Tiling a floor - under or up to the skirting board?
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The kitchens of Crossflow Hall desperately require a reworking of the floor, as the crappy lino installed when the place was built (ten years ago now) is just that - very, very crappy.
The actual tiling doesn't faze me at all, got all the right tools, done similar before, except being a new build house the skirting boards are as good as integral to the walls where the Polish fkwits who conned Taylor Woodrow in to thinking they could build houses have used bloody sealant type stuff and glued the feckers on. Last time I tried to get the skirting board off it resulted in a full re-boarding of the room in question.
So, when doing the kitchen, although I'd like to remove the skirting, tile up to the wall then refit the skirting, is there any issue with simply cutting the tiles and butt them up against the skirting board as is?
The actual tiling doesn't faze me at all, got all the right tools, done similar before, except being a new build house the skirting boards are as good as integral to the walls where the Polish fkwits who conned Taylor Woodrow in to thinking they could build houses have used bloody sealant type stuff and glued the feckers on. Last time I tried to get the skirting board off it resulted in a full re-boarding of the room in question.
So, when doing the kitchen, although I'd like to remove the skirting, tile up to the wall then refit the skirting, is there any issue with simply cutting the tiles and butt them up against the skirting board as is?
Your boards will more than likely be mdf, tacked on with a squeeze of gripfill for good measure followed by a bead of caulk.
Do the decent thing and pop them off. I can't be doing with a grout line next to skirting. It's nearly as bad as using beading to cover the expansion gap over laminate flooring.
Take them off, clean them up, re-fit and make good any minor plaster damage.
If you place a board against the plaster to pivot your bar against, they should pop off with very little damage.
Do the decent thing and pop them off. I can't be doing with a grout line next to skirting. It's nearly as bad as using beading to cover the expansion gap over laminate flooring.
Take them off, clean them up, re-fit and make good any minor plaster damage.
If you place a board against the plaster to pivot your bar against, they should pop off with very little damage.
Another alternative would be to use tiles as a skirting board.
Done this a few times with limestone and slate and looks really neat.
Also, when you come up against a door frame or achitrave, plut a tile on the floor next to it and run your saw horizontally on top of the tile. Tile fits neatly under the frame/architrave. Neat finish, no difficult cuts.
Done this a few times with limestone and slate and looks really neat.
Also, when you come up against a door frame or achitrave, plut a tile on the floor next to it and run your saw horizontally on top of the tile. Tile fits neatly under the frame/architrave. Neat finish, no difficult cuts.
Carefully run a sharp stanly blade along the top of the skirting to split the caulk (filler) prior to popping skirting off. Also take care to ease the skirting off slowly to ensure the paper on the front of the plasterboard doesn't rip and pull up the wall, if you see this happening slice it with the stanly level with top of skirting or slightly below if poss.
Also try and ascertain where the first stud (timber upright) is behind the plaster and go a bit easier here as the skirting may be nail gunned at this point and are more prone to snapping. They will ease out though.
Hope this makes sense (all based on assumption it's stud partitions/timber kit const as it is in Scotland)
Cheers
Also try and ascertain where the first stud (timber upright) is behind the plaster and go a bit easier here as the skirting may be nail gunned at this point and are more prone to snapping. They will ease out though.
Hope this makes sense (all based on assumption it's stud partitions/timber kit const as it is in Scotland)
Cheers
Beg, borrow, hire or steal a Fein Multimaster, cut the bottom of the skirting board off to the required depth then slide the tile under the skirting board. Looks very neat & takes no time at all once you get used to it. Very handy for trimming the bottom off doors without removing them as well.
Not used the link below, but should give you a good idea of what's available.
http://www.tool-shop.co.uk/Fein+MultiMaster.htm
Not used the link below, but should give you a good idea of what's available.
http://www.tool-shop.co.uk/Fein+MultiMaster.htm
northwest monkey said:
Beg, borrow, hire or steal a Fein Multimaster, cut the bottom of the skirting board off to the required depth then slide the tile under the skirting board. Looks very neat & takes no time at all once you get used to it. Very handy for trimming the bottom off doors without removing them as well.
Not used the link below, but should give you a good idea of what's available.
http://www.tool-shop.co.uk/Fein+MultiMaster.htm
what he said - our floor guy used a tool to undercut the door frames (casements) in exactly the same way.Not used the link below, but should give you a good idea of what's available.
http://www.tool-shop.co.uk/Fein+MultiMaster.htm
Under every time.
Although it will take slightly longer on balance, the finish is infinitely better, and there is a time saving to be had as you don't have to be so precise with the tile cutting - you've effectively got a tolerance of about +/-5mm*, rather than +/- 0.5mm if your edges were on display
(* with a bit of a margin, and assuming a skirting board thickness of 14mm)
Although it will take slightly longer on balance, the finish is infinitely better, and there is a time saving to be had as you don't have to be so precise with the tile cutting - you've effectively got a tolerance of about +/-5mm*, rather than +/- 0.5mm if your edges were on display
(* with a bit of a margin, and assuming a skirting board thickness of 14mm)
northwest monkey said:
Beg, borrow, hire or steal a Fein Multimaster, cut the bottom of the skirting board off to the required depth then slide the tile under the skirting board. Looks very neat & takes no time at all once you get used to it. Very handy for trimming the bottom off doors without removing them as well.
Not used the link below, but should give you a good idea of what's available.
http://www.tool-shop.co.uk/Fein+MultiMaster.htm
If you do go this route get the cheaper blades from Amazon they come in at about £3 each compared to the rip off prices Fein charge.Not used the link below, but should give you a good idea of what's available.
http://www.tool-shop.co.uk/Fein+MultiMaster.htm
B17NNS said:
Another alternative would be to use tiles as a skirting board.
Done this a few times with limestone and slate and looks really neat.
Also, when you come up against a door frame or achitrave, plut a tile on the floor next to it and run your saw horizontally on top of the tile. Tile fits neatly under the frame/architrave. Neat finish, no difficult cuts.
This...IMHO it really finishes the job off. I did this in my conservatory, hall, kitchen and downstairs loo. Just makes it look so much better and you don't have to worry about swelling up wood (or MDF) skirting when the good lady is cleaning the floor. Done this a few times with limestone and slate and looks really neat.
Also, when you come up against a door frame or achitrave, plut a tile on the floor next to it and run your saw horizontally on top of the tile. Tile fits neatly under the frame/architrave. Neat finish, no difficult cuts.
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