Neighbour dies in dog attack ! wtf
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Superficial said:
By irony, I take it you mean the ability to read.
'Police are investigating whether a woman, aged 71, found dead at a house in south London was mauled by her daughter's dogs.'
Mr Hamilton said the animals, believed by the police to include one black/blue blood American bulldog, an American bulldog and a small mongrel, were "lovely dogs".
"It wasn't a cry for help or anything and I put it down to children being boisterous," he said.
"It wasn't a vicious sounding bark . I didn't recognise it as such."
I can take criticism sweetheart, what I can't take is assumptions, finger pointing and so far unproven accusations being made.![wink](/inc/images/wink.gif)
No, I mean the ability to read (to sense) humour or deliberate exaggeration in others' writing. Try it. But do please take the proverbial calming tablet. Oh, and 'sweetheart'... do you use that phrase a lot in real life?'Police are investigating whether a woman, aged 71, found dead at a house in south London was mauled by her daughter's dogs.'
Mr Hamilton said the animals, believed by the police to include one black/blue blood American bulldog, an American bulldog and a small mongrel, were "lovely dogs".
"It wasn't a cry for help or anything and I put it down to children being boisterous," he said.
"It wasn't a vicious sounding bark . I didn't recognise it as such."
I can take criticism sweetheart, what I can't take is assumptions, finger pointing and so far unproven accusations being made.
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Lost_BMW said:
I wonder if it could have been self-inflicted, a set up; suicide by dog? Maybe to clear the way for an insurance settlement. Wonder if she knew of any terminal health issues?
Or murder maybe. Did someone stand to benefit from her demise? Maybe sent her in with laced meat designed to drive half-starved canines into a frenzy? I'm waiting for a family member arrest. Or Martians, or Freemasons - definitley no proof in that story that the doggies are guilty.
Please, can you stop trolling ACG&S?Or murder maybe. Did someone stand to benefit from her demise? Maybe sent her in with laced meat designed to drive half-starved canines into a frenzy? I'm waiting for a family member arrest. Or Martians, or Freemasons - definitley no proof in that story that the doggies are guilty.
ali_kat said:
Lost_BMW said:
I wonder if it could have been self-inflicted, a set up; suicide by dog? Maybe to clear the way for an insurance settlement. Wonder if she knew of any terminal health issues?
Or murder maybe. Did someone stand to benefit from her demise? Maybe sent her in with laced meat designed to drive half-starved canines into a frenzy? I'm waiting for a family member arrest. Or Martians, or Freemasons - definitley no proof in that story that the doggies are guilty.
Please, can you stop trolling ACG&S?Or murder maybe. Did someone stand to benefit from her demise? Maybe sent her in with laced meat designed to drive half-starved canines into a frenzy? I'm waiting for a family member arrest. Or Martians, or Freemasons - definitley no proof in that story that the doggies are guilty.
I actually quite like dogs really - feel sorry for many given the scum who own them, but don't always trust them and don't think certain types in certain quantities should be allowed to be 'looked after' by certain people.
Lost_BMW said:
No, I mean the ability to read (to sense) humour or deliberate exaggeration in others' writing. Try it. But do please take the proverbial calming tablet. Oh, and 'sweetheart'... do you use that phrase a lot in real life?
Why are you assuming my post was written for your personal attention? You're way off if you think my post was a direct reply to you, but if you want me to have a look over it then I will...Lost_BMW said:
Trouble is even responsible owners can have pets that can suddenly 'go off on one' and some of these breeds are lethal when crazed/riled. What's the point of bringing into a family an animal with little rational thought and able to fight ferocioulsy on 'instinct' if it ever feels threatened? Working dogs under proper control, fine but this pet mania infecting our culture is mad - creatures clealy not designed for sitting around 23 hours a day in small cramped urban homes banged in willy nilly often surrounded by noisy, irritating touchy feely children with no concept of how close to playing with fire they get. I shudder when I see some of these interactions and am amazed there aren't more maulings.
As you say though, irresponsible owners are the big problem - often vermin who shouldn't be allowed a goldfish let alone a dog, or a child, with status symbol 'hard' dogs that they have bugger all care for or control of. Kill them all. Owners again, of course. Oh, and don't get me started on benefits scroungers with a £100 a week food habit hound...
Yes, your post is just bursting at the seems with humour, isn't it? As you say though, irresponsible owners are the big problem - often vermin who shouldn't be allowed a goldfish let alone a dog, or a child, with status symbol 'hard' dogs that they have bugger all care for or control of. Kill them all. Owners again, of course. Oh, and don't get me started on benefits scroungers with a £100 a week food habit hound...
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Yes, I use sweetheart every day, although admittedly it is usually reserved for the dogs.
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Lost_BMW said:
OK. You asked nicely. Pointless fun over - boredom is a bad role model...
