Blocked toilet and leaking water

[ScotHill]

Our toilet occasionally blocks, up to the level of the pan - it drains in maybe 15-20 minutes or a quick plunge gets it down, but if the former I’ve noticed water leaking around the base of the toilet, not a lot but enough to need a few bunches of toilet paper to mop it up.

Is that a symptom of the blocked toilet, e.g. water leaking out of some kind of air release higher up in the drainage system somewhere, or could we have an actual leak in one of the internal pipes within the toilet?

Standard toilet with a back-cistern above the level of the pan.

[ScotHill]

How easy is the pan-coupler to get to, is it down through the cistern or deeper into the toilet than that? Assuming it’s not part of the waste pipe?

[ScotHill]

The first few times it happened I spent probably half an hour rodding and must have got it a good 10-15m down (however long those blue Screwfix springy ones are) but a couple of plunges and the air bubbles up and it drained away, son not really sure what the problem is.

Hill Jr flushed some pants down the toilet but that was five years ago and this only happens a couple of times a year, maybe when too much paper/giant turds go down.

[ScotHill]

I’m sure I remember seeing an ad for expanding gel that fills up and travels through the pipe clearing it out - does anything like that exist or did I dream it? Maybe Fybogel for toilets.

[ScotHill]

bennno said:

From what you are describing it’s a dirty water leak, so I’d get a plumber in before it rots the floor etc.

There are two holes from the pan, the soil pipe hole, or the inlet from the cistern. If the pan is very full it could potentially be leaking from either.

But the leak would only be active if/when the pipe was backed up though? Will get someone out to look at it.