someone has killed the neighbours cat

[Who me ?]

And then lets look at what caused the problem. The old bloke had ,possibly a nice garden , with flowerbeds, and some seedbeds. Mrs cat owner let her cats out, with no thought ,or any litter trays. So the old blokes garden gets used as cat toilet. He's fed up with having his seed beds dug up by cats, or having his garden used as a cat crapping ground. So he sets out to stop it. I've had this problem with several cat owning neighbours- I've installed a cat fence in my garden .I've also shut my gates,and let my terrier out when any cat shows interest in my garden . My question is why we should have to put up with cat owners that let their "pets" crap any where ,with no repercussions.

[aizvara]

Who me said:

And then lets look at what caused the problem. The old bloke had ,possibly a nice garden , with flowerbeds, and some seedbeds. Mrs cat owner let her cats out, with no thought ,or any litter trays. So the old blokes garden gets used as cat toilet. He's fed up with having his seed beds dug up by cats, or having his garden used as a cat crapping ground. So he sets out to stop it. I've had this problem with several cat owning neighbours- I've installed a cat fence in my garden .I've also shut my gates,and let my terrier out when any cat shows interest in my garden . My question is why we should have to put up with cat owners that let their "pets" crap any where ,with no repercussions.

Blimey! You know all this from what the OP wrote?

crackthatoff said:

could the r.s.p.c.a do a post-mortem to see if this is the case.

Our eight year old cat died suddenly with no obvious external symptoms over a year ago; we took him to the vets for them to do a post-mortem. It cost basically the same as a normal check-up. I'm sure a more thorough variant could be undertaken. Anyway, the vet said that poisoning is normally fairly obvious.

Proving who did it would be far harder.

[otolith]

Because, Who Me, that is the law, of long standing. That's how British society treats cat ownership. If you don't like it, lobby your mp.

[Jasandjules]

otolith said:

If I knew - really knew for sure - that someone had killed one of mine, and I couldn't get them prosecuted, I'm afraid I would find a way to get even.

You and me both. Even if I could get them prosecuted as no punishment the law can dish out would be sufficient for me.

The last person who threatened my cat got informed in no uncertain terms what would happen if I found my cat run over (he said he'd run it over with his motorbike).

[MrFlat6]

[quote=Who me ?]And then lets look at what caused the problem. The old bloke had ,possibly a nice garden , with flowerbeds, and some seedbeds. Mrs cat owner let her cats out, with no thought ,or any litter trays. So the old blokes garden gets used as cat toilet. He's fed up with having his seed beds dug up by cats, or having his garden used as a cat crapping ground. So he sets out to stop it. I've had this problem with several cat owning neighbours- I've installed a cat fence in my garden .I've also shut my gates,and let my terrier out when any cat shows interest in my garden . My question is why we should have to put up with cat owners that let their "pets" crap any where ,with no repercussions.
[/quote]

Not sure we can infer this in this case, but in principle

+1

If your cat sts in my garden - I'm comin' after it

fking disgrace.

[Jasandjules]

MrFlat6 said:

Not sure we can infer this in this case, but in principle

+1

If your cat sts in my garden - I'm comin' after it

fking disgrace.

So you not only condone but advocate criminal actions? Well done.

I hope you don't own pets.

[R300will]

MrFlat6 said:

Not sure we can infer this in this case, but in principle

+1

If your cat sts in my garden - I'm comin' after it

fking disgrace.

Yeah cat owners don't really have much say in where their cat roams of craps, they aren't easy to train like dogs. HTH

Edited by R300will on Sunday 29th April 13:35

[MrFlat6]

Jasandjules said:

MrFlat6 said:

Not sure we can infer this in this case, but in principle

+1

If your cat sts in my garden - I'm comin' after it

fking disgrace.

So you not only condone but advocate criminal actions? Well done.

I hope you don't own pets.

I didn't mention anything criminal - and is there no criminal behaviour on the part of the owner? (Serious question)

And, no, I don't have any pets, and if I did, I would take responsibility for their actions.

[Butter Face]

MrFlat6 said:

Jasandjules said:

MrFlat6 said:

Not sure we can infer this in this case, but in principle

+1

If your cat sts in my garden - I'm comin' after it

fking disgrace.

So you not only condone but advocate criminal actions? Well done.

I hope you don't own pets.

I didn't mention anything criminal - and is there no criminal behaviour on the part of the owner? (Serious question)

And, no, I don't have any pets, and if I did, I would take responsibility for their actions.

You're an idiot.

You can't tell a cat where and where not to do a st.