I actually quite like dogs really - feel sorry for many given the scum who own them, but don't always trust them and don't think certain types in certain quantities should be allowed to be 'looked after' by certain people.
Thank you I actually quite like dogs really - feel sorry for many given the scum who own them, but don't always trust them and don't think certain types in certain quantities should be allowed to be 'looked after' by certain people.
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I agree
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ali_kat said:
Lost_BMW said:
OK. You asked nicely. Pointless fun over - boredom is a bad role model...
I actually quite like dogs really - feel sorry for many given the scum who own them, but don't always trust them and don't think certain types in certain quantities should be allowed to be 'looked after' by certain people.
Thank you I actually quite like dogs really - feel sorry for many given the scum who own them, but don't always trust them and don't think certain types in certain quantities should be allowed to be 'looked after' by certain people.
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I agree
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ali_kat said:
Hmmmm, hard to make head or tail from that report.
She possibly had a heart attack when the excited dogs jumped up her as she fed them, that's assuming they weren't trained... The screaming could have been her before it, or her Daughter witnessing
Conflicting opinions on the dogs, and a load of crap too - can tell they are vicious because they pulled their leads![rolleyes](/inc/images/rolleyes.gif)
You have never seen these particular dogs have you, so to be as flippant as your remark suggests about them being vicious because they pulled their leads is comical,She possibly had a heart attack when the excited dogs jumped up her as she fed them, that's assuming they weren't trained... The screaming could have been her before it, or her Daughter witnessing
Conflicting opinions on the dogs, and a load of crap too - can tell they are vicious because they pulled their leads
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I live in the same road as these dogs & i walk mine in the same park, when these dogs are over there, you walk in the other direction, trust me everyone does, The fact that these particular dogs have attacked someone is no surprise to myself or anyone in the street that i have spoken too. they were a disaster just waiting to happen. I for one am pleased that i will not feel intimidated walking my dog by these dogs again, Just wished the circumstances were not a tragic as this
AdiT said:
Black can man said:
...One of the Mastiff's pictured charged at my dog a few days ago, My dog just stood it's ground as the owners were screaming for their dog to retutn...
So after this huge, vicious, out of control, killing machine charged... what happened next?Black can man said:
It mauled his owners mother to death
I realise you have a direct insight, but nobody knows exactly what happened yet. I can think of three different scenarios that are both plausible and realistic, and only one of them is yours.I'm quite sure that the truth will come out in due course, and you may well yet be correct, but at the moment it is all speculation.
Rollcage said:
Black can man said:
It mauled his owners mother to death
I realise you have a direct insight, but nobody knows exactly what happened yet. I can think of three different scenarios that are both plausible and realistic, and only one of them is yours.I'm quite sure that the truth will come out in due course, and you may well yet be correct, but at the moment it is all speculation.
Black can man said:
ali_kat said:
Hmmmm, hard to make head or tail from that report.
She possibly had a heart attack when the excited dogs jumped up her as she fed them, that's assuming they weren't trained... The screaming could have been her before it, or her Daughter witnessing
Conflicting opinions on the dogs, and a load of crap too - can tell they are vicious because they pulled their leads![rolleyes](/inc/images/rolleyes.gif)
You have never seen these particular dogs have you, so to be as flippant as your remark suggests about them being vicious because they pulled their leads is comical,She possibly had a heart attack when the excited dogs jumped up her as she fed them, that's assuming they weren't trained... The screaming could have been her before it, or her Daughter witnessing
Conflicting opinions on the dogs, and a load of crap too - can tell they are vicious because they pulled their leads
![rolleyes](/inc/images/rolleyes.gif)
I live in the same road as these dogs & i walk mine in the same park, when these dogs are over there, you walk in the other direction, trust me everyone does, The fact that these particular dogs have attacked someone is no surprise to myself or anyone in the street that i have spoken too. they were a disaster just waiting to happen. I for one am pleased that i will not feel intimidated walking my dog by these dogs again, Just wished the circumstances were not a tragic as this
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I find it exceedingly comical - as do others - any dog pulling its lead does NOT mean it is vicious
Just like the owners lack of care & training does not mean they have mauled a woman to death
We know nothing, the dogs could have been removed for any number of reasons, including ill treatment
Being on the scene does not make you an expert, it's just supposition like the DM
Update:
Gloria Knowles 'bled to death' after dog attack
A woman died of shock caused by blood loss as a result of being bitten by her daughter's dogs, a post-mortem examination has revealed.
Gloria Knowles, 71, was found dead at a house in Morden, south-west London, on Tuesday evening.
Five dogs, including two Bordeaux French mastiffs, were seized and police cordoned off two adjoining houses.
Police said the dogs were being kept in kennels, and would not be destroyed as they are not a banned breed.
