Heating - lost my thermostat

Heating - lost my thermostat

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riwiho

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3,800 posts

228 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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Ferg

15,242 posts

270 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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Are you talking about a room thermostat?
Have you got one fitted? st plumbers sometimes don't fit one.
If there is one it should be in the space that gets warm last, ie most air changes. We put them in the hall.

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

226 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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Is your boiler temp turned up to 80 degrees?

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

226 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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riwiho said:
Gingerbread Man said:
Is your boiler temp turned up to 80 degrees?
Boiler is working fine.
But is it putting out max temp to the central heating?

spikeyhead

18,640 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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If you've got a hot water tank, that should also have a thermostat on it, separate to the room thermostat.

Could be either causing issues.

maser_spyder

6,356 posts

195 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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Assuming you have heating and hot water cylinder running off the same circuit, is the bypass balancing valve set correctly?

This is the gate valve between the central heating circuit and cylinder heating circuit on the return (google it)



This is assuming you have a hot water tank and system boiler (not combi).

If the valve is fully open, hot water from the boiler will circulate around the water cylinder easily, but won't get 'pushed' around the radiators.

Closing the valve a little will push less water through the water cylinder, and more through the radiators.

There's obviously a 'happy' point where you're getting good flow through the rads (and hence hot rads), and good flow through the water cylinder, and hence hot water.

Closing it completely will stop the hot water heating up, opening it completely will stop the rads working fully.

After all that, I bet you've got a Combi boiler and this is all rubbish....

HiRich

3,337 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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To pick up with a similar question, is a room thermostat not essential?

The situation is the neighbours ate going away, and I want to keep the system on a frost-prevention setting. Couldn't find a room thermostat anywhere. It's a combi boiler (can't remember the brand) in a cupboard which has integrated:
  • Timer
  • Uncalibrated dials, which I presume are to adjust water temps for HW and CH
  • Pressure gauge and CH water temp gauge
No thermostats on the rads. They play with the CH water temp dial to adjust room, which just seems wrong.

Is it wrong or bad practice? All the other flats have a thermostat installed with the initial build, and I've run out of places to look.

GreenDog

2,261 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Don't have a room thermostat on my combi CH but there are thermostatic valves on the rads. Not sure I'f I'd be better off fitting one or if the current setup is OK.

Ferg

15,242 posts

270 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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A boiler without a Room Thermostat is simply WRONG. It is the sign of a CHEAP job by a heating engineer who simply wasn't interested in doing a proper job.

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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For those without room stats. It's easy enough to put a wireless room stat in, which would allow it to be positioned nearly anywhere and without the need for running a wire from the boiler to the stat. A small box wires into your boiler as you would a wired stat, but the box is RF and communicates to the wireless room stat.

This might be an option for some who fancy coming into the modern day world wink

My wireless Honeywell room stat cost ~£50.

gtr-gaz

5,190 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Ferg said:
A boiler without a Room Thermostat is simply WRONG. It is the sign of a CHEAP job by a heating engineer who simply wasn't interested in doing a proper job.
Hi Ferg. I bow to your wisdom bow

Surely though, with all singing and dancing modern boilers these days, plus TRV's, why would you need a room stat?



btw, I'm a pipe fitter and commercial plumber who deals primarily with steam. If you want to fit out a dry cleaners, I'm your man smile

Edited by gtr-gaz on Wednesday 2nd December 21:03

Ferg

15,242 posts

270 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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A room thremostat is simply a more direct way of shutting down the boiler. Otherwise you are heating the primaries up and using the temperature differential between flow and return to operate the boiler stat.

HiRich

3,337 posts

275 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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Thanks for the answers - I was sure it was wrong, and all the other flats have one. Landlord (and friend) has replied that he thinks there is one but can't remember where, so I guess I'll have to work around every wall hunting for it. If not, add it to the list of jobs. Siting is a doddle as it can go on the side of the boiler cabinet, which is good for both visibility and giving an accurate temperature.