[therealpigdog]

Butter Face said:

You're an idiot.

You can't tell a cat where and where not to do a st.

Yes you can.

[Jasandjules]

MrFlat6 said:

I didn't mention anything criminal - and is there no criminal behaviour on the part of the owner? (Serious question)

And, no, I don't have any pets, and if I did, I would take responsibility for their actions.

I'm coming after the cat - criminal damage. Any injury caused to the cat could be criminal too. Advocating others to do so can be incitement for the previous offences. Then we have civil matters which could also be actionable......

Criminal behaviour on the part of the cat owner? No. The law is clear on the limitations of cats which can be markedly contrasted with dogs and the law.

[Butter Face]

therealpigdog said:

Butter Face said:

You're an idiot.

You can't tell a cat where and where not to do a st.

Yes you can.

Please enlighten me.

[Devil2575]

[quote=Who me ?]And then lets look at what caused the problem. The old bloke had ,possibly a nice garden , with flowerbeds, and some seedbeds. Mrs cat owner let her cats out, with no thought ,or any litter trays. So the old blokes garden gets used as cat toilet. He's fed up with having his seed beds dug up by cats, or having his garden used as a cat crapping ground. So he sets out to stop it. I've had this problem with several cat owning neighbours- I've installed a cat fence in my garden .I've also shut my gates,and let my terrier out when any cat shows interest in my garden . My question is why we should have to put up with cat owners that let their "pets" crap any where ,with no repercussions.
[/quote]

I have sympathy with this.

I am a cat owner and my cat cannot set foot out of the house without being accosted by one of the my neighbours cats. One side has 4 and the other has 2.
On top of this they crap in both my flower beds and on my lawn. So much so that it's not safe for me to let my 3 year old son out in the garden for fear he discovers some. I spend half my time removing it myself and it really isn't pleasant when i'm putting flowers/bulbs in.
They also get into our wheely bin when it's full as the lid is slightly up and make a real mess. Last week I made the mistake of putting a bag of rubish out the back door about 10 minutes before putting it into the bin. The cats must be waiting as it was ripped oupen almost immediatley.

We simply terrorise the cats by either shouting every time we see them or throwing cold water from a glass/hose. They bolt on sight of us now. I've considered other options but never got round to them.

I wouldn't advocate actually hurting them though. A hose within easy reach is a fabulous thing.

[therealpigdog]

Butter Face said:

therealpigdog said:

Butter Face said:

You're an idiot.

You can't tell a cat where and where not to do a st.

Yes you can.

Please enlighten me.

;-) ... but the cat doesn't always listen!

But seriously, most cats are litter trained, and thus have been taught to st in a litter tray, or if there isn't a litter tray, then to st outside (anywhere).Our cats no longer st in our flower beds due to a training regime that involved a supersoaker fired out of a window. Another cat in our neighbourhood was similarly 'trained' not to come into our house and spray everywhere using the same method (adding lemon juice to the water makes it even more effective).

Cats are intelligent animals and can be trained in the same way that most animals can be trained, they are just not as receptive as dogs and so are generally considered to be untrainable because of the work involved - but if you consider the fact that many people have 'trained' their cats not to steal food from plates/jump up at the table/walk on worktops etc, then you can see that they are far from untrainable.

[otolith]

Train a dog not to do something - it will stop doing it.

Train a cat not to do something - it will stop doing it when you are looking.

[R300will]

otolith said:

Train a dog not to do something - it will stop doing it.

Train a cat not to do something - it will stop doing it when you are looking.

^^^ BRILLIANT

[Butter Face]

R300will said:

otolith said:

Train a dog not to do something - it will stop doing it.

Train a cat not to do something - it will stop doing it when you are looking.

^^^ BRILLIANT

And true.

Cat's, as everyone knows, are pure evil. They hide it well when they're all purring and bundles of soft fluff, but step on their tail and you'll know about it.

[therealpigdog]

otolith said:

Train a dog not to do something - it will stop doing it.

Train a cat not to do something - it will stop doing it when you are looking.

or when it thinks you're watching.

Reminds me of this, the Eddie Izzard skit on cats and dogs

[boobles]

Just go around there & kick the st out of them! Problem solved!! Why do we the Brits pussyfoot around? Just beat the living daylights out of the person you suspect doing this.

[Munter]

boobles said:

Just go around there & kick the st out of them! Problem solved!! Why do we the Brits pussyfoot around? Just beat the living daylights out of the person you suspect doing this.

Because the law is not on the side of justice or what is right. The law is on the side of the law. And the law says no.