom.

Our house is old but fortunately not listed. Hope your place only has the outside listed!

Ferg

15,242 posts

270 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Hanging towels on a towel rail only really slows the heat, it obviously doesn't destroy it... smile

But for the difference in price I'd just fit a bigger one.

As a matter of interest, I wouldn't fit electric underfloor heating unless I had no serious alternative, I've known too many people lose an element or two and then you're stuffed... Cold floor.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

261 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Large towel rail should be enough for a bathroom of that size.

Ricky_M

6,618 posts

232 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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How about a combined towel rail/radiator. They look like an old style rad with a chrome rail around it that heats up. So you can put your towel on the rail and still have a rad underneath.


jaybkay

488 posts

233 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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As long as you can get power to it an electric towel rail is the easiest thing to do. Just bear in mind a 100w one will use 2.4kW a day which is around 40p I think or £150 a year.

If you want it for towel drying then fit a time clock.


Ferg

15,242 posts

270 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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jaybkay said:
As long as you can get power to it an electric towel rail is the easiest thing to do. Just bear in mind a 100w one will use 2.4kW a day which is around 40p I think or £150 a year.

If you want it for towel drying then fit a time clock.
100w? To heat a bathroom?

eps

6,494 posts

282 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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-C- said:
Here's part of our issue, single pane windows, with no scope for double glazing (listed property) So not very effective.

Bathroom is about 7 x 14.
Not strictly true, but it can be a battle and entirely depends on the level of listing that your property has. See www.slimliteglass.co.uk. These items can be placed in window casements with narrower than usual (for standard double glazed panes) cross bars.. I (finally) got a local planning authority to agree to allow a client's listed building to fit double glazed units, but it did require 1:20 sized drawings and everything had to be detailed and noted.

ETA : of course they are not cheap and are the panes of glass only.. Making a window in addition to that costs more on top as well.. but it can be done.

Edited by eps on Thursday 12th November 11:49

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Original Poster:

518 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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Is this the stuff I saw not long ago on Grand Designs?

From memory its thin enough to be nigh on undetectable, but as you say is a normal double glazing panel?

Do you happen to know how much it costs? Obviously its something that would involve a long, protracted and ultimately pointless jumping through hoops exercise with the LA which I would like to avoid at all costs really, but if its a resonable cost, its something we could consider when replacing (other) windows.


eps

6,494 posts

282 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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-C- said:
Is this the stuff I saw not long ago on Grand Designs?

From memory its thin enough to be nigh on undetectable, but as you say is a normal double glazing panel?

Do you happen to know how much it costs? Obviously its something that would involve a long, protracted and ultimately pointless jumping through hoops exercise with the LA which I would like to avoid at all costs really, but if its a resonable cost, its something we could consider when replacing (other) windows.
I believe it has featured on Grand Designs.

It's not too tough to get the Conservation Officer to agree to it, but it does need some careful attention and a drawing which must be religiously stuck to.

The cost will depend on the pane size, but they can be around £35 per pane (400mm by 300mm sized pane with a 4mm cavity) plus carriage of about £40.. So quite high. The company are based in Scotland and I am trying to see if a company more local which deal with them on a regular basis would be able to supply them at a lower cost, or possibly lower delivery charge at the very least. VAT is on top of course..

If I were you I'd send them an email or their online form, with quantities and pane size(s) and the cavity you require and see what they come back with.. I gave them a call and got an estimate over the phone.