Bowed external stone wall

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gobuddygo

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Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Step daughter has put an offer in on a small stone built Victorian house, the outside side wall is bowed, I would think about 15 inches out of true at the worst point.

A structural surveyor is coming to have a look on Friday. Just wondering what the best and worse scenarios could be.

gobuddygo

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Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Just an update on this - yes i know its been years - when the structural surveyor came at the time he recommended that wall ties were added spanning outer and inner wall and straps added tying the outer wall to the joists, building society happy with this and the work was done and sale proceeded.

Company that did the job gave a 10 year guarantee on their work, the outer wall has now moved further about an inch you can tell this by the gap around the bathroom window on the bowed wall, its moved away from the internal wall, no cracking of plaster so its not the internal wall.

Step daughter has had the original structural surveyor around today and he now recommends completely rebuilding the wall.

Just wondering what the view is on how she proceeds with this as she is looking to sell soon.

Cheers
Frank.

gobuddygo

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Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Just confirmed with her it's a Structural Engineer who apparently works for the company who did the work, may need to get more details and she cant find the guarantee.

It wont sell as it is several viewers have mentioned it and have never been seen since.

gobuddygo

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Wednesday 16th December 2015
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15 inches, its a back to back thick stone walls will post pics tomorrow thanks for the replies

gobuddygo

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Thursday 17th December 2015
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TA14 said:
Rather than the normal meaning of back to back I think he means that it's a rubble fill stone wall and the external leaf has parted from the inner leaf which has not moved; this would account for the lack of damage inside.


That's exactly what's happened and by back to back i mean like this each side of the red line is a separate house, common around Leeds.




gobuddygo

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Thursday 17th December 2015
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very difficult to get a photo that shows the full extent of the bow.

Wall in Question





Internal pic of how much the window has moved outwards, this was all newly plastered before she moved in.


gobuddygo

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Thursday 17th December 2015
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TA14 said:
That's not a bad 'photo though. How tall is the opening part of that window? 18"? A 15" bow would be further out than the window...

Given that the wall is still moving I wouldn't be happy with anything less than a rebuilt wall. I'd also want to survey it first (like contours turned through 90 degrees) and determine why it started moving.
Remember the window has moved out with the wall, and I agree I think it needs a full rebuild will be contacting the original company but can see lots of clauses being quoted, i will out of interest let you know how we get on but step daughter would just rather pay for the rebuild.

gobuddygo

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V6Pushfit said:
OP what was the recommendation in your report?
The latest report (by the same SE) says it needs rebuilding, I might try to get the company who did the original work and provided a guarantee to contribute to the cost, going in all guns blazing probably wont work.

gobuddygo

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Friday 18th December 2015
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bobtail4x4 said:
I had someone telling me they would "push" the wall back with a jcb,

I asked if I could watch with a camera for you been framed.
Much as i would love that to be a solution and it would be great to see it wont be happening.

Going to wait until New Year before doing anything further as i doubt i will get any progress over the next few weeks.

Thanks for the responses and have a HAPPY CHRISTMAS.