A Metropolitan Police spokesman said no arrests had been made adding: "A post-mortem gave cause of death as shock caused by haemorrhage as a result of an attack by dogs.
"Police inquiries continue to establish the full circumstances of the incident."
Heard screams
Neighbour Kevin Hamilton said he had heard screams at about 18:15 GMT.
He said he was "absolutely devastated" he had not been able to help his neighbour of 20 years.
Mr Hamilton said the animals, which the police say included one black/blue blood American bulldog, an American bulldog and a small mongrel, were "lovely dogs".
The 65-year-old said Mrs Knowles had been feeding the dogs in the back garden when he had heard screams and dogs barking.
"It wasn't a cry for help or anything and I put it down to children being boisterous," he said.
"It wasn't a vicious sounding bark. I didn't recognise it as such."
He added the screams he heard "may well have been the dogs attacking her".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-201908...
Gloria Knowles 'bled to death' after dog attack
A woman died of shock caused by blood loss as a result of being bitten by her daughter's dogs, a post-mortem examination has revealed.
Gloria Knowles, 71, was found dead at a house in Morden, south-west London, on Tuesday evening.
Five dogs, including two Bordeaux French mastiffs, were seized and police cordoned off two adjoining houses.
Police said the dogs were being kept in kennels, and would not be destroyed as they are not a banned breed.
A Metropolitan Police spokesman said no arrests had been made adding: "A post-mortem gave cause of death as shock caused by haemorrhage as a result of an attack by dogs.
"Police inquiries continue to establish the full circumstances of the incident."
Heard screams
Neighbour Kevin Hamilton said he had heard screams at about 18:15 GMT.
He said he was "absolutely devastated" he had not been able to help his neighbour of 20 years.
Mr Hamilton said the animals, which the police say included one black/blue blood American bulldog, an American bulldog and a small mongrel, were "lovely dogs".
The 65-year-old said Mrs Knowles had been feeding the dogs in the back garden when he had heard screams and dogs barking.
"It wasn't a cry for help or anything and I put it down to children being boisterous," he said.
"It wasn't a vicious sounding bark. I didn't recognise it as such."
He added the screams he heard "may well have been the dogs attacking her".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-201908...
Rollcage said:
Black can man said:
It mauled his owners mother to death
I realise you have a direct insight, but nobody knows exactly what happened yet. I can think of three different scenarios that are both plausible and realistic, and only one of them is yours.I'm quite sure that the truth will come out in due course, and you may well yet be correct, but at the moment it is all speculation.
Not surprised these dogs were a f
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Black can man said:
Seems i was right,
Not surprised these dogs were a f
king menace
Said I'd stop trolling so don't intend this to be more of the same and know it will probably still pee dog owners off, but "won't be destroyed as they are not banned breeds" despite being known killers. Where will they end up and what might they do next. Will they be allowed back into the family or separated? If to new hoes will owners be told of their history?Not surprised these dogs were a f
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Frankly I would be horrified to find that even one of them let alone two or more had been rehoused next to me.
Many years ago a colleague stopped working dodgey sicknote then sacked,several months later he was stabbed by his girlfriend and bled to death.The story as printed in the local paper was his Rottwiellers(10!)stopped paramedics getting to him and the intial wound was fairly minor!Girlfriend reported to pleeding guilty to manslaughter.His nick name at work was dagger Dan.
Black can man said:
Seems i was right,
Not surprised these dogs were a f
king menace
in what way were they a menace??Not surprised these dogs were a f
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I ask because shortly after we bought our 2 mastiffs a neigbour was heard to say that they were vicious and shouldnt be allowed... this was when they were still small pups playfighting on the front lawn (they were tethered)... some peoples attitudes are ridiculous towards larger dogs, ignorant in some cases..
http://www.wimbledonguardian.co.uk/news/10026229.D...
Just an update from the local paper for anyone who may be interested,
Find it hard to believe the daughter is chosen not to destroy the dogs
Just an update from the local paper for anyone who may be interested,
Find it hard to believe the daughter is chosen not to destroy the dogs
Black can man said:
http://www.wimbledonguardian.co.uk/news/10026229.D...
Just an update from the local paper for anyone who may be interested,
Find it hard to believe the daughter is chosen not to destroy the dogs
According to the bbc story the dogs we're put down in April of this year?Just an update from the local paper for anyone who may be interested,
Find it hard to believe the daughter is chosen not to destroy the dogs
Civpilot said:
Black can man said:
http://www.wimbledonguardian.co.uk/news/10026229.D...
Just an update from the local paper for anyone who may be interested,
Find it hard to believe the daughter is chosen not to destroy the dogs
According to the bbc story the dogs we're put down in April of this year?Just an update from the local paper for anyone who may be interested,
Find it hard to believe the daughter is chosen not to destroy the dogs
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