Pro and cons of thumb turn eurocylinder locks
Discussion
We have 2 x 1/2 glazed multi pane back doors, one kitchen and one boot/utility room.
Pros
Can open with key from outside if locked from the inside.
Can get out in hurry
Less fannying around with keys so more likely to lock
Cons
Thief can smash small double glazed glass panel and let themselves in.
Anything I've missed? (looking to upgrade the locks)
Pros
Can open with key from outside if locked from the inside.
Can get out in hurry
Less fannying around with keys so more likely to lock
Cons
Thief can smash small double glazed glass panel and let themselves in.
Anything I've missed? (looking to upgrade the locks)
irememberyou said:
PositronicRay said:
We have 2 x 1/2 glazed multi pane back doors, one kitchen and one boot/utility room.
Pros
Can open with key from outside if locked from the inside.
Can get out in hurry
Less fannying around with keys so more likely to lock
Cons
Thief can smash small double glazed glass panel and let themselves in.
Anything I've missed? (looking to upgrade the locks)
It's quite hard to smash a double-glazed window.Pros
Can open with key from outside if locked from the inside.
Can get out in hurry
Less fannying around with keys so more likely to lock
Cons
Thief can smash small double glazed glass panel and let themselves in.
Anything I've missed? (looking to upgrade the locks)
But, if someone is prepared to try and smash a dbl-glazed window to get in, then they are not 'subtle' burglars. Even if the back door couldn't be unlocked via a key, they would smash another window they could climb through.
In other words, if you're prepared to smash a window, you'll smash any window to get in - not just because it's got a convenient lock on the inside.
But if that's the only likely entry point, and the window can't be climbed through when broken, then you might be better off with a key lock
A neighbour was broken into 6 months ago, round the back and lobbed something through the kitchen window.
Thinking about it if broken windows are to be used as a main point of entry is there any point to anti bump locks?
Edited by PositronicRay on Saturday 24th March 16:19
rufusgti said:
227bhp said:
Evanivitch said:
227bhp said:
The first thing burglars do on entry is secure an exit incase they get disturbed, if they can't they won't hang around as long.
Well if they're already inside...It’s not as easy or quick to run off with a 40” telly through the window you just climbed through.
JimbobVFR said:
For emergencies we've for a spare key tucked under the edge of the carpet in front of the door. Just a habit because my dad used to do the same thing when I was a kid.
We've also got Cisa Astral cylinders, specifically because they still work if a key is still in the lock inside.
Cisa Astral maybe the best of both worlds We've also got Cisa Astral cylinders, specifically because they still work if a key is still in the lock inside.
Sgt Bilko said:
With an easily obtained piece of kit, thumb turns can be silently opened in around 3-4 seconds. There are some higher priced ones have overcome the problem that exists on the lower models but it’s the same issue that was discovered when “bump” keys started to float around.
I've an idea how these bump keys work, no idea re the thumb turn thing? How does that work? dickymint said:
Oh the joys of living in a nice area without having to lock ones doors.
This would be ideal. However in the UK, for someone less than 45mins from a town, even a 'nice' one you're at risk.(I made up the 45min thing but you get my drift)
Edited by PositronicRay on Sunday 25th March 08:35
Evanivitch said:
Sgt Bilko said:
I haven’t done a comprehensive study in the matter but I’m aware lock turn manufacturers are aware and adapting designs. Trouble is there’s a lottttt of stock out there that needs shifting I bet so, well, you know....
I've emailed Yale on the matter.Sgt Bilko said:
PositronicRay said:
Easy or what!Evanivitch said:
Ashtray83 said:
I don’t think you can bypass a Yale cylinder or a union
I have had success with era and cheep un branded ones.
1.5mm piano wire and a pin vice, I once opened 9 flat doors in 15 mins (someone squirted super glue in the key way) all had security rated handles with cheep thumb turn cylinders
Hence why the Yale System is a 2+1 star system at least. Completely pointless if you have 1 or the other.I have had success with era and cheep un branded ones.
1.5mm piano wire and a pin vice, I once opened 9 flat doors in 15 mins (someone squirted super glue in the key way) all had security rated handles with cheep thumb turn cylinders
P.s. I'm not a Yale rep. I just spent a bit of money with them recently.